Sure Obama Loves America. His America.

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Thank you for reciting the Faux News Outrage list...

Because we don't hear nearly enough of that from you guys.

The Reader should recognize that the reality from which the above Leftist is desperate to deflect, through the implication that because the news of those respective violations of the public trust by the person the Left elected as the Chief Executive, didn't really happen and if it did (which it all did...) that it isn't a violation of the public trust, thus is not important, because Fox News... (By FAR the most watched, thus the preferred, therefore the most trusted News Service in the United States) reported it.

This is known as 'Relativism'... which is simply the rationalization through which evil is manifested.

 

[bodecea]

sums him up fairly nicely

SNIP:
Sure Obama Loves America. His America.

February 20, 2015 By David Harsanyi
“I know this is a horrible thing to say,” Rudy Giuliani reportedly told a group of conservative moneymen in New York this week, “but I do not believe that the president loves America.” This is, evidentially, the most disturbing example of otheringthe media has ever encountered.

The perception that Obama dislikes America is nothing new in conservative circles. Radio talk hosts have asked me numerous times – often, in creative ways – if I agree that the president “hates” America. Since none of us has the ability to bore into the souls of fellow humans and unlock all their hidden motivations, the question is distracting and irrelevant. And as political rhetoric goes it’s needlessly hyperbolic.

But really, is it that outrageous or surprising that so many Americans doubt whether the president “loves” the traditional role the United States has played on the world stage, or whether he “loves” the capitalism that’s defined us for the past 50 or 60 years, or whether he “loves” the Constitutional protections we have for religious freedoms, guns, or free speech?

Now, I’m sure Obama loves America. Mostly, though, he seems to love the America he wishes existed rather than the one that does. There’s a lot of populist filler in his patriotism, but in the end it’s always the same: American excellence means a government that acts as the citizenry’s moral center, the engine of its prosperity, and the arbiter of all fairness. This is the president that gives Fourth of July speeches focusing on ”economic patriotism” – a progressive concoction that isn’t distinctly American in any context. In fact, the statist philosophy behind that bogus appeal is by definition pretty “un-American.”


ALL of it here:
Obama Loves America. His America.

Our America, darling.

 

[JoeB131]

The Reader should recognize that the reality from which the above Leftist is desperate to deflect, through the implication that because the news of those respective violations of the public trust by the person the Left elected as the Chief Executive, didn't really happen and if it did (which it all did...) that it isn't a violation of the public trust, thus is not important, because Fox News... (By FAR the most watched, thus the preferred, therefore the most trusted News Service in the United States) reported it.

This is known as 'Relativism'... which is simply the rationalization through which evil is manifested.

Guy, Evil is going to war with a country on false pretenses because your Vice President's company had a shitload of contracts and made billions.

Not because you made a comment about "keeping your insurance' which 90% of us actually did.

Fox News has a great business plan. Take sorry-ass racist assholes who hate htis president and constantly feed your "outrage" by using not quite up to the line attacks that almost sound valid.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Obama is not the one who said things like,

"I like to be able to fire people"
"I'm not concerned about the very poor"
"47% of Americans pay no income tax, so our message doesn't connect."

The Obama administration asked Rick Wagoner, the chairman and CEO of General Motors, to step down and he agreed, a White House official said.

As well they should have. If you MISMANAGE your company so badly that the government has to come in and bail you out, the first thing you do is get rid of the guy who got you there.

You honestly think our federal government is in a good position to dictate how a business ought to manage their finances, and say that with a straight face? If I were to have the responsibility to manage the finances of a business on a "someday I'll get around to paying it LATER", I'd put the business in bankruptcy if not fired first by the owner. Those of you who think the government can do it better really don't have a clue on how much waste is involved, as well as efficiency and government simply doesn't exist in the same sentence if you ever had the exoerience of working for one.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

The Reader should recognize that the reality from which the above Leftist is desperate to deflect, through the implication that because the news of those respective violations of the public trust by the person the Left elected as the Chief Executive, didn't really happen and if it did (which it all did...) that it isn't a violation of the public trust, thus is not important, because Fox News... (By FAR the most watched, thus the preferred, therefore the most trusted News Service in the United States) reported it.

This is known as 'Relativism'... which is simply the rationalization through which evil is manifested.

Guy, Evil is going to war with a country on false pretenses because your Vice President's company had a shitload of contracts and made billions.

Not because you made a comment about "keeping your insurance' which 90% of us actually did.

Fox News has a great business plan. Take sorry-ass racist assholes who hate htis president and constantly feed your "outrage" by using not quite up to the line attacks that almost sound valid.

If you are going to cite everyone that has a difference of opinion, and an objection to president's policy as simply being racist .... then you need to quit being so insecure with yourself and the positions you hold. If you simply can't defend your point of view, it's not because the other person is racist.

