Supreme Court: Coach Can Pray on the Sidelines. Ruling 6-3

[SweetSue92]

A win for religious freedom. For you Constitutional remedial learners: there is no "separation of church and state" in the Constitution. The 1st Amendment says ONLY that Congress cannot establish a state religion, as in the Church of England. That's it.

Supreme Court Sides With Coach Over Prayers at the 50-Yard Line (Published 2022)

Joseph Kennedy, a former high school football coach in Bremerton, Wash., had a constitutional right to pray on the field after his team’s games, the justices ruled.

www.nytimes.com

High school football coach scores big win at Supreme Court over post-game prayer

The Supreme Court ruled that a school district violeted high school football coach Joe Kennedy's First Amendment rights by firing him for saying on-field prayers after games.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Uncensored2008]

Restoring the 2nd Amendment, now restoring the 1st Amendment?

democrats must be livid.

 

[SweetSue92]

Restoring the 2nd Amendment, now restoring the 1st Amendment?

democrats must be livid.

Between the gun ruling, Roe and this one...yeah

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Bad decision by the Court.

The Coach is a paid employee, by choosing to pray to his chosen god he is endorsing that god as part of his official duties as head coach. Endorsing one religion over all others is the first step to establishing it.

I cannot wait till the Satanist get ahold of this and start to hold their version of "prayers" after a football game.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Praying was considered "government speech" by the school district that is hilarious!

 

[SweetSue92]

From the opinion, Gorsuch: "A government entity’s concerns about phantom constitutional violations do not justify actual violations of an individual’s First Amendment rights."

BOOM

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdf

 

[Billy_Bob]

Bad decision by the Court.

The Coach is a paid employee, by choosing to pray to his chosen god he is endorsing that god as part of his official duties as head coach. Endorsing one religion over all others is the first step to establishing it.

I cannot wait till the Satanist get ahold of this and start to hold their version of "prayers" after a football game.

Wrong... Deeply held personal beliefs are not restricted by employment.

 

[rightwinger]

As the TRUMPCourt continues to erode Constitutional protections long understood.

The coach has a right to personally pray but not to coerce players to participate in public prayer

The coach was fired for ignoring instructions not to hold public prayers not for the act of praying

 

[rightwinger]

Wrong... Deeply held personal beliefs are not restricted by employment.

Of course not
But forcing those beliefs on others is restricted

 

[SweetSue92]

Bad decision by the Court.

The Coach is a paid employee, by choosing to pray to his chosen god he is endorsing that god as part of his official duties as head coach. Endorsing one religion over all others is the first step to establishing it.

I cannot wait till the Satanist get ahold of this and start to hold their version of "prayers" after a football game.

Also from the opinion, Gorsuch:

"There is no conflict between the constitutional commands of the First Amendment in this case. There is only the “mere shadow” of a conflict, a false choice premised on a misconstruction of the Establishment Clause. "

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Wrong... Deeply held personal beliefs are not restricted by employment.

Correct, he can pray all he likes, just not part of his official duties

 

[SweetSue92]

As the TRUMPCourt continues to erode Constitutional protections long understood.

The coach has a right to personally pray but not to coerce players to participate in public prayer

The coach was fired for ignoring instructions not to hold public prayers not for the act of praying

Wrong. Read the opinion.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Bad decision by the Court.

The Coach is a paid employee, by choosing to pray to his chosen god he is endorsing that god as part of his official duties as head coach. Endorsing one religion over all others is the first step to establishing it.

I cannot wait till the Satanist get ahold of this and start to hold their version of "prayers" after a football game.

It was just a private prayer in which NO ONE was forced to join.

You are overly sensitive because it is a free speech right to pray and being an employee is irrelevant because he was doing it discreetly in private prayer in the middle of the football field.

I am an atheist who isn't bothered by it as I understand why people do it.

 

[SweetSue92]

Correct, he can pray all he likes, just not part of his official duties

Wrong. His Constitutional rights, as outlined in the First Amendment, do not stop at the schoolhouse door or the playing field. He can personally pray. He cannot coerce students to pray. But he does not have to give up his rights because he is at a school function.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Also from the opinion, Gorsuch:

"There is no conflict between the constitutional commands of the First Amendment in this case. There is only the “mere shadow” of a conflict, a false choice premised on a misconstruction of the Establishment Clause. "

And?

I am not supposed this was the outcome for the case, with the court the way it is everyone knew this would be the outcome.

Does not mean I have to agree with it.

But, since the door was opened, you can expect to see some pretty wild praying going on soon

 

[SweetSue92]

Of course not
But forcing those beliefs on others is restricted

You're dead wrong again.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdf

 

[SweetSue92]

And?

I am not supposed this was the outcome for the case, with the court the way it is everyone knew this would be the outcome.

Does not mean I have to agree with it.

But, since the door was opened, you can expect to see some pretty wild praying going on soon

It's not just "the ruling". It's what the Constitution says. The three liberals don't care what the Constitution says. They just emote. We know this.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Correct, he can pray all he likes, just not part of his official duties

It wasn't interfering with his official duties as the game ended.

I think it is his praying is why you are aggrieved.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It was just a private prayer in which NO ONE was forced to join.

You are overly sensitive because it is a free speech right to pray and being an employee is irrelevant because he was doing it discreetly in private prayer in the middle of the football field.

I am an atheist who isn't bothered by it as I understand why people do it.

He did it in the middle of the football field, there was nothing private about it.

By it very nature, nothing done on the 50 yard line of a football stadium full of people is discrete.

And I am a follower of Jesus who also understands why people do it.

 

[rightwinger]

You're dead wrong again.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdf

The TRUMPCourt is wrong
Just like they have been wrong on many recent decisions

They just don’t care as they revise our Constitution from the bench