Stupid Bastard Announces Begining Of Shooting War With Iran

[berg80]

Yeah, Capt. Obvious, shutting down the country/world has that kind of impact.

Did you not notice Russia and the Saudis are conspiring to take a lot of the shale production offline permanently, aside from the demand destruction resulting from the shutdown?

 

[eagle1462010]

Poor choice of words...........but if the Iranians decide to play they can join their other ships at the bottom of the Persian gulf......

We can throw some ALLAH LOVES you cards into the water after we smoke their asses.......

The Virgins await.........LOL......they all look like Rosy Oddonnell..........put a bag over their heads ......ragheads.

 

[berg80]

So you advocate the US NOT engage in self-protection and let Iran do whatever it wants to?

The phrasing of the question completely mis-represents the situation. Must you always be so duplicitous?

 

[bodecea]

His insane antics used to be funny. He’s let the vermin take over for the warmongers.View attachment 326570

"Shoot down"? They fly now?

 

[eagle1462010]

Yeah, Capt. Obvious, shutting down the country/world has that kind of impact.

Did you not notice Russia and the Saudis are conspiring to take a lot of the shale production offline permanently, aside from the demand destruction resulting from the shutdown?

Russians aren't exactly happy about this.............they are getting the screws as well.........

But yes.......our shale producers are getting screwed.....and I'm sure your LIBERAL BUTTl......is soooooooo happy at the lose of job from that........

You SUCK .....You do know that troll.

 

[daveman]

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's false.

What you wrote is false. You are still distorting the truth.

"When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back."

Sooo...Obama sent them pallets of cash. Exactly like I said.

Now you get to defend Obama for allowing Iran to fund international terrorism.

 

[bodecea]

I agree,Let Iran shoot at one of our ships and kill a few Americans before we act.

Why? When we can start a war ourselves WITHOUT provocation. Wheeeeeeeeeee!

 

[bodecea]

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's false.

What you wrote is false. You are still distorting the truth.

"When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back."

Sooo...Obama sent them pallets of cash. Exactly like I said.

Now you get to defend Obama for allowing Iran to fund international terrorism.

Whose cash was it again?

 

[daveman]

So in your idiotic view selfdefence is now offensive?

Self defense (not defence) against what? A couple of Mastercraft's buzzing around not shooting at anything? You folks have lost all sense of judgement because............................Orange Fraud.

Yes, because remember, kids, small craft piloted by Islamic extremists are utterly harmless.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[eagle1462010]

Ok.......now we know the rest of the story..............

Waste them.

 

[daveman]

His insane antics used to be funny. He’s let the vermin take over for the warmongers.View attachment 326570

"shoot down --- gunboats" does the idiot think gunboats fly?

Maybe he thinks they're full of dog-faced pony soldiers.

 

[berg80]

Now you get to defend Obama for allowing Iran to fund international terrorism.

We've been through this. The US was returning frozen assets as part of the negotiation to get Iran to sign the nuclear agreement................also signed by the United Kingdom, Russia, France, and China—plus Germany) and the European Union.
It was well understood they would be at liberty to spend the money the way they wanted. It was a trade-off for them not becoming a nuclear, destabilizing threat to the region.

Iran Nuclear Deal: Debunking the Myths - Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation

 

[berg80]

Waste them.

You chicken hawks are all alike. What happens after we "waste them" besides you spooging in your shorts?

 

[irosie91]

yes----that was the stated "logic" The whole program was/is lousy

 

[Markle]

"When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back."

There were $5+ BILLION dollars in cash, loaded on pallets into aircraft, and flown to Iran. The $150 BILLION released to them was their money held to settle claims from Iran having held our hostages for 444 days during the failed administration of President Jimmy Carter. There was nothing of any significance gained by releasing the money but some of it was used to further terrorism around the world.

 

[eagle1462010]

Waste them.

You chicken hawks are all alike. What happens after we "waste them" besides you spooging in your shorts?

STFU troll....I served over there the last time this shit happened.

