Talking to son about masturbation

[TNHarley]

Something I NEVER understood.
How can forgiveness be given week after week after week.. At some point, you would think God would smarten up and be like "yea, I think im getting used.. **** this guy"

Because Jesus took upon himself in propitiation every bad thing I've ever done at the cross.

That's why they call it "Amazing Grace".

So I can do whatever I want, as long as I ask Jesus to forgive me before I die?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Bible doesn't explicitly mention masturbation anywhere. Usual souce of this prohibition is the sin of Onan. Unfortunately, that wasn't masturbation. Onan was having sex with his wife and withdrawing before climax so as not to get her pregnant. That's not masturbation.

And the Jewish arguement about not wasting one's seed (semen) while actually a lot clsoer to the act of masturbation falls apart with the use of the word "waste." Masturbation doesn't waste one's seed but actually strengthens it making sperm 'better swimmers.' Then there's the laundry list of health and psychological benefits to the deed. If anything's it's exercising your reproductive system. Makes you healthier, saner (less horny and motivated by lust,) and better at the act of sex teaching you how to recognize impending climaxes so you can last longer and get your partner off first.

If a religion teaches something with objective health benefits which does all good things and no bad things is a sin, then that religion isn't a religion but a cult.

Considering plenty of cults use and have used the Bible only method, your last point is fatally undermined. The Bible is not and never has been the sole rule of faith. Jesus promised the Spirit of Truth to guide his Church into all truth. He commissioned his apostles with his own authority instructing them to teach the nations, to baptize, to forgive sins, to bind, to loose, and to receive the Holy Spirit directly. Nothing Jesus did even hints that they be bound by a book.......which wouldn't even be made official until 4 centuries later. Even that event, where the Church of God decided what is and isn't the Bible is certain proof of where the real authority is both then and today.

I don't care if it's in the Bible or not. Christ's Church says masturbation is a sin. Therefore it is.

 

[Meathead]

Bible doesn't explicitly mention masturbation anywhere. Usual souce of this prohibition is the sin of Onan. Unfortunately, that wasn't masturbation. Onan was having sex with his wife and withdrawing before climax so as not to get her pregnant. That's not masturbation.

And the Jewish arguement about not wasting one's seed (semen) while actually a lot clsoer to the act of masturbation falls apart with the use of the word "waste." Masturbation doesn't waste one's seed but actually strengthens it making sperm 'better swimmers.' Then there's the laundry list of health and psychological benefits to the deed. If anything's it's exercising your reproductive system. Makes you healthier, saner (less horny and motivated by lust,) and better at the act of sex teaching you how to recognize impending climaxes so you can last longer and get your partner off first.

If a religion teaches something with objective health benefits which does all good things and no bad things is a sin, then that religion isn't a religion but a cult.

And that (the biblical waste bit) is spawned from the sociological conditions of the time, when populating was thought to be sorely needed. You were expected to be married and procreating while still a teenager. It's all about numbers.

What the fundies forget is dem books ain't been updated in a loooong long time.

It is akin to having a Constitution without an amendment process. God never intended his Church to be governed by a book.

I'm just thrilled my son feels comfortable talking to me about it.

You should be happy that your son feels he can speak about something so intimate with you, and yet I wonder why he would feel the need to.i suppose a Catholic upbringing would compel a child to do so, and yet I believe a child left to his own devices would grow without guilt for things that are as natural as rain.

I cannot positively say that is so because every child is not the same, but I think that letting children grow without guilt for being what they are is best.

 

[Pogo]

Bible doesn't explicitly mention masturbation anywhere. Usual souce of this prohibition is the sin of Onan. Unfortunately, that wasn't masturbation. Onan was having sex with his wife and withdrawing before climax so as not to get her pregnant. That's not masturbation.

And the Jewish arguement about not wasting one's seed (semen) while actually a lot clsoer to the act of masturbation falls apart with the use of the word "waste." Masturbation doesn't waste one's seed but actually strengthens it making sperm 'better swimmers.' Then there's the laundry list of health and psychological benefits to the deed. If anything's it's exercising your reproductive system. Makes you healthier, saner (less horny and motivated by lust,) and better at the act of sex teaching you how to recognize impending climaxes so you can last longer and get your partner off first.

If a religion teaches something with objective health benefits which does all good things and no bad things is a sin, then that religion isn't a religion but a cult.

Considering plenty of cults use and have used the Bible only method, your last point is fatally undermined. The Bible is not and never has been the sole rule of faith. Jesus promised the Spirit of Truth to guide his Church into all truth. He commissioned his apostles with his own authority instructing them to teach the nations, to baptize, to forgive sins, to bind, to loose, and to receive the Holy Spirit directly. Nothing Jesus did even hints that they be bound by a book.......which wouldn't even be made official until 4 centuries later. Even that event, where the Church of God decided what is and isn't the Bible is certain proof of where the real authority is both then and today.