 

[JoeB131]

You honestly think our federal government is in a good position to dictate how a business ought to manage their finances, and say that with a straight face? If I were to have the responsibility to manage the finances of a business on a "someday I'll get around to paying it LATER", I'd put the business in bankruptcy if not fired first by the owner. Those of you who think the government can do it better really don't have a clue on how much waste is involved, as well as efficiency and government simply doesn't exist in the same sentence if you ever had the exoerience of working for one.

I think the government did a good job of helping GM get it's house in order, and getting rid of Wagoneer was probably a good move.

Beyond that, the rest of your post is the typical Libertarian Crap. I'm still waiting for you guys to move to Somalia.

 

[JoeB131]

If you are going to cite everyone that has a difference of opinion, and an objection to president's policy as simply being racist .... then you need to quit being so insecure with yourself and the positions you hold. If you simply can't defend your point of view, it's not because the other person is racist.

Guy, the thing is, when you are against a policy you were previously for when the black guy does it, then the only thing I can conclude is racism.

RomneyCare- A model for the whole country.
ObamaCare - Eeek, it's a socialist plot with death panels and we are all going to die and why do you hate freedom.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

You honestly think our federal government is in a good position to dictate how a business ought to manage their finances, and say that with a straight face? If I were to have the responsibility to manage the finances of a business on a "someday I'll get around to paying it LATER", I'd put the business in bankruptcy if not fired first by the owner. Those of you who think the government can do it better really don't have a clue on how much waste is involved, as well as efficiency and government simply doesn't exist in the same sentence if you ever had the exoerience of working for one.

I think the government did a good job of helping GM get it's house in order, and getting rid of Wagoneer was probably a good move.

Beyond that, the rest of your post is the typical Libertarian Crap. I'm still waiting for you guys to move to Somalia.

You call it all crap because you probably believe that having an out of control spending problem and accumulating debt is a good thing. That is a big change from those liberals who try to exalt how it was President Clinton, and how well HE did at desiring to tackle our budget. Then again you can thank him for the fact he was willing to work with a Republican Congress to try and accomplish that common goal. Look at the 1995 shut down with then Speaker Gingrich and how that President was willing to bend his position to accommodate them, he was willing to work with both sides. In comparison, this President would rather spend his time out in public working hard at making pep rally speeches to creating a bigger division in this country. Did we see a lot of executive order temper tantrums back then when President Clinton wasn't happy or didn't get his way? That could explain why Obama lost his speaker and then his senate majority leader, the voters in this country certainly wasn't willing to back President Obama, his positions that he was hoping to achieve, by voting more democrats in office. You have to be willing to prove to the American people you have the ability to solve problems and LEAD, in order to secure and maintain a strong political base.

 

[JoeB131]

You call it all crap because you probably believe that having an out of control spending problem and accumulating debt is a good thing. That is a big change from those liberals who try to exalt how it was President Clinton, and how well HE did at desiring to tackle our budget. Then again you can thank him for the fact he was willing to work with a Republican Congress to try and accomplish that common goal. Look at the 1995 shut down with then Speaker Gingrich and how that President was willing to bend his position to accommodate them, he was willing to work with both sides.

Actually, the main thing that Clinton did that balanced the budget was making the rich finally pay their fair share.

Gingrich shutting down the government over how much they were going to grow Medicare (which is what it was all about) backfired on the GOP Badly. Dole still blames it for his 1996 loss, which is why he came out against Gingrich in 2012.

That could explain why Obama lost his speaker and then his senate majority leader, the voters in this country certainly wasn't willing to back President Obama, his positions that he was hoping to achieve, by voting more democrats in office. You have to be willing to prove to the American people you have the ability to solve problems and LEAD, in order to secure and maintain a strong political base.

No, the only thing that proves is that it's kind of fucked up to have these off year elections most people don't participate in nullifying the results of elections most people DID participate in.

The thing about the midterms is that only about six senate seats and 30 or so house seats were actually in play. I blame the democrats for not fielding stronger contenders, to be sure. I give the Republicans credit for not fielding nuts who put adjectives in front of the word "Rape". but I don't think that 2014 was a victory for anything but apathy.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

If you are going to cite everyone that has a difference of opinion, and an objection to president's policy as simply being racist .... then you need to quit being so insecure with yourself and the positions you hold. If you simply can't defend your point of view, it's not because the other person is racist.

Guy, the thing is, when you are against a policy you were previously for when the black guy does it, then the only thing I can conclude is racism.

RomneyCare- A model for the whole country.
ObamaCare - Eeek, it's a socialist plot with death panels and we are all going to die and why do you hate freedom.

