Nosmo King
Gold Member
3 2 1.we did not get the intelligence you think we got. Reading the report rather than reacting in some Sadistic zeal would change the picture for you. Do you have the willingness and the ability to really read the report?Mastertful bit of deflection and dissimulation.Keep your sadism and we'll do just fine.Your stupid hyperbole aside, so how is sleep deprivation torture? You're not inflicting pain on anyone. Same with stress positions and a lot of what was detailed there. Uncomfortable? Yes/ But thats not inflicting pain.
How do you propose we get information out of hardened terrorists? Tickle them? Subject them to reading your posts? (OK thats cruel and unusual).
Let's first understand that the United States signed a treaty banning torture. Let us also understand that the United States prosecuted Japanese war criminals for the torture they committed. One specific use of torture named in the indictment of Japanese war criminals was water boarding! Imagine that! We prosecuted war criminals for water boarding.
As for how to get reliable, actionable intelligence? Let's ignore the Sadists that Cheney hired and then kept the American people in the dark about. Sadists don't get intelligence, they mete out revenge.
Let's instead listen to the experts who have interrogated suspects and have garnered real, actionable intelligence. There are methods that do not involve physical pain. But Conservatives want their pound of flesh more than real intelligence.
Do you think sitting and asking nicely is going to produce actionable intelligence with committed terrorists?
Of course they do.
They are all handwringers and are more worred about what others think of them than getting intelligence to fight those bastards.
God forbid that we waterboard some dirtbag to get intelligence. All three of the "victim" of waterboarding survived and are probably still at that vacationland known as Gitmo unless, of course, if Barry let them go home to fight again.
We also know that torture is a crime. The United States signed the treaty. Are you in favor of breaking the law?
We know that Japanese war criminals were charged with torture of American POWs. Are you in favor of committing the same war crimes as our enemies?
We realize that Al Qeada and ISIS are ruthless, cruel and act with impunity. Do you favor abandoning American ideals and ethics and adopting the ethics and morals of savages? .
I'd waterboard everyone of those bastards. Better yet I'd shoot em all and take no prisoners then you handwringers wouldn't have to worry about your so called torture.
That's when all your credibility and your standing as an American just got flushed down the crapper by your own hand.