Supreme Court upholds Obamacare subsidies

[Freewill]

This whole thing just blew up in Republicans faces again

The whole issue could have been quickly resolved by Congress

End any ambiguity by adding the words "and Federal" to the four words in question. Case closed, move on

But Republican hatred of Obama is so strong they are willing to withold federal subsidies to 6 million Americans just to embarass Obama

Glad to see the court slap them down

Jake, explain the Republicans hate for Obama and the ass kissing he has received since their take over. How exactly can you see everything so backwards?

 

[Katzndogz]

6 - 3 decision ... this is huge.

Even Roberts jumped in

Looks like same sex marriage will see the same 6-3 majority

I expect that to be unanimous.

 

[bendog]

6-3 decision.

It wasn't even that close.

It shouldn't even have been THAT close. Alito Scalia and Thomas voted on politics not law.

 

[toxicmedia]

From the decision:

So basically the Chief Justice stretched as much as he could to save the law, even though he knows they screwed up on the language.

Yep, they read the law, didn't like what it said so they said it said something else and that was what was meant. In other words they made law. The read the mind of those who wrote the law. Regardless of which side you are on one would think what is happening is bad for the country. But I think those who just love shoving crap down on people will think this is the best thing that ever happened, they win and we all lose.

It isn't going to happen but imagine if the SCOTUS rules 5-4 against gay marriage. What do you think those crowing today will say about the SCOTUS?

All due respect...that just sounds like the third stage of grieving...bargaining.

If a Republican beats Hillary, and congress stays red after 2016, you'll not once hear righties, possibly you as well, say the phrase "shoving crap down throats".

If it turn out that way, the GOP will be doing what our government does regardless of who's in charge, they will spend all the money we send them, and some more on top of that...only then, on things righties want, as opposed to things lefties want.

The concept of having things "crammed down somebody's throat"...is simply a demonization of what happens to the losers of an election, after the winners implement what they ran on.

Obama ran on Obamacare, and was reelected.

Right now I'm listening to Fox News, and they're all a mixed bag of the 2nd and 4th stages of grieving, anger, and depression.

Who elected the SCOTUS? I certainly don't remember that vote. Your whole posts sounds like the little kid that is happy they got what they wanted.

That's just the anger talking.

Congress was the one who voted, and passed the law. The SCOTUS ruled on challenges to it.

The challenger lost.

There are no demons here, but I'm listening to Karl Rove now, and his buck up speech includes a good strategy. He's already getting righties fired up about repealing Obamacare after 2016.

He's babbling a bit, like he's bargaining. Not as bad as election night 2012 on Fox, now that was funny..."Romney by a landslide"....hehe...good times, good times...but my concern isn't just a hobby. I work for a medical insurance company, and my company has itself, and me, so far out on a limb with Obamacare, undoing it would be catastrophic to my company and millions of America.

Righties are all about the idea of "right or wrong, you break it, you bought it" when defending the decision to g into Iraq, but not so much on post Obamacare healthcare in America.

I am not really angry because that passed long ago. I never thought in a million years that the SCOTUS would rule differently. That does not change the FACT of what the law says and the SCOTUS ruled that it didn't say what it says. An acknowledgement of fact isn't necessarily anger it is frustration perhaps.

Who in the hell listens to Rove? I sure don't. SCOTUSCARE will NEVER be repealed but this decision will be used forever to allow the court to make law. For that reason alone it was a very bad decision. If they would have kicked it back to congress this congress would not have had the guts to let it stand they would have fast tracked a bill. The SCOTUS let congress off the hook.

Congress stands to motivate 10 million voters to vote against Republicans if they repeal Obamacare, so they won't, and for that reason only.

 

[candycorn]

Via Twitter:

Yes! SCOTUS affirms what we know is true in our hearts & under the law: Health insurance should be affordable & available to all. -H

 

[SassyIrishLass]

SassyIrishLass is too damn dumb to understand that the bill was passed more than 50 times.

That's the opposite of "tyranny and despotism".