Many Americans didn't support RomneyCare, which is why Romney didn't focus his entire campaign on it. The voters simply didn't see Romney, in the presidential election, as a viable alternative. If you simply don't like government Health Care and how it's being handled in that state, why would you vote for him? Regardless if the cost of health care seems expensive before, and now everyone has coverage, the simple fact remains .... SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR THOSE WHO ANT AFFORD IT. It's a shell game, from insurance policy holders to now it's the hard working taxpayers that must foot the bill. There is no such thing as free care, that is a myth and the biggest selling lie to the American people. Did those who previously couldn't afford it suddenly wake up with money in their pockets to pay for it on their own. What has really changed? Someone is still paying for someone who can't, and now everyone has a Cadillac plan that's more than they need, through a government that can't even manage their own budget issues without the threat of spending cuts. All the while, liberals simply would rather go on rolling that dice and allow our debt to grow, over solving our own national debt issue. Must be great having a country like China to bail you out and own your financial issue. At what point does the debt become too costly for a country to afford? Do you have a figure amount that you can give me?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Obama is not the one who said things like,

"I like to be able to fire people"
"I'm not concerned about the very poor" - Rom
"47% of Americans pay no income tax, so our message doesn't connect."

America is great and does not warrant fundamental change.

 

[JoeB131]

Many Americans didn't support RomneyCare, which is why Romney didn't focus his entire campaign on it.

Romney DID focus his 2008 campaign on it. In 2012, he didn't want to be caught having a LDS-approved drink with it. Because it was exactly like Obama Care and the GOP Base was spitting mad a Negro Did It.

he voters simply didn't see Romney, in the presidential election, as a viable alternative. If you simply don't like government Health Care and how it's being handled in that state, why would you vote for him? Regardless if the cost of health care seems expensive before, and now everyone has coverage, the simple fact remains .... SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR THOSE WHO ANT AFFORD IT.

I keep trying to get this through to you IDIOTS. But most of you are TOO STUPID to see it.

The problem is not a LACK OF MONEY. The United States spends more on health care per capita than any other country in the world. There is more than enough money being spent and then some. But unlike other industrialized countries that spend 8-11% of their GDP on health care, WE spend 18%, most it going into things like 9 figure CEO salaries, payouts to investors in insurance companies, unnecessary testing because the doctors get kickbacks from the testing labs, Big Pharma insisting on not selling in bulk, and so on.

If ObamaCare has a problem it builds on that current system instead of going to a single payer that will only pay for what is needed at cost.

 

[JoeB131]

America is great and does not warrant fundamental change.

Actually, it does bcause what we are doing isn't sustainable.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Whatever we've been doing or not doing over the last 8 years has resulted in erosion of the Middle Class. From that perspective, you are spot on.... Erosion of The Middle Class is not sustainable. Time to take a critical eye as to what has worked and what is not working.

 

[JoeB131]

Whatever we've been doing or not doing over the last 8 years has resulted in erosion of the Middle Class. From that perspective, you are spot on.... Erosion of The Middle Class is not sustainable. Time to take a critical eye as to what has worked and what is not working.

but whose policies are eroding the middle class? Obama trying to make sure that the rich pay their fair share and everyone gets real health coverage.

Or the GOP making sure no Dressage Horse is left behind?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Whatever we've been doing or not doing over the last 8 years has resulted in erosion of the Middle Class. From that perspective, you are spot on.... Erosion of The Middle Class is not sustainable. Time to take a critical eye as to what has worked and what is not working.

but whose policies are eroding the middle class? Obama trying to make sure that the rich pay their fair share and everyone gets real health coverage.

Or the GOP making sure no Dressage Horse is left behind?

Healthcare for everyone. Everyone was promised their costs would go down by $2,500. Go ask The Middle Class how that is working out.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

America is great and does not warrant fundamental change.

Actually, it does bcause what we are doing isn't sustainable.

That's true, Socialism is not sustainable. No form of Left-think is... .
But that is only because it is a perversion of human reasoning. Such is common to children and fools.

America however, is thoroughly sustainable, as America... is nature and as such rests upon the infinite, immutable principles (laws) of nature.

obama is not changing America... he is separating the Citizens of the United States from the immutable principles of nature that define America.

 

[Freewill]

Whatever we've been doing or not doing over the last 8 years has resulted in erosion of the Middle Class. From that perspective, you are spot on.... Erosion of The Middle Class is not sustainable. Time to take a critical eye as to what has worked and what is not working.

but whose policies are eroding the middle class? Obama trying to make sure that the rich pay their fair share and everyone gets real health coverage.

Or the GOP making sure no Dressage Horse is left behind?

I keep asking, what is their fair share? I am not rich but I do realize that if trickle down does not work tickle up poverty sure does.

 

[Freewill]

America is great and does not warrant fundamental change.

Actually, it does bcause what we are doing isn't sustainable.

Correct, what we have been doing for the last 6 years has been a disaster and that isn't even counting the 2 years prior of democrats controlling Congress. Glad you can agree that Obama has been bad and the relentless march the country is taking towards liberalism isn't working. What you say isn't working is what has already been changed, THAT ain't working but you apparently want to do even more of the same thing, you know what they call that.

 

[Kondor3]

Who knows?

If we work really, really hard, to prove ourselves to Her Imperial Majesty, and adopt all of King Obumble's ideas...

Perhaps Queen Michelle will deign to be proud of America for a second time in her life...

A consummation devoutly to be wished... shudder, shake, quiver, orgasm...