Supreme Court ruling on race based Louisiana redistrict question hurts democrats

[struth]

That's not true.

He got 12% of the black vote in 2020, when blacks made up 13% of the electorate.

How Groups Voted in 2020 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research

TypeDemographicGroupBidenTrumpSEXMen484553Women525742RACEWhite674158African-American138712Hispanic

ropercenter.cornell.edu

He got 13% of the black vote in 2024, when they made up 11% of the electorate.

How Groups Voted in 2024 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research

TypeDemographicGroupHarrisTrumpSEXMen474355Women535345RACEWhite714257African-American118613Hispanic

ropercenter.cornell.edu

He barely moved the needle at all.

Your links aren’t accurate at all Behind Trump’s 2024 Victory, a More Racially and Ethnically Diverse Voter Coalition

Oh I see the issue your misleading the posters, your link is to an exit poll, not actual voter returns

Thanks

 

[Mac-7]

We aren't losing black voters, guy.

Trump got a mere 13%*** of the black vote in 2024.

And that had more to do with reduced participation due to voter suppression than black people suddenly loving Trump.

*** Correction, he got 13% of the black vote in 2024

How Groups Voted in 2024 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research

TypeDemographicGroupHarrisTrumpSEXMen474355Women535345RACEWhite714257African-American118613Hispanic

ropercenter.cornell.edu

You are losing the black vote due to the incompetence of the democrat party

Trump is not running for president again

So you wont see it in his vote count

But the erosion for democrats is real

 

[SweetTea]

it depends why you didn't like your ex-girlfriend.

I mean, I can see that you are finally realizing Trump has been a disaster and you are looking towards whatever rebrand your side needs to try.

But I think more than a few people are going to realize that tax cuts for the rich and deregulation don't benefit them.

"but, but, but... trannies!!!"

It was tax cuts for just about everybody, but I guess you have heard the tax cuts for the rich propaganda so often that you actually believe. That is much of your problem.

 

[JoeB131]

Your links aren’t accurate at all Behind Trump’s 2024 Victory, a More Racially and Ethnically Diverse Voter Coalition

Oh I see the issue your misleading the posters, your link is to an exit poll, not actual voter returns

Voter returns aren't accuate because we have secret ballots.

You are losing the black vote due to the incompetence of the democrat party

Trump is not running for president again

So you wont see it in his vote count

But the erosion for democrats is real

No, it really isn't.

If Trump was doing so good with black people, he wouldn't be trying to suppress the black vote, pass shit like the SAVE Act, dismantle black majority districts, and so on.

Trump knows he's unpopular and is pulling every trick in the book to rig the next election, because he knows once the Democrats retake the house, he's getting impeached again, and the vast majority will be in favor of it

 

[struth]

Voter returns aren't accuate because we have secret ballots.



No, it really isn't.

If Trump was doing so good with black people, he wouldn't be trying to suppress the black vote, pass shit like the SAVE Act, dismantle black majority districts, and so on.

Trump knows he's unpopular and is pulling every trick in the book to rig the next election, because he knows once the Democrats retake the house, he's getting impeached again, and the vast majority will be in favor of it

Weird you say voter returns aren’t accurate

 

[JoeB131]

Weird you say voter returns aren’t accurate

As far as determining who voted for who, most certainly.

It's a secret ballot. We can tell you Trump got 77 million votes, but we can't tell you how many black people voted for him on the basis of vote totals.

 

[Mac-7]

Voter returns aren't accuate because we have secret ballots.



No, it really isn't.

If Trump was doing so good with black people, he wouldn't be trying to suppress the black vote, pass shit like the SAVE Act, dismantle black majority districts, and so on.

Trump knows he's unpopular and is pulling every trick in the book to rig the next election, because he knows once the Democrats retake the house, he's getting impeached again, and the vast majority will be in favor of it

We/he are not trying to suppress the black vote

But race-based black-only congressional districts are unconstitional

Sorry ‘bout that

 

[Divine Wind]

The 24 and 25 average rate of employment is 4.3% as of April. It started softening in 2023 during Biden’s tenure. 4.3% is low by historical standards, despite ~350k public sector layoffs. The unemployment rate is not a significant issue at the moment, but Democrat are attempting to make it an issue.

All that being said, AI will cause an uptick, no matter who is president. You can bet on that.

Agreed on AI. The main problem is the US is very poor at retraining Americans for the modern age.

Most of Trump's MAGA is "bringing jobs back to America" but most of those jobs are making jeans, textiles and other low skill jobs now outsourced to children in Vietnam and China.

Better to train Americans in modern skills. A recent commercial by Indeed.com points this out by a worker who doesn't know what COBOL is.

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[Divine Wind]

We/he are not trying to suppress the black vote

But race-based black-only congressional districts are unconstitional

Sorry ‘bout that

Mac, the Republicans have been trying to suppress black and other minority votes for this entire century. It's the main reason I switched from the Republican Party after 38 years to the LP.

When the Republicans rejected their own "Growth & Opportunity Project" results I couldn't hold my nose to vote for them any longer. Romney, whom I liked, was my last Republican vote. Not trusting the Democrats, I've stuck with the LP ever since.

How Voter Suppression Legislation Is Tied to Race

Patterns in the introduction and passage of restrictive voting bills are best explained by race.

www.brennancenter.org

 

[Mac-7]

Mac, the Republicans have been trying to suppress black and other minority votes for this entire century. It's the main reason I switched from the Republican Party after 38 years to the LP.

When the Republicans rejected their own "Growth & Opportunity Project" results I couldn't hold my nose to vote for them any longer. Romney, whom I liked, was my last Republican vote. Not trusting the Democrats, I've stuck with the LP ever since.