I don't care if it's in the Bible or not. Christ's Church says masturbation is a sin. Therefore it is.

I came up in the same church and I don't remember being told that, ever...

Did you then tell you boy it's a sin? If so, are you prepared with an answer if he asks why?

 

[NoNukes]

Just be sure to tell him that his dick will fall off and he'll blind if he continues.

I just did it until I needed glasses.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Bible doesn't explicitly mention masturbation anywhere. Usual souce of this prohibition is the sin of Onan. Unfortunately, that wasn't masturbation. Onan was having sex with his wife and withdrawing before climax so as not to get her pregnant. That's not masturbation.

And the Jewish arguement about not wasting one's seed (semen) while actually a lot clsoer to the act of masturbation falls apart with the use of the word "waste." Masturbation doesn't waste one's seed but actually strengthens it making sperm 'better swimmers.' Then there's the laundry list of health and psychological benefits to the deed. If anything's it's exercising your reproductive system. Makes you healthier, saner (less horny and motivated by lust,) and better at the act of sex teaching you how to recognize impending climaxes so you can last longer and get your partner off first.

If a religion teaches something with objective health benefits which does all good things and no bad things is a sin, then that religion isn't a religion but a cult.

Considering plenty of cults use and have used the Bible only method, your last point is fatally undermined. The Bible is not and never has been the sole rule of faith. Jesus promised the Spirit of Truth to guide his Church into all truth. He commissioned his apostles with his own authority instructing them to teach the nations, to baptize, to forgive sins, to bind, to loose, and to receive the Holy Spirit directly. Nothing Jesus did even hints that they be bound by a book.......which wouldn't even be made official until 4 centuries later. Even that event, where the Church of God decided what is and isn't the Bible is certain proof of where the real authority is both then and today.

I don't care if it's in the Bible or not. Christ's Church says masturbation is a sin. Therefore it is.

Maybe that Catholicism's problem, they usurp God's word with their own and their adherrents don't care.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Something I NEVER understood.
How can forgiveness be given week after week after week.. At some point, you would think God would smarten up and be like "yea, I think im getting used.. **** this guy"

Because Jesus took upon himself in propitiation every bad thing I've ever done at the cross.

That's why they call it "Amazing Grace".

So I can do whatever I want, as long as I ask Jesus to forgive me before I die?

Yes.

The folly is in assuming you have years more to live, or even weeks, or hours. Death can take you without any warning.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Bible doesn't explicitly mention masturbation anywhere. Usual souce of this prohibition is the sin of Onan. Unfortunately, that wasn't masturbation. Onan was having sex with his wife and withdrawing before climax so as not to get her pregnant. That's not masturbation.

And the Jewish arguement about not wasting one's seed (semen) while actually a lot clsoer to the act of masturbation falls apart with the use of the word "waste." Masturbation doesn't waste one's seed but actually strengthens it making sperm 'better swimmers.' Then there's the laundry list of health and psychological benefits to the deed. If anything's it's exercising your reproductive system. Makes you healthier, saner (less horny and motivated by lust,) and better at the act of sex teaching you how to recognize impending climaxes so you can last longer and get your partner off first.

If a religion teaches something with objective health benefits which does all good things and no bad things is a sin, then that religion isn't a religion but a cult.

Considering plenty of cults use and have used the Bible only method, your last point is fatally undermined. The Bible is not and never has been the sole rule of faith. Jesus promised the Spirit of Truth to guide his Church into all truth. He commissioned his apostles with his own authority instructing them to teach the nations, to baptize, to forgive sins, to bind, to loose, and to receive the Holy Spirit directly. Nothing Jesus did even hints that they be bound by a book.......which wouldn't even be made official until 4 centuries later. Even that event, where the Church of God decided what is and isn't the Bible is certain proof of where the real authority is both then and today.

I don't care if it's in the Bible or not. Christ's Church says masturbation is a sin. Therefore it is.

Maybe that Catholicism's problem, they usurp God's word with their own and their adherrents don't care.

That's where you err. The Catholic Church is God's font of revelation. There is no other.

 

[TNHarley]

Something I NEVER understood.
How can forgiveness be given week after week after week.. At some point, you would think God would smarten up and be like "yea, I think im getting used.. **** this guy"

Because Jesus took upon himself in propitiation every bad thing I've ever done at the cross.

That's why they call it "Amazing Grace".

So I can do whatever I want, as long as I ask Jesus to forgive me before I die?

Yes.

The folly is in assuming you have years more to live, or even weeks, or hours. Death can take you without any warning.

I knew there had to be a party pooper in there somewhere..
At least I know I can worship satan 6 days a week and still get into heaven.

 

[koshergrl]

Wow that's great. Instead of having a serious discussion with your son about God, faith, self control and sex, you told him he isn't expected to exert control over himself and to mock God. Great parenting.

You're a woman. I can't emphasize this enough:

""""""""""""""YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!"""""""""""""""

GTFO!