^^^ Old man, pretending to be female. Pathetic

Boring...old man. LOL You don't realize I know who you are LMAO

Yawn....Obamacare doesn't affect me. Our insurance is fully paid for. It's losers like you that mooch off the hard working people of this nation. Nothing to proud of old man

 

[toxicmedia]

This thread is soaking wet from all the con tears. They're getting the asses handed to them even by their own judges.

Right now they're all grieving, let's be sympathetic.

They'll be going through denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance (eventually on the acceptance)

The only thing that would keep me from indulging my own celebration, would be if righties actually cared about Americans, and the quality of their access to healthcare, as opposed to just being butt hurt because they lost, just like football fans when their team loses

The real joy comes later when Mark Levin is on the air....Gonna be sweet!

They're going to fry Justice Roberts, again

 

[Pete7469]

The NSA must have pictures of Roberts fuckin a sheep or something. I don't know how else he could rule in favor of that law.

Oh well, looks like we're stuck with it until it implodes as it's designed to, then the democrooks can push single payer.

 

[Freewill]

Mehh. The next president will repeal and replace it. The one single thing Obama accomplished in two terms, will be gone.

No way in hell that happens.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Obama:

Lily Ledbetter act - a DEM win
Auto Bailout - a DEM win
ACA - a DEM win
Got Osama bin Ladin - an AMERICAN win under a DEM president
ending DADT/gays in the military - a DEM win
Indian Trade Pact - a DEM win.
Renegotiated STARK treaty with Russia - a DEM win
Pacific Trade Agreement - a DEM win.

President Obama will indeed be able to claim that the vast majority of what he wanted to push through the US Congress indeed came to pass.

His record of successes will be greater than either Reagan's or Eisenhower's.

Congratulations, Mr. President.

He can add nationwide samesex marriage early next week
The court wants to go out on a high note

Yes, I am suspecting that it will be a majority decision for SSM.

And then the Right will be seeing black helicopters everywhere.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

The law was written exactly as obozo wanted it written. It just hasn't worked the way he wanted. So he told the court to rewrite the law for him. Makes no legal sense at all - as bad as bush v gore 2000.

 

[toxicmedia]

Yep, they read the law, didn't like what it said so they said it said something else and that was what was meant. In other words they made law. The read the mind of those who wrote the law. Regardless of which side you are on one would think what is happening is bad for the country. But I think those who just love shoving crap down on people will think this is the best thing that ever happened, they win and we all lose.

It isn't going to happen but imagine if the SCOTUS rules 5-4 against gay marriage. What do you think those crowing today will say about the SCOTUS?

All due respect...that just sounds like the third stage of grieving...bargaining.

If a Republican beats Hillary, and congress stays red after 2016, you'll not once hear righties, possibly you as well, say the phrase "shoving crap down throats".

If it turn out that way, the GOP will be doing what our government does regardless of who's in charge, they will spend all the money we send them, and some more on top of that...only then, on things righties want, as opposed to things lefties want.

The concept of having things "crammed down somebody's throat"...is simply a demonization of what happens to the losers of an election, after the winners implement what they ran on.

Obama ran on Obamacare, and was reelected.

Right now I'm listening to Fox News, and they're all a mixed bag of the 2nd and 4th stages of grieving, anger, and depression.

Who elected the SCOTUS? I certainly don't remember that vote. Your whole posts sounds like the little kid that is happy they got what they wanted.

That's just the anger talking.

Congress was the one who voted, and passed the law. The SCOTUS ruled on challenges to it.

The challenger lost.

There are no demons here, but I'm listening to Karl Rove now, and his buck up speech includes a good strategy. He's already getting righties fired up about repealing Obamacare after 2016.

He's babbling a bit, like he's bargaining. Not as bad as election night 2012 on Fox, now that was funny..."Romney by a landslide"....hehe...good times, good times...but my concern isn't just a hobby. I work for a medical insurance company, and my company has itself, and me, so far out on a limb with Obamacare, undoing it would be catastrophic to my company and millions of America.

Righties are all about the idea of "right or wrong, you break it, you bought it" when defending the decision to g into Iraq, but not so much on post Obamacare healthcare in America.

