Support Israel? Yes or no?

[Book of Jeremiah]

When it comes to God and Israel? You're either with Him or against Him. There are no grey areas, Delta. As for you? You say you were Jewish? Esau sold his birthright for more than you did. Just so you know......

There is no God and Israel.

God does not side with a bunch of arrogant assholes, running around acting like their shit don't stink.

God does not side with those treating an entire population of people like garbage.

God does not side with those standing around this little boy yelling,
"Die! Die! Die!"

But its all in the two books ancient Jews wrote.

Maybe Jews do run the world. The got the banks. Maybe they're behind Christianity. They actually own the Vatican. They certainly got the born again hooked huh? Says to protect and defend them no matter what.

The Jews do not run the world. The Jews do not have the banks. The Jews do not own the Vatican. The Jews did not "hook" the born again. Buy a Bible and read it, Sealy.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Israel for the Jews , the goyim don't matter

Those camps in Eastern Europe are still there, you know.

I smell pork stench

You'll be smelling Zyklon-B if you're not careful.

Do not do this on my thread, Swagger. Leave Guno alone.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Do you believe it is important to support Israel with our prayers, our time, our resources? Are you in favor of standing by those who are allies to America and blessing them as they have blessed us? Weeping with a nation who is under attack and remembering that they wept with us on 9/11? I support Israel and believe she should be supported by the American people. How about you? Do you believe in supporting Israel or no?

You believe it because your bible tells you to. Please explain briefly what the bible says. What does the prophesy say again?

The other reason is their location. We need Israel in the middle East. Just like we need turkey more than Greece. This I get.

But I don't always agree with Israel. The mess with the Palestinians and won't give them their own state.

If you believe Israel has a right to exist and to defend herself? Vote yes, Sealy. It's very simple. Speaking up for Israel is an example of support for Israel.

 

[eagle1462010]

Bible Gateway passage: Ezekiel 38-39 - New American Standard Bible

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11 “On that day I will give Gog a burial ground there in Israel, the valley of those who pass by east of the sea, and it will block off those who would pass by. So they will bury Gog there with all his horde, and they will call it the valley of Hamon-gog.12 For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them in order to to their set up a marker by it until the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamon-gog.16 And even the name of the city will be Hamonah. So they will cleanse the land.”’

 

[eagle1462010]

The question is............will gog be Russia.......or will it be Turkey..............

Given Turkey's stance via Erogan................or whatever that POS's name is...........he wants to get an alliance with the other Muslim Countries and wipe Israel off the map. Just as Iran does, and the others.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

"stand with..."

To what extent? What does that question mean?

Why doesn't Israel "stand with " the US? We are Israel's ally but they are not ours.

Jeremiah Like everything else you post about, you're a non-thinking fanatic on this subject.

While I am passionate about Israel, I am not non-thinking on the subject. I have thought about it a great deal and have asked a simple question in the OP, Luddly. Do you believe it is right to stand by those who stand by you? It's a very simple question, Luddly. Do not overthink it. It's very simple. Yes or no. Pick one. Or don't. Your choice.

No Jeri, its not simple.

When someone cherry picks what they'll reply to, I know they're hiding from it. Here's the rest of what I wrote.

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"stand with..."

To what extent? What does that question mean?

Why doesn't Israel "stand with " the US? We are Israel's ally but they are not ours.
++++

Okay ...

I say of course we should stand with our allies but I believe they should stand with us as well.

I believe we should stand with Israel to the exact same extent as Israel stands with us. Would you agree with that? Or do you believe we should continue to give them money and weapons while they give us nothing in return?

Netanyahu has been very clear that he "stands with " America only to the extent of what will do to further his agenda.

Now do you get my point?

 

[tyroneweaver]

Do you believe it is important to support Israel with our prayers, our time, our resources? Are you in favor of standing by those who are allies to America and blessing them as they have blessed us? Weeping with a nation who is under attack and remembering that they wept with us on 9/11? I support Israel and believe she should be supported by the American people. How about you? Do you believe in supporting Israel or no?

Israel is not the victims, they are the perpetrators.

ya, and Sam Kinnison was responsible for his own death

 

[sealybobo]

"stand with..."

To what extent? What does that question mean?

Why doesn't Israel "stand with " the US? We are Israel's ally but they are not ours.

Jeremiah Like everything else you post about, you're a non-thinking fanatic on this subject.

While I am passionate about Israel, I am not non-thinking on the subject. I have thought about it a great deal and have asked a simple question in the OP, Luddly. Do you believe it is right to stand by those who stand by you? It's a very simple question, Luddly. Do not overthink it. It's very simple. Yes or no. Pick one. Or don't. Your choice.

Explain to Luddly how Israel stands with us.

 

[sealybobo]

When it comes to God and Israel? You're either with Him or against Him. There are no grey areas, Delta. As for you? You say you were Jewish? Esau sold his birthright for more than you did. Just so you know......

There is no God and Israel.

God does not side with a bunch of arrogant assholes, running around acting like their shit don't stink.

