Stop persecuting doctors for legitimately prescribing opioids for chronic pain

[martybegan]

Once again the innocent majority suffer because of the few bad apples.

That's an interesting way to put it. But I don't think the bad apples are the problem. The problem is people who want to control their neighbors with government.

True, it is the effort to stop the bad apples that is the problem. Hell, to buy Allegra D in my state is more restrictive than buying a gun thanks to people using it to make Meth. I have been turned away from buying it, being told I bought it too often. I was like "I have a family of 4 people taking this, a 20 pack of 12 hour pills does not last very long"...I was told "another adult family member will have to buy it".

For me it's sudafed. at the start of allergy season I need to take them or I get a Sinus infection that devolves into an ear infection.

The replacement sudafeds don't do crap for me.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Once again the innocent majority suffer because of the few bad apples.

That's an interesting way to put it. But I don't think the bad apples are the problem. The problem is people who want to control their neighbors with government.

True, it is the effort to stop the bad apples that is the problem. Hell, to buy Allegra D in my state is more restrictive than buying a gun thanks to people using it to make Meth. I have been turned away from buying it, being told I bought it too often. I was like "I have a family of 4 people taking this, a 20 pack of 12 hour pills does not last very long"...I was told "another adult family member will have to buy it".

For me it's sudafed. at the start of allergy season I need to take them or I get a Sinus infection that devolves into an ear infection.

The replacement sudafeds don't do crap for me.

It is insane that we are restricted because of the criminals. Seems the wrong people are being punished.

 

[martybegan]

Once again the innocent majority suffer because of the few bad apples.

That's an interesting way to put it. But I don't think the bad apples are the problem. The problem is people who want to control their neighbors with government.

True, it is the effort to stop the bad apples that is the problem. Hell, to buy Allegra D in my state is more restrictive than buying a gun thanks to people using it to make Meth. I have been turned away from buying it, being told I bought it too often. I was like "I have a family of 4 people taking this, a 20 pack of 12 hour pills does not last very long"...I was told "another adult family member will have to buy it".

For me it's sudafed. at the start of allergy season I need to take them or I get a Sinus infection that devolves into an ear infection.

The replacement sudafeds don't do crap for me.

It is insane that we are restricted because of the criminals. Seems the wrong people are being punished.

The funny thing is they could accomplish the same limits by limiting the # of boxes on the shelf to say 12 or so, but that makes too much sense.

 

[bripat9643]

Why can't people just suck it up?

You're another imbecile drug warrior, aren't you? When I had metal braces screwed into my writes, do you think I should have just "sucked it up?"

Numerous studies have found that non-opioid alternatives are just as, if not more effective in treating pain. There is no doubt that there are instances where it is warranted, but to use your hyper-emotional anecdotal example as why opioids should be prescribed in the numbers it is.

Bullshit. No one who has been prescribed opioids believes an advil works just as good.

 

[bripat9643]

Why can't people just suck it up?

You're another imbecile drug warrior, aren't you? When I had metal braces screwed into my writes, do you think I should have just "sucked it up?"

Numerous studies have found that non-opioid alternatives are just as, if not more effective in treating pain. There is no doubt that there are instances where it is warranted, but to use your hyper-emotional anecdotal example as why opioids should be prescribed in the numbers it is.

I believe the doctor and the patient need to discuss treatments and come to a conclusion, the government should not be in the business of prescribing treatments for pain.

Drug warriors are responsible for this new policy, and they view opioids as evil. They are goose steppers and utterly irrational.

 

[martybegan]

Why can't people just suck it up?

You're another imbecile drug warrior, aren't you? When I had metal braces screwed into my writes, do you think I should have just "sucked it up?"

Numerous studies have found that non-opioid alternatives are just as, if not more effective in treating pain. There is no doubt that there are instances where it is warranted, but to use your hyper-emotional anecdotal example as why opioids should be prescribed in the numbers it is.

Bullshit. No one who has been prescribed opioids believes an advil works just as good.

and to my tylenol is even more worthless.

While waiting for a root canal appointment I had to resort to Whiskey, which works better than any over the counter pain reliever.

 

[dblack]

Once again the innocent majority suffer because of the few bad apples.

That's an interesting way to put it. But I don't think the bad apples are the problem. The problem is people who want to control their neighbors with government.

True, it is the effort to stop the bad apples that is the problem. Hell, to buy Allegra D in my state is more restrictive than buying a gun thanks to people using it to make Meth. I have been turned away from buying it, being told I bought it too often. I was like "I have a family of 4 people taking this, a 20 pack of 12 hour pills does not last very long"...I was told "another adult family member will have to buy it".

For me it's sudafed. at the start of allergy season I need to take them or I get a Sinus infection that devolves into an ear infection.

The replacement sudafeds don't do crap for me.

It is insane that we are restricted because of the criminals. Seems the wrong people are being punished.

But why should anyone be punished? The problem is that we've created these completely arbitrary "crimes" in the first place.

 

[BlindBoo]

Why can't people just suck it up?

If you crush it really fine, I think you can with a straw. Probably burns like hell.