I am not really angry because that passed long ago. I never thought in a million years that the SCOTUS would rule differently. That does not change the FACT of what the law says and the SCOTUS ruled that it didn't say what it says. An acknowledgement of fact isn't necessarily anger it is frustration perhaps.

Who in the hell listens to Rove? I sure don't. SCOTUSCARE will NEVER be repealed but this decision will be used forever to allow the court to make law. For that reason alone it was a very bad decision. If they would have kicked it back to congress this congress would not have had the guts to let it stand they would have fast tracked a bill. The SCOTUS let congress off the hook.

That' a pretty decent take on things. The GOP lacks the balls to go against the ACA even though in principal, it is not overwhelmingly supported. It's a mess that is only going to get worse... like I said, I fear we're doomed anyway.... we're $17,000,000,000,000 in debt with nearly $60,000,000,000,000 n unfunded liabilities.

It's only a mater of when.

You don't think Republicans will eliminate that debt, and unfunded liabilities...if only we'll elect them in 2016....do you?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The Right has lost on this issue - permanently.

Clinton will campaign mightily on this and she will win on this.

Until January 20th, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Pres. Obama can veto any bill that would try to dismantle Obamacare.

If Hillary is elected in 2016, then the same thing applies from 2017-2021.

If a Republican is elected, he will need a 60 seat Republican Senate to even get an Obamacare-repeal bill through.

And by then, this legislation will be so anchored into American life that you will not be able to uproot it.

This is a lot like the desperate fight against Social Security in the 1930s, a fight that the Right lost, miserably.

Cons continue to try to destroy Social Security, beating that dead horse for 85 years.

They will fail.

Hell, even the most idiotic of badly-spelled placard Tea Partiers want their SS.

Who wouldn't want their money? Only an idiot wouldn't want pension payments form a fund they've been paying into their entire lives.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Yes, indeed, I predict a very long life for this interesting thread.

 

[bendog]

Obama:

Lily Ledbetter act - a DEM win
Auto Bailout - a DEM win
ACA - a DEM win
Got Osama bin Ladin - an AMERICAN win under a DEM president
ending DADT/gays in the military - a DEM win
Indian Trade Pact - a DEM win.
Renegotiated STARK treaty with Russia - a DEM win
Pacific Trade Agreement - a DEM win.

President Obama will indeed be able to claim that the vast majority of what he wanted to push through the US Congress indeed came to pass.

His record of successes will be greater than either Reagan's or Eisenhower's.

Congratulations, Mr. President.

He can add nationwide samesex marriage early next week
The court wants to go out on a high note

Yes, I am suspecting that it will be a majority decision for SSM.

And then the Right will be seeing black helicopters everywhere.

I can't see Scalia and Thomas backing SSM. And Alito is questionable, imo.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

All due respect...that just sounds like the third stage of grieving...bargaining.

If a Republican beats Hillary, and congress stays red after 2016, you'll not once hear righties, possibly you as well, say the phrase "shoving crap down throats".

If it turn out that way, the GOP will be doing what our government does regardless of who's in charge, they will spend all the money we send them, and some more on top of that...only then, on things righties want, as opposed to things lefties want.

The concept of having things "crammed down somebody's throat"...is simply a demonization of what happens to the losers of an election, after the winners implement what they ran on.

Obama ran on Obamacare, and was reelected.

Right now I'm listening to Fox News, and they're all a mixed bag of the 2nd and 4th stages of grieving, anger, and depression.

Who elected the SCOTUS? I certainly don't remember that vote. Your whole posts sounds like the little kid that is happy they got what they wanted.

That's just the anger talking.

Congress was the one who voted, and passed the law. The SCOTUS ruled on challenges to it.

The challenger lost.

There are no demons here, but I'm listening to Karl Rove now, and his buck up speech includes a good strategy. He's already getting righties fired up about repealing Obamacare after 2016.

He's babbling a bit, like he's bargaining. Not as bad as election night 2012 on Fox, now that was funny..."Romney by a landslide"....hehe...good times, good times...but my concern isn't just a hobby. I work for a medical insurance company, and my company has itself, and me, so far out on a limb with Obamacare, undoing it would be catastrophic to my company and millions of America.