God does not side with those treating an entire population of people like garbage.

God does not side with those standing around this little boy yelling,
"Die! Die! Die!"

But its all in the two books ancient Jews wrote.

Maybe Jews do run the world. The got the banks. Maybe they're behind Christianity. They actually own the Vatican. They certainly got the born again hooked huh? Says to protect and defend them no matter what.

The Jews do not run the world. The Jews do not have the banks. The Jews do not own the Vatican. The Jews did not "hook" the born again. Buy a Bible and read it, Sealy.

If I want to know what the Bible says I'll ask you.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The question is............will gog be Russia.......or will it be Turkey..............

Given Turkey's stance via Erogan................or whatever that POS's name is...........he wants to get an alliance with the other Muslim Countries and wipe Israel off the map. Just as Iran does, and the others.

I believe Gog and Magog speaks of the leader of that time (whose name means prince) and the nation is he is ruler over - Russia. Interesting that the name Vladimir? Means Prince. There is another Vladimir who is very popular with the Russians. His name is Vladimir Zhirinovsky. If it were not Putin it could be Zhirinovsky. Or another Vladimir in the future. Time will tell.

 

[tyroneweaver]

"stand with..."

To what extent? What does that question mean?

Why doesn't Israel "stand with " the US? We are Israel's ally but they are not ours.

Jeremiah Like everything else you post about, you're a non-thinking fanatic on this subject.

While I am passionate about Israel, I am not non-thinking on the subject. I have thought about it a great deal and have asked a simple question in the OP, Luddly. Do you believe it is right to stand by those who stand by you? It's a very simple question, Luddly. Do not overthink it. It's very simple. Yes or no. Pick one. Or don't. Your choice.

No Jeri, its not simple.

When someone cherry picks what they'll reply to, I know they're hiding from it. Here's the rest of what I wrote.

+++
"stand with..."

To what extent? What does that question mean?

Why doesn't Israel "stand with " the US? We are Israel's ally but they are not ours.
++++

Okay ...

I say of course we should stand with our allies but I believe they should stand with us as well.

I believe we should stand with Israel to the exact same extent as Israel stands with us. Would you agree with that? Or do you believe we should continue to give them money and weapons while they give us nothing in return?

Netanyahu has been very clear that he "stands with " America only to the extent of what will do to further his agenda.

Now do you get my point?

now I better understand why you dems hand out huge amounts of money to your plebes

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

"stand with..."

To what extent? What does that question mean?

Why doesn't Israel "stand with " the US? We are Israel's ally but they are not ours.

Jeremiah Like everything else you post about, you're a non-thinking fanatic on this subject.

While I am passionate about Israel, I am not non-thinking on the subject. I have thought about it a great deal and have asked a simple question in the OP, Luddly. Do you believe it is right to stand by those who stand by you? It's a very simple question, Luddly. Do not overthink it. It's very simple. Yes or no. Pick one. Or don't. Your choice.

Explain to Luddly how Israel stands with us.

Which nation sent a plane full of supplies to the victims of Super Storm Sandy? Only one nation. Think hard. Was it Britain? Saudi Arabia? Australia? Japan? China? No, no, no, no, and no again. Was it Russia? Was it Taiwan? Was it Malaysia, South Korea or Kenya? No, no, no, no and no again. Was it Germany, was it Italy? Was it the Vatican? No, no, and definitely not. Who sent that plane full of supplies?

ISRAEL.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Here is another thought for you......

One day? We'll all stand before God and give an account for our lives and on that day? I believe it is quite likely the LORD will remind some folks here about their words concerning Israel! Yes. I believe some of you who from a good conscience have voted for Israel, spoken up for Israel will be quite surprised when the Lord commends you for having spoken on her behalf. Because He knows that by the worlds standards it isn't the "popular thing to do".... yet you've done it. Without any expectation of reward. And so God will openly reward you in that day.

Then there will be some of you here who believe you're A-OK with God and even doing His will by condemning Israel and cursing the Jews! At least one has gone as far as to threaten a Jew here that the camps are still open in Europe! Does that person know that the Jew he threatened has family members he lost during the Holocaust? I wonder. Well, in any case, there is a day when we shall all give an account for our words and actions and that would include whether or not we blessed the Jews and blessed Israel.

With that in mind? It's an important poll. Perhaps more important than many of you realize.

 

[sealybobo]

"stand with..."

To what extent? What does that question mean?

Why doesn't Israel "stand with " the US? We are Israel's ally but they are not ours.

Jeremiah Like everything else you post about, you're a non-thinking fanatic on this subject.

While I am passionate about Israel, I am not non-thinking on the subject. I have thought about it a great deal and have asked a simple question in the OP, Luddly. Do you believe it is right to stand by those who stand by you? It's a very simple question, Luddly. Do not overthink it. It's very simple. Yes or no. Pick one. Or don't. Your choice.

Explain to Luddly how Israel stands with us.

