Stupid Bastard Announces Begining Of Shooting War With Iran

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yeah, Capt. Obvious, shutting down the country/world has that kind of impact.

Did you not notice Russia and the Saudis are conspiring to take a lot of the shale production offline permanently, aside from the demand destruction resulting from the shutdown?

BWK, what did you say? Repeat?

 

[daveman]

Now you get to defend Obama for allowing Iran to fund international terrorism.

We've been through this. The US was returning frozen assets as part of the negotiation to get Iran to sign the nuclear agreement................also signed by the United Kingdom, Russia, France, and China—plus Germany) and the European Union.
It was well understood they would be at liberty to spend the money the way they wanted. It was a trade-off for them not becoming a nuclear, destabilizing threat to the region.

Iran Nuclear Deal: Debunking the Myths - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

So, not only did they fund international terrorism, the toothless deal did nothing to stop their nuclear ambitions.

Obama was such a fuck-up.

 

[eagle1462010]

Ok who else here would love to see these assholes harassing our ships in the Gulf on the Bottom.

The poor Troll doesn't like the fact that if they want to play this game again.......our Navy will waste them.

I vote......if they do it again......put them on the bottom.........Bottom's up..........

Anybody else..........

 

[daveman]

"When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back."

There were $5+ BILLION dollars in cash, loaded on pallets into aircraft, and flown to Iran. The $150 BILLION released to them was their money held to settle claims from Iran having held our hostages for 444 days during the failed administration of President Jimmy Carter. There was nothing of any significance gained by releasing the money but some of it was used to further terrorism around the world.

Apparently, it's racist to oppose Muslims funding Muslim terrorism.

Right, berg?

 

[eagle1462010]

Those who think that Trump was just shooting off his big mouth in a tweet after watching the Fox TV report on Iran this morning, and that he really doesn’t want a war with Iran at this point may be correct.

But even assuming this is true, his tweet gives cover for any commander (already with extensive authority to take action based on their own judgement of threat) to interpret all sorts of ostensible “harassment” as an excuse to “destroy” Iranian ships. Which of course would lead the Iranians to retaliate. All U.S. naval vessels in the Gulf are vulnerable to Iranian land-based missiles. Forget torpedos and rockets launched from fast moving ships. The tweet was — in the best case — dangerous posturing.

Of course there are powerful interests that have long wanted such a war. Elements in the Military-Industrial complex, the Israelis, U.S. Oil interests now fed up with Saudi unwillingness to cut production to zero to raise oil prices, imperialist geo-strategists who know a war in the Gulf will hurt China most, etc.

Trump probably does not personally want a war (it may hurt his election prospects), but he has doubled the number of our troop and navy personel in the Gulf, and by unilaterally tearing up the international agreements with Iran and killing the Iranian #2 leader, he has set the stage for a bloody and unnecessary catastrophe.

REMEMBER THE GULF OF TONKIN. The stakes in Vietnam were mainly ideological and based on our desire not to “lose face” in the Cold War. We always want to be the “tough guy.” But the U.S. had no business or real national interest fighting that war. Our real interest would have led us to work with the nationalist HoChiMinh from the earliest days of his struggle against French colonialism, to encourage him to take a line like Tito (which he certainly was open to).

Obama was right that we need to take giant step back from taking sides in the Sunni/Shia Saudi/Iranian divide. Trump must act and not just talk about stopping “endless wars” in the Middle East. The oil in Syria belongs to Syrians, not us. We ought to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan ASAP. We should stop our own provocations in the Gulf, and withdraw our navy buildup. We should express our willingness to re-enter and renegotiate our treaty obligations with Iran. In light of the Coronavirus pandemic, we should end secondary sanctions against countries that wish to buy oil from Iran immediately, ending especially our abuse of supposedly neutral and private SWIFT banking communication systems which prevent even crucial medical trade with Iran.

Our own disgust with the Iranian regime is shared by many Iranians, but our policies leave little room for opening breeches in the Iranian political system through which Iranian pro-democratic patriots can pour themselves to overthrow the theocracy.

Given the geo-political reality and the powerful dark interests who actually are willing to gamble on war, nobody should believe anything they read or hear about the U.S. being “harassed.” In any case, none of this is an excuse for starting a shooting war!

Iran is in desperate shape and its theocratic regime has been driven into a corner. But the U.S. is not threatened by Iran, just as we were not threatened by our old ally Saddam or by HoChiMinh. The U.S. is now carrying out de facto extraordinary war sanctions against Iran and may bring bloody destruction upon them in the near future, disrupting oil shipments from the Persian Gulf entirely. This will, very conveniently for the U.S. empire, raise oil prices to save our otherwise non-competitive bankrupt domestic fracking and export oil industry, and hurt China (and virtually all our competitors except Russia).

There will be NO OFFICIAL WAR..........although the unofficial War has been going on since 9/11 as they have killed more Americans with the IED's they supplied our enemies than all those killed by small arms fire.

A few of their ships go down......they WILL BACK OFF.....unless they want to commit Suicide.