Righties are all about the idea of "right or wrong, you break it, you bought it" when defending the decision to g into Iraq, but not so much on post Obamacare healthcare in America.

I am not really angry because that passed long ago. I never thought in a million years that the SCOTUS would rule differently. That does not change the FACT of what the law says and the SCOTUS ruled that it didn't say what it says. An acknowledgement of fact isn't necessarily anger it is frustration perhaps.

Who in the hell listens to Rove? I sure don't. SCOTUSCARE will NEVER be repealed but this decision will be used forever to allow the court to make law. For that reason alone it was a very bad decision. If they would have kicked it back to congress this congress would not have had the guts to let it stand they would have fast tracked a bill. The SCOTUS let congress off the hook.

That' a pretty decent take on things. The GOP lacks the balls to go against the ACA even though in principal, it is not overwhelmingly supported. It's a mess that is only going to get worse... like I said, I fear we're doomed anyway.... we're $17,000,000,000,000 in debt with nearly $60,000,000,000,000 n unfunded liabilities.

It's only a mater of when.

You don't think Republicans will eliminate that debt, and unfunded liabilities...if only we'll elect them in 2016....do you?

How? With what? That's my point.... anybody that believes we can endlessly pile on more debt is delusional... shit, the Chinese only have so much money to lend us.

 

[Freewill]

^^^ Old man, pretending to be female. Pathetic

Boring...old man. LOL You don't realize I know who you are LMAO

Yawn....Obamacare doesn't affect me. Our insurance is fully paid for. It's losers like you that mooch off the hard working people of this nation. Nothing to proud of old man

Funny how things work. Me and the wife lost our healthcare because of the EXCUSE that Obamacare was going to be so cheap. Yet all that happened was we were dropped and the company now picks up nothing. But I make too much for subsidizes. Success is once again punished.

A friend of mind when on the ACA website and tried to sign up. When they were asked if they were employed, when they answered no, it kicked them off the site.

Obamacare does effect you.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Obama:

Lily Ledbetter act - a DEM win
Auto Bailout - a DEM win
ACA - a DEM win
Got Osama bin Ladin - an AMERICAN win under a DEM president
ending DADT/gays in the military - a DEM win
Indian Trade Pact - a DEM win.
Renegotiated STARK treaty with Russia - a DEM win
Pacific Trade Agreement - a DEM win.

President Obama will indeed be able to claim that the vast majority of what he wanted to push through the US Congress indeed came to pass.

His record of successes will be greater than either Reagan's or Eisenhower's.

Congratulations, Mr. President.

He can add nationwide samesex marriage early next week
The court wants to go out on a high note

Yes, I am suspecting that it will be a majority decision for SSM.

And then the Right will be seeing black helicopters everywhere.

I can't see Scalia and Thomas backing SSM. And Alito is questionable, imo.

But I can see Kennedy supporting it.

It will be at least a 5-4 decision, if not a 6-3 decision.

I doubt it will be a 7-2 decision.

On CNN it is being argued that Robert's decision is actually a very Conservative decision.

 

[candycorn]

^^^ Old man, pretending to be female. Pathetic

Boring...old man. LOL You don't realize I know who you are LMAO

Yawn....Obamacare doesn't affect me. Our insurance is fully paid for. It's losers like you that mooch off the hard working people of this nation. Nothing to proud of old man

 

[Liminal]

^^^ Old man, pretending to be female. Pathetic

Boring...old man. LOL You don't realize I know who you are LMAO

Yawn....Obamacare doesn't affect me. Our insurance is fully paid for. It's losers like you that mooch off the hard working people of this nation. Nothing to proud of old man

Funny how things work. Me and the wife lost our healthcare because of the EXCUSE that Obamacare was going to be so cheap. Yet all that happened was we were dropped and the company now picks up nothing. But I make too much for subsidizes. Success is once again punished.

A friend of mind when on the ACA website and tried to sign up. When they were asked if they were employed, when they answered no, it kicked them off the site.

Obamacare does effect you.

Prove it. I say you're lying, none of that ever happened.