If you mean pain, opium and it's derivatives are a miracle to those who suffer from severe sciatica, like my wife. With Vicodin she can walk normally, without it she is a virtual cripple. Been on a maintenance dose for 12 years now. The State is definitely intimidating doctors.

 

[BlindBoo]

I agree 100%. This jihad against opioids is causing a lot of people to suffer. I had a very painful condition about a year ago and the doctor prescribed some foul tasting ointment to coat the back of my tongue with that didn't do a thing. He told me he couldn't prescribe anything that actually worked because he would have the feds down his back.

There's nobody I despise more than a drug warrior. They have done more damage to this country than an all out nuclear exchange.

Stop persecuting docs for legitimately prescribing opioids for chronic pain

Even as rates of opioid prescribing dropped by 25% between 2011 and 2017, opioid overdose deaths continued to rise.

It is time for Congress to direct the CDC to withdraw its guideline for a ground-up rewrite by an agency like the NIH or FDA that actually knows what it is doing. Likewise, the Veterans Health Administration must be directed to withdraw its closely related “Opioid Safety Initiative.” Veterans tell me that medical practice standards embedded in the initiative are driving vets to suicide by denying them treatment with opioid pain relievers. Finally, the DEA must be told to stand down and stop persecuting doctors who are legitimately prescribing opioids to their patients with chronic pain for “over-prescribing,” something for which no agency has yet created an accepted definition.

There ought to be a law … and I volunteer to help write it. AMA Resolution 235 (described earlier) must become mandatory policy for all federal health care and law enforcement agencies: the CDC, FDA, NIH, DEA, VA, the National institute on Drug Abuse, and the Department of Justice, to name just a few. Then state-level drug regulators and law enforcement need to be informed of the policy change — pointedly.

It is time to end the madness!​

It is a fact that opioids are over prescribed and has fueled an epidemic of heroin use not seen since the 70's. Doctors were initially sued for NOT prescribing opioids, which gave rise to the incredible surge in prescriptions seen since 2000.

While I agree, doctors should be free to determine the best treatment options for their patients, it is a two way street.

The rise is not the fault of those suffer from pain.

Fentanyl and fentanyl laced heroin are the major cause of the rising death rate due to opioids that they are trying to scare us with, not prescriptions like Vicodin for people who are in pain.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Once again the innocent majority suffer because of the few bad apples.

That's an interesting way to put it. But I don't think the bad apples are the problem. The problem is people who want to control their neighbors with government.

True, it is the effort to stop the bad apples that is the problem. Hell, to buy Allegra D in my state is more restrictive than buying a gun thanks to people using it to make Meth. I have been turned away from buying it, being told I bought it too often. I was like "I have a family of 4 people taking this, a 20 pack of 12 hour pills does not last very long"...I was told "another adult family member will have to buy it".

For me it's sudafed. at the start of allergy season I need to take them or I get a Sinus infection that devolves into an ear infection.

The replacement sudafeds don't do crap for me.

It is insane that we are restricted because of the criminals. Seems the wrong people are being punished.

But why should anyone be punished? The problem is that we've created these completely arbitrary "crimes" in the first place.

is making Meth and selling it an arbitrary crime?

 

[dblack]

That's an interesting way to put it. But I don't think the bad apples are the problem. The problem is people who want to control their neighbors with government.

True, it is the effort to stop the bad apples that is the problem. Hell, to buy Allegra D in my state is more restrictive than buying a gun thanks to people using it to make Meth. I have been turned away from buying it, being told I bought it too often. I was like "I have a family of 4 people taking this, a 20 pack of 12 hour pills does not last very long"...I was told "another adult family member will have to buy it".

For me it's sudafed. at the start of allergy season I need to take them or I get a Sinus infection that devolves into an ear infection.

The replacement sudafeds don't do crap for me.

It is insane that we are restricted because of the criminals. Seems the wrong people are being punished.

But why should anyone be punished? The problem is that we've created these completely arbitrary "crimes" in the first place.

is making Meth and selling it an arbitrary crime?

Yes. No one's rights are being violated if someone makes meth, or if someone else buys it. You might argue (and I'd agree) that those using meth aren't doing themselves any favors, but that's their call.

 

[bripat9643]

Once again the innocent majority suffer because of the few bad apples.

That's an interesting way to put it. But I don't think the bad apples are the problem. The problem is people who want to control their neighbors with government.

True, it is the effort to stop the bad apples that is the problem. Hell, to buy Allegra D in my state is more restrictive than buying a gun thanks to people using it to make Meth. I have been turned away from buying it, being told I bought it too often. I was like "I have a family of 4 people taking this, a 20 pack of 12 hour pills does not last very long"...I was told "another adult family member will have to buy it".

i used to have the same problem with Claritan D.

 

[Rocko]

I agree 100%. This jihad against opioids is causing a lot of people to suffer. I had a very painful condition about a year ago and the doctor prescribed some foul tasting ointment to coat the back of my tongue with that didn't do a thing. He told me he couldn't prescribe anything that actually worked because he would have the feds down his back.