 

[Nostra]

"As the Commander-in-Chief, President Donald Trump’s Fox News inspired tweet declaring he has instructed the Navy to “shoot down” Iranian gunboats was embarrassing, and deserving of the mockery it received. Anyone who served in the military, and pretty much anyone at all knows you don’t “shoot down” gunboats."This so called leader is a dangerous person and just has no idea what a "Law and Order President" is."This is not the first time Trump has threatened or issued an unlawful order."

Former Army JAG says Trump's tweet to 'shoot down gunboats' wasn't just embarrassing — it was 'unlawful'

As the Commander-in-Chief, President Donald Trump’s Fox News inspired tweet declaring he has instructed the Navy to “shoot down” Iranian gunboats was embarrassing, and deserving of the mockery it received. Anyone who served in the military, and pretty much anyone at all knows you don’t “shoot...

www.rawstory.com

Not an unlawful order you hopeless dumbass! He's the commander in chief, shitforbrains.

Glenn Kirschner@glennkirschner2



As a former Army JAG, I prosecuted soldiers for military offenses. As a former civilian prosecutor, I spent decades handling murder case. A killing motivated by “harassment” is unlawful. Fortunately, as soldiers we are taught to disobey unlawful orders. Trump is failing.

Hey look everyone, the moron found something in twitter.

That settles it.

 

[my2¢]

His insane antics used to be funny. He’s let the vermin take over for the warmongers.View attachment 326570

If they have gunboats flying near (or over) our ships then, heck yeah, shoot them down.

 

[eagle1462010]

His insane antics used to be funny. He’s let the vermin take over for the warmongers.View attachment 326570

If they have gunboats flying near our ships then, heck yeah, shoot them down.

Maybe there are some Hydrofoils over there too........They kinda fly..........LOL

Pieces of them fly when they get their butts blown up..

 

[okfine]

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's false.

What you wrote is false. You are still distorting the truth.

"When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back."

Sooo...Obama sent them pallets of cash. Exactly like I said.

Now you get to defend Obama for allowing Iran to fund international terrorism.

Whose cash was it again?

You won't get an honest answer. Mention Iran and Obama and this thread goes way out there.

 

[Nostra]

Now you get to defend Obama for allowing Iran to fund international terrorism.

We've been through this. The US was returning frozen assets as part of the negotiation to get Iran to sign the nuclear agreement................also signed by the United Kingdom, Russia, France, and China—plus Germany) and the European Union.
It was well understood they would be at liberty to spend the money the way they wanted. It was a trade-off for them not becoming a nuclear, destabilizing threat to the region.

Iran Nuclear Deal: Debunking the Myths - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

Yep. The worst part of Barry Hussein’s clusterfuck deal........he funded Iranian terrorism and the murder of US servicemen.

 

[Nostra]

Waste them.

You chicken hawks are all alike. What happens after we "waste them" besides you spooging in your shorts?

They sink, dumbass.

 

[okfine]

Ok who else here would love to see these assholes harassing our ships in the Gulf on the Bottom.

The poor Troll doesn't like the fact that if they want to play this game again.......our Navy will waste them.

I vote......if they do it again......put them on the bottom.........Bottom's up..........

Anybody else..........

Surprised Fat Donnie didn't/hasn't blown away Chinese boats. Anytime an incident happens it's war monger mania.

 

[eagle1462010]

Ok who else here would love to see these assholes harassing our ships in the Gulf on the Bottom.

The poor Troll doesn't like the fact that if they want to play this game again.......our Navy will waste them.

I vote......if they do it again......put them on the bottom.........Bottom's up..........

Anybody else..........

Surprised Fat Donnie didn't/hasn't blown away Chinese boats. Anytime an incident happens it's war monger mania.

I served there once with those pecker wood Iranians in their stupid little boats...........

We waited until some our ships took mine hits before wasting them...........We shouldn't wait this time...........

Stupid little speed boats shouldn't play tag with the U.S. Navy unless they want to get Roasted.

You haven't been there when these little pecker woods play these games I'll WAGER.......LOL

They are playing a VERY STUPID GAME.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did Trump just cross the line?????

"Trump Tells Navy To Destroy Iranian Gunboats If They ‘Harass’ American Ships

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he had instructed the U.S. Navy to fire on any Iranian ships that harass it at sea, a week after 11 vessels from Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy (IRGCN) came dangerously close to American ships in the Gulf.

“I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea,” Trump wrote in a tweet, ....While the Navy has the authority to act in self-defense, Trump’s comments appeared to go further and are likely to stoke tensions between Iran and the United States. "

Trump tells Navy to destroy Iranian gunboats if they ‘harass’ American ships | One America News Network

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A reminder....
Barack Obama, the #1 funder of radical Islamic fundamentalism and of the world’s worst state sponsor of terrorism, in the history of the world.

Missiles from Iran, which Obama funded and greenlighted, as he did with IEDs aimed at our soldiers.