How Voter Suppression Legislation Is Tied to Race

Patterns in the introduction and passage of restrictive voting bills are best explained by race.

www.brennancenter.org

I see your side suppressing white voters

Obama specialized in it

He even said publicly that democrats no longer need the white vote

But if you lose 100 guaranteed black congressional seats between now and 2028 its your own fault

 

[Divine Wind]

I see your side suppressing white voters

Obama specialized in it

He even said publicly that democrats no longer need the white vote

But if you lose 100 guaranteed black congressional seats between now and 2028 its your own fault

Name a single Libertarian who seeks to suppress votes of any American. TIA

You're free to lie about me, Mac. It's not like it's the first time you've been pissed off at me to do so for one reason or another.

 

[struth]

As far as determining who voted for who, most certainly.

It's a secret ballot. We can tell you Trump got 77 million votes, but we can't tell you how many black people voted for him on the basis of vote totals.

Secret means you don’t know the name of the person

 

[Mac-7]

Name a single Libertarian who seeks to suppress votes of any American. TIA

You're free to lie about me, Mac. It's not like it's the first time you've been pissed off at me to do so for one reason or another.

Do you call yourself a Libertarian?

Thats about half ok and half horrible

Support for the 2nd Amendment is welcome

But open borders is not

 

[Divine Wind]

Do you call yourself a Libertarian?

Thats about half ok and half horrible

Support for the 2nd Amendment is welcome

But open borders is not

If you were as smart as you think you are, Mac, you'd know I'm a Libertarian. Your lies about me being a Democrat are just evidence you are a low IQ, poorly educated and dishonest person.

Agreed on supporting the Constitution and securing our nation. What I disagree with are the ******* morons who think a multi-billion dollar 2000 mile wall will stop illegal immigration versus Immigration Reform which would lock up any business owner or other person who supports illegal immigration...which is, of course, the modern form of indentured servitude. Those people are the ones most MAGAts support which is just another reason to see they are evil doers who are mammon-worshipers.

 

[Mac-7]

If you were as smart as you think you are, Mac, you'd know I'm a Libertarian. Your lies about me being a Democrat are just evidence you are a low IQ, poorly educated and dishonest person.

Agreed on supporting the Constitution and securing our nation. What I disagree with are the ******* morons who think a multi-billion dollar 2000 mile wall will stop illegal immigration versus Immigration Reform which would lock up any business owner or other person who supports illegal immigration...which is, of course, the modern form of indentured servitude. Those people are the ones most MAGAts support which is just another reason to see they are evil doers who are mammon-worshipers.

The wall and other measures have severely cut down the illegal alien invasion from mexico

And I mention that without calling you a moron

 

[struth]

If you were as smart as you think you are, Mac, you'd know I'm a Libertarian. Your lies about me being a Democrat are just evidence you are a low IQ, poorly educated and dishonest person.

Agreed on supporting the Constitution and securing our nation. What I disagree with are the ******* morons who think a multi-billion dollar 2000 mile wall will stop illegal immigration versus Immigration Reform which would lock up any business owner or other person who supports illegal immigration...which is, of course, the modern form of indentured servitude. Those people are the ones most MAGAts support which is just another reason to see they are evil doers who are mammon-worshipers.

A wall won’t stop it completely

Immigration reform isn’t needed to do things you want

It’s already against the law to knowingly hire an illegal and it’s also already against the law to give aid to illegals

 

[Divine Wind]

The wall and other measures have severely cut down the illegal alien invasion from mexico

And I mention that without calling you a moron

You lied about me. Prove you are an honest man and apologize or run like the little coward I think you are.

 

[Mac-7]

You lied about me. Prove you are an honest man and apologize or run like the little coward I think you are.

When did I lie about you?

 

[Divine Wind]

It was tax cuts for just about everybody, but I guess you have heard the tax cuts for the rich propaganda so often that you actually believe. That is much of your problem.

Trump's BBB primarily benefits the rich with thick cuts of meat while middle-class Americans get table scraps.



who does trump's big beautiful bill help the most?

The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA), signed into law on July 4, 2025, primarily benefits high-income households, corporations, and the fossil fuel industry. While the White House has framed it as a massive middle-class tax break, nonpartisan analyses indicate that the wealthiest Americans and large businesses receive the largest share of financial gains. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
Primary Beneficiaries

• High-Income Earners:
  
  • Analysis from the Tax Policy Center suggests that 57% of the tax cuts go to households earning over $217,000 annually.
  • Roughly one-third of the total benefits are concentrated among those earning more than $460,000.
  • The bill makes permanent the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) corporate tax rates.
  • It introduces expanded deductions for new manufacturing plants and more flexible interest deduction limits.

Key Provisions & Funding
The bill is projected to add $3.3 trillion to the national deficit through 2034. To offset costs, it includes significant spending cuts: [1, 2, 3]

Group Affected [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]	Provision Impact
Low-Income Families	Cuts to Medicaid, SNAP (food stamps), and other safety net programs.
Medicaid Recipients	New work requirements and more frequent (6-month) re-enrolment checks.
Seniors	A temporary $6,000 deduction for tax years 2025–2028.
Public Sector	Increased funding for the military, border wall, and mass deportation efforts.

According to Congressional Budget Office estimates, the changes to Medicaid alone could result in 7.6 million Americans losing health insurance over the next decade. [1]

 

[Divine Wind]

A wall won’t stop it completely

Immigration reform isn’t needed to do things you want

It’s already against the law to knowingly hire an illegal and it’s also already against the law to give aid to illegals

Agreed Trump's wall doesn't stop illegal immigration since they have boat, tunnel and air travel technology. It doesn't do shit about stopping drugs.

Are you saying the laws are sufficient but it's strictly an enforcement issue? Why doesn't Trump have ICE arrest those hiring and supporting illegals by renting to them?