Which nation sent a plane full of supplies to the victims of Super Storm Sandy? Only one nation. Think hard. Was it Britain? Saudi Arabia? Australia? Japan? China? No, no, no, no, and no again. Was it Russia? Was it Taiwan? Was it Malaysia, South Korea or Kenya? No, no, no, no and no again. Was it Germany, was it Italy? Was it the Vatican? No, no, and definitely not. Who sent that plane full of supplies?

ISRAEL.

One plane? For all we've done for them?

That's worth one misscle. What else you got?

We probably have them that plane. They better bring us some motsa balls.

So we have to look the other way now no matter what?

 

[Indofred]

Israel has brought nothing but death, misery and taxes to Americans.
**** them.

 

[sealybobo]

Here is another thought for you......

One day? We'll all stand before God and give an account for our lives and on that day? I believe it is quite likely the LORD will remind some folks here about their words concerning Israel! Yes. I believe some of you who from a good conscience have voted for Israel, spoken up for Israel will be quite surprised when the Lord commends you for having spoken on her behalf. Because He knows that by the worlds standards it isn't the "popular thing to do".... yet you've done it. Without any expectation of reward. And so God will openly reward you in that day.

Then there will be some of you here who believe you're A-OK with God and even doing His will by condemning Israel and cursing the Jews! At least one has gone as far as to threaten a Jew here that the camps are still open in Europe! Does that person know that the Jew he threatened has family members he lost during the Holocaust? I wonder. Well, in any case, there is a day when we shall all give an account for our words and actions and that would include whether or not we blessed the Jews and blessed Israel.

With that in mind? It's an important poll. Perhaps more important than many of you realize.

Add " thou must stand with Israel " to the commandments. Did Jesus say to?

 

[Indofred]

there is a day when we shall all give an account for our words and actions and that would include whether or not we blessed the Jews and blessed Israel.

What about American Christians?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

"stand with..."

To what extent? What does that question mean?

Why doesn't Israel "stand with " the US? We are Israel's ally but they are not ours.

Jeremiah Like everything else you post about, you're a non-thinking fanatic on this subject.

While I am passionate about Israel, I am not non-thinking on the subject. I have thought about it a great deal and have asked a simple question in the OP, Luddly. Do you believe it is right to stand by those who stand by you? It's a very simple question, Luddly. Do not overthink it. It's very simple. Yes or no. Pick one. Or don't. Your choice.

Explain to Luddly how Israel stands with us.

Which nation sent a plane full of supplies to the victims of Super Storm Sandy? Only one nation. Think hard. Was it Britain? Saudi Arabia? Australia? Japan? China? No, no, no, no, and no again. Was it Russia? Was it Taiwan? Was it Malaysia, South Korea or Kenya? No, no, no, no and no again. Was it Germany, was it Italy? Was it the Vatican? No, no, and definitely not. Who sent that plane full of supplies?

ISRAEL.

One plane? For all we've done for them?

That's worth one misscle. What else you got?

We probably have them that plane. They better bring us some motsa balls.

So we have to look the other way now no matter what?

It's more than anyone else did and that was my point. They did plenty. Israel has been our closest ally since May 14th, 1948 when she was reborn and once again became a nation.

Before then and even from the beginnings of our own nation - it was the Jewish people who provided the finances to pull us through Valley Forge - we would have perished had it not been for Haym Solomon and the Jews who contributed their wealth to feed, cloth and send ammo to Washington and his men at Valley Forge (who were freezing to death, mind you). Today the money they donated (and were never repaid for) would be approximately the equivalent of perhaps 1 million dollars. What is the compound interest on 1 million dollars for approximately 200 plus years? What do we owe Haym Solomon's ancestors? 3 Trillion? 5 Trillion? He never asked to be repaid but if we were to repay them? We haven't even scratched the surface yet. Okay? Not even the surface.

 

[sealybobo]

Here is another thought for you......

One day? We'll all stand before God and give an account for our lives and on that day? I believe it is quite likely the LORD will remind some folks here about their words concerning Israel! Yes. I believe some of you who from a good conscience have voted for Israel, spoken up for Israel will be quite surprised when the Lord commends you for having spoken on her behalf. Because He knows that by the worlds standards it isn't the "popular thing to do".... yet you've done it. Without any expectation of reward. And so God will openly reward you in that day.

Then there will be some of you here who believe you're A-OK with God and even doing His will by condemning Israel and cursing the Jews! At least one has gone as far as to threaten a Jew here that the camps are still open in Europe! Does that person know that the Jew he threatened has family members he lost during the Holocaust? I wonder. Well, in any case, there is a day when we shall all give an account for our words and actions and that would include whether or not we blessed the Jews and blessed Israel.

With that in mind? It's an important poll. Perhaps more important than many of you realize.

I heard a preacher say if we saw ourselves the way the lord sees us we'd be disgusted.

You saying you want me to say to God after all the fornicating and blasphemy and lies all the other sins all humans have, according to your preachers, you want me to bring up and say to God, " at least I stood with the Jews who killed your son"?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

there is a day when we shall all give an account for our words and actions and that would include whether or not we blessed the Jews and blessed Israel.

What about American Christians?

EVERYONE.