Reminds me of what happened to them then............Should we tell them were to be so they join their other ships at the bottome.......make a BETTER REEF for the fish.

 

[daveman]

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's false.

What you wrote is false. You are still distorting the truth.

"When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back."

Sooo...Obama sent them pallets of cash. Exactly like I said.

Now you get to defend Obama for allowing Iran to fund international terrorism.

Whose cash was it again?

Doesn't matter, really. Iran killed innocent people with it.

Funny how you leftists believe Iran should spend its money how it wants, but you also believe you should have a say in how I spend my money.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Those who think that Trump was just shooting off his big mouth in a tweet after watching the Fox TV report on Iran this morning, and that he really doesn’t want a war with Iran at this point may be correct.

But even assuming this is true, his tweet gives cover for any commander (already with extensive authority to take action based on their own judgement of threat) to interpret all sorts of ostensible “harassment” as an excuse to “destroy” Iranian ships. Which of course would lead the Iranians to retaliate. All U.S. naval vessels in the Gulf are vulnerable to Iranian land-based missiles. Forget torpedos and rockets launched from fast moving ships. The tweet was — in the best case — dangerous posturing.

Of course there are powerful interests that have long wanted war with Iran. Elements in the Military-Industrial complex, the Israelis, U.S. Oil interests now fed up with Saudi unwillingness to cut production to zero to raise oil prices, imperialist geo-strategists who know a war in the Gulf will hurt China most, etc.

Trump probably does not personally want a war (it may hurt his election prospects), but he has doubled the number of our troop and navy personel in the Gulf, and by unilaterally tearing up the international agreements with Iran and killing the Iranian #2 leader, he has set the stage for a bloody and unnecessary catastrophe.

REMEMBER THE GULF OF TONKIN. The stakes in Vietnam were mainly ideological and based on our desire not to “lose face” in the Cold War. We always want to be the “tough guy.” But the U.S. had no business or real national interest fighting that war. Our real interest would have led us to work with the nationalist HoChiMinh from the earliest days of his struggle against French colonialism, to encourage him to take a line like Tito (which he certainly was open to).

Obama was right that we need to take a giant step back from taking sides in the Sunni/Shia Saudi/Iranian divide. Trump must act and not just talk about stopping “endless wars” in the Middle East. The oil in Syria belongs to Syrians, not us. We ought to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan ASAP. We should stop our own provocations in the Gulf, and withdraw our navy buildup. We should express our willingness to re-enter and renegotiate our treaty obligations with Iran. In light of the Coronavirus pandemic, we should end secondary sanctions against countries that wish to buy oil from Iran immediately, ending especially our abuse of supposedly neutral and private SWIFT banking communication systems which prevent even crucial medical trade with Iran.

Our own disgust with the Iranian regime is shared by many Iranians, but our policies leave little room for opening breeches in the Iranian political system through which Iranian pro-democratic patriots can pour themselves to overthrow the theocracy.

Given the geo-political reality and the powerful dark interests who actually are willing to gamble on war, nobody should believe anything they read or hear about the U.S. being “harassed.” In any case, none of this is an excuse for starting a shooting war!

Iran is in desperate shape and its theocratic regime has been driven into a corner. But the U.S. is not threatened by Iran, just as we were not threatened by our old ally Saddam or by HoChiMinh. The U.S. is now carrying out de facto extraordinary war sanctions against Iran and may bring bloody destruction upon them in the near future, entirely disrupting oil shipments from the Persian Gulf. This will — very conveniently for the U.S. empire — raise oil prices to save our otherwise non-competitive already bankrupt domestic fracking and export oil industry, and hurt China (and virtually all our competitors other than Russia).

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

His insane antics used to be funny. He’s let the vermin take over for the warmongers.View attachment 326570

SHOOT DOWN???? Do the Iranians have flying gunboats now? Are there pictures?

Shooting down...into the ocean. Canadians and military tactics don't mix. Shut your mouth as this has zero to do with you and your gimpy knee.