Under Hussein Obama, the United States was the lead benefactor of Islamic terrorism

He gave his nod to ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons for 7th century barbarians.

Barack Obama, in addition to slowing the rise of the oceans, also made the world a safer place to be by funding the world’s worst state sponsor of terrorism while not restricting their ballistic missile program and, at the same time, supporting Hezbollah.

The best friend the homicidal maniacs in charge of Iran ever had was Barack Hussein Obama.

The big question about Hussein Obama was always was he Sunni or Shia…and with the Iran deal, we got answer.



Oh...wait!

Hussein doesn't have a phone and a pen any longer........just Netflix.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

"As the Commander-in-Chief, President Donald Trump’s Fox News inspired tweet declaring he has instructed the Navy to “shoot down” Iranian gunboats was embarrassing, and deserving of the mockery it received. Anyone who served in the military, and pretty much anyone at all knows you don’t “shoot down” gunboats."This so called leader is a dangerous person and just has no idea what a "Law and Order President" is."This is not the first time Trump has threatened or issued an unlawful order."

Former Army JAG says Trump's tweet to 'shoot down gunboats' wasn't just embarrassing — it was 'unlawful'

As the Commander-in-Chief, President Donald Trump’s Fox News inspired tweet declaring he has instructed the Navy to “shoot down” Iranian gunboats was embarrassing, and deserving of the mockery it received. Anyone who served in the military, and pretty much anyone at all knows you don’t “shoot...

www.rawstory.com

Not an unlawful order you hopeless dumbass! He's the commander in chief, shitforbrains.

Glenn Kirschner@glennkirschner2



As a former Army JAG, I prosecuted soldiers for military offenses. As a former civilian prosecutor, I spent decades handling murder case. A killing motivated by “harassment” is unlawful. Fortunately, as soldiers we are taught to disobey unlawful orders. Trump is failing.

We are at war with Iran. They declared in 1979.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Did Trump just cross the line?????

"Trump Tells Navy To Destroy Iranian Gunboats If They ‘Harass’ American Ships

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he had instructed the U.S. Navy to fire on any Iranian ships that harass it at sea, a week after 11 vessels from Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy (IRGCN) came dangerously close to American ships in the Gulf.

“I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea,” Trump wrote in a tweet, ....While the Navy has the authority to act in self-defense, Trump’s comments appeared to go further and are likely to stoke tensions between Iran and the United States. "

Trump tells Navy to destroy Iranian gunboats if they ‘harass’ American ships | One America News Network

Breaking News, Latest News and Current News from OANN.com. Breaking news and video. Latest Current News: U.S., World, Entertainment, Health, Business, Technology, Politics, Sports.

www.oann.com

A reminder....
Barack Obama, the #1 funder of radical Islamic fundamentalism and of the world’s worst state sponsor of terrorism, in the history of the world.

Missiles from Iran, which Obama funded and greenlighted, as he did with IEDs aimed at our soldiers.

Under Hussein Obama, the United States was the lead benefactor of Islamic terrorism

He gave his nod to ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons for 7th century barbarians.

Barack Obama, in addition to slowing the rise of the oceans, also made the world a safer place to be by funding the world’s worst state sponsor of terrorism while not restricting their ballistic missile program and, at the same time, supporting Hezbollah.

The best friend the homicidal maniacs in charge of Iran ever had was Barack Hussein Obama.

The big question about Hussein Obama was always was he Sunni or Shia…and with the Iran deal, we got answer.



Oh...wait!

Hussein doesn't have a phone and a pen any longer........just Netflix.

Actually, what Trump tweeted was "Shoot them down". Implying boats could fly.
Hmm..hows pulling out of that Iran nuclear deal working out for us? I remember when Iran was a weekly threat during the Obama administration......wait....nevermind.

 

[lennypartiv]

The timing is good, we can send all the out of work waiters, cooks, and busboys to boot camp and teach them how to shoot radicals from the middle east.

 

[lennypartiv]

Why do lefties hate and fear a president with the balls to confront a terrorist regime. I'm sure Barry would apologize or pay another bribe.

Exactly, a regime with nuclear ambitions should be taught a lesson and never ever be negotiated with.

 

[Bush92]

Trump says he's instructed Navy to 'destroy' any Iranian gunboats harassing US ships

President Trump said Wednesday that he's instructed the U.S. Navy to "shoot down and destroy" any Iranian gunboats harassing American ships, in the wake of a tense encounter in the Persian Gulf.

www.foxnews.com

Destroy them...all they know is brute force. Destroy them and the Chinese. We are in it to win it,; I'm ready to wear in he uniform again and put on my gear! Let's do this fucking thing. I can take out 20 of them cocksuckers before they take me. Good odds.

 

[ElmerMudd]

His insane antics used to be funny. He’s let the vermin take over for the warmongers.View attachment 326570

So you advocate the US NOT engage in self-protection and let Iran do whatever it wants to?

Hmmm.....

I suggest the idiot in chief consult with his generals before sending tweets while he is eating hamburgers, watching Fox and resting his bone spurs.