I have raised three boys by myself. Psst...boys are better with no father figure at all if dad is a dipshit.

 

[Indeependent]

The issue (pardon the unintentional pun) is that the spiritual manifestation of the person is linked to the physical manifestation of the person. A potential life force, both physical and spiritual is contained in each sperm cell. Deliberately nullifying that life force is undesirable to God. The question is what is "deliberate"? I don't know the answer to how freaked out one must be by obsessive sexual thoughts in order to allow masturbation to bring one back to a level of functional normalcy.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Wow that's great. Instead of having a serious discussion with your son about God, faith, self control and sex, you told him he isn't expected to exert control over himself and to mock God. Great parenting.

You're a woman. I can't emphasize this enough:

""""""""""""""YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!"""""""""""""""

GTFO!

I have raised three boys by myself. Psst...boys are better with no father figure at all if dad is a dipshit.

Sorry you married one.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Something I NEVER understood.
How can forgiveness be given week after week after week.. At some point, you would think God would smarten up and be like "yea, I think im getting used.. **** this guy"

Because Jesus took upon himself in propitiation every bad thing I've ever done at the cross.

That's why they call it "Amazing Grace".

So I can do whatever I want, as long as I ask Jesus to forgive me before I die?

Yes.

The folly is in assuming you have years more to live, or even weeks, or hours. Death can take you without any warning.

I knew there had to be a party pooper in there somewhere..
At least I know I can worship satan 6 days a week and still get into heaven.

Good luck with that plan.

 

[koshergrl]

Wow that's great. Instead of having a serious discussion with your son about God, faith, self control and sex, you told him he isn't expected to exert control over himself and to mock God. Great parenting.

You're a woman. I can't emphasize this enough:

""""""""""""""YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!"""""""""""""""

GTFO!

I have raised three boys by myself. Psst...boys are better with no father figure at all if dad is a dipshit.

Sorry you married one.

Oh well, the boys have turned out pretty good anyway ;D

 

[TNHarley]

Something I NEVER understood.
How can forgiveness be given week after week after week.. At some point, you would think God would smarten up and be like "yea, I think im getting used.. **** this guy"

Because Jesus took upon himself in propitiation every bad thing I've ever done at the cross.

That's why they call it "Amazing Grace".

So I can do whatever I want, as long as I ask Jesus to forgive me before I die?

Yes.

The folly is in assuming you have years more to live, or even weeks, or hours. Death can take you without any warning.

I knew there had to be a party pooper in there somewhere..
At least I know I can worship satan 6 days a week and still get into heaven.

Good luck with that plan.

Hell, you just told me I would be fine. So will I or wont I?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Because Jesus took upon himself in propitiation every bad thing I've ever done at the cross.

That's why they call it "Amazing Grace".

So I can do whatever I want, as long as I ask Jesus to forgive me before I die?

Yes.

The folly is in assuming you have years more to live, or even weeks, or hours. Death can take you without any warning.

I knew there had to be a party pooper in there somewhere..
At least I know I can worship satan 6 days a week and still get into heaven.

Good luck with that plan.

Hell, you just told me I would be fine. So will I or wont I?

You're taking chances with eternal life.

Sounds pretty stupid to me.

 

[Pogo]

Just be sure to tell him that his dick will fall off and he'll blind if he continues.

I just did it until I needed glasses.

Yanno..... sight is overrated.

 

[TNHarley]

So I can do whatever I want, as long as I ask Jesus to forgive me before I die?

Yes.

The folly is in assuming you have years more to live, or even weeks, or hours. Death can take you without any warning.

I knew there had to be a party pooper in there somewhere..
At least I know I can worship satan 6 days a week and still get into heaven.

Good luck with that plan.

Hell, you just told me I would be fine. So will I or wont I?

You're taking chances with eternal life.

Sounds pretty stupid to me.

So I better stick to masturbation then?

 

[Indeependent]

Yes.

The folly is in assuming you have years more to live, or even weeks, or hours. Death can take you without any warning.

I knew there had to be a party pooper in there somewhere..
At least I know I can worship satan 6 days a week and still get into heaven.

Good luck with that plan.

Hell, you just told me I would be fine. So will I or wont I?

You're taking chances with eternal life.

Sounds pretty stupid to me.

So I better stick to masturbation then?

Wait a day for me to buy stock in Kleenex.

 

[TNHarley]

I knew there had to be a party pooper in there somewhere..
At least I know I can worship satan 6 days a week and still get into heaven.

Good luck with that plan.

Hell, you just told me I would be fine. So will I or wont I?

You're taking chances with eternal life.

Sounds pretty stupid to me.

So I better stick to masturbation then?

Wait a day for me to buy stock in Kleenex.

It wouldn't be a bad idea.. I plan on doing it a lot. When I start getting hard up(pardon the pun ) for money I will just go rob a bank or a church. Then, I will ask for forgiveness and masturbate some more. Shit man, might as well just steal all the Kleenex too!