There's nobody I despise more than a drug warrior. They have done more damage to this country than an all out nuclear exchange.

Stop persecuting docs for legitimately prescribing opioids for chronic pain

Even as rates of opioid prescribing dropped by 25% between 2011 and 2017, opioid overdose deaths continued to rise.

It is time for Congress to direct the CDC to withdraw its guideline for a ground-up rewrite by an agency like the NIH or FDA that actually knows what it is doing. Likewise, the Veterans Health Administration must be directed to withdraw its closely related “Opioid Safety Initiative.” Veterans tell me that medical practice standards embedded in the initiative are driving vets to suicide by denying them treatment with opioid pain relievers. Finally, the DEA must be told to stand down and stop persecuting doctors who are legitimately prescribing opioids to their patients with chronic pain for “over-prescribing,” something for which no agency has yet created an accepted definition.

There ought to be a law … and I volunteer to help write it. AMA Resolution 235 (described earlier) must become mandatory policy for all federal health care and law enforcement agencies: the CDC, FDA, NIH, DEA, VA, the National institute on Drug Abuse, and the Department of Justice, to name just a few. Then state-level drug regulators and law enforcement need to be informed of the policy change — pointedly.

It is time to end the madness!​

It is a fact that opioids are over prescribed and has fueled an epidemic of heroin use not seen since the 70's. Doctors were initially sued for NOT prescribing opioids, which gave rise to the incredible surge in prescriptions seen since 2000.

While I agree, doctors should be free to determine the best treatment options for their patients, it is a two way street.

The rise is not the fault of those suffer from pain.

Fentanyl and fentanyl laced heroin are the major cause of the rising death rate due to opioids that they are trying to scare us with, not prescriptions like Vicodin for people who are in pain.

I was drugged with Fentanyl before having a colonoscopy. It knocked me out. I didn’t even remember anything. I have no idea why anyone would want to take something like that recreationally.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

True, it is the effort to stop the bad apples that is the problem. Hell, to buy Allegra D in my state is more restrictive than buying a gun thanks to people using it to make Meth. I have been turned away from buying it, being told I bought it too often. I was like "I have a family of 4 people taking this, a 20 pack of 12 hour pills does not last very long"...I was told "another adult family member will have to buy it".

For me it's sudafed. at the start of allergy season I need to take them or I get a Sinus infection that devolves into an ear infection.

The replacement sudafeds don't do crap for me.

It is insane that we are restricted because of the criminals. Seems the wrong people are being punished.

But why should anyone be punished? The problem is that we've created these completely arbitrary "crimes" in the first place.

is making Meth and selling it an arbitrary crime?

Yes. No one's rights are being violated if someone makes meth, or if someone else buys it. You might argue (and I'd agree) that those using meth aren't doing themselves any favors, but that's their call.

you do make a compelling point.

 

[BlindBoo]

True, it is the effort to stop the bad apples that is the problem. Hell, to buy Allegra D in my state is more restrictive than buying a gun thanks to people using it to make Meth. I have been turned away from buying it, being told I bought it too often. I was like "I have a family of 4 people taking this, a 20 pack of 12 hour pills does not last very long"...I was told "another adult family member will have to buy it".

For me it's sudafed. at the start of allergy season I need to take them or I get a Sinus infection that devolves into an ear infection.

The replacement sudafeds don't do crap for me.

It is insane that we are restricted because of the criminals. Seems the wrong people are being punished.

But why should anyone be punished? The problem is that we've created these completely arbitrary "crimes" in the first place.

is making Meth and selling it an arbitrary crime?

Yes. No one's rights are being violated if someone makes meth, or if someone else buys it. You might argue (and I'd agree) that those using meth aren't doing themselves any favors, but that's their call.

Well they should be paying sale tax on the transaction at least.

I agree 100%. This jihad against opioids is causing a lot of people to suffer. I had a very painful condition about a year ago and the doctor prescribed some foul tasting ointment to coat the back of my tongue with that didn't do a thing. He told me he couldn't prescribe anything that actually worked because he would have the feds down his back.

There's nobody I despise more than a drug warrior. They have done more damage to this country than an all out nuclear exchange.

Stop persecuting docs for legitimately prescribing opioids for chronic pain

Even as rates of opioid prescribing dropped by 25% between 2011 and 2017, opioid overdose deaths continued to rise.

It is time for Congress to direct the CDC to withdraw its guideline for a ground-up rewrite by an agency like the NIH or FDA that actually knows what it is doing. Likewise, the Veterans Health Administration must be directed to withdraw its closely related “Opioid Safety Initiative.” Veterans tell me that medical practice standards embedded in the initiative are driving vets to suicide by denying them treatment with opioid pain relievers. Finally, the DEA must be told to stand down and stop persecuting doctors who are legitimately prescribing opioids to their patients with chronic pain for “over-prescribing,” something for which no agency has yet created an accepted definition.

There ought to be a law … and I volunteer to help write it. AMA Resolution 235 (described earlier) must become mandatory policy for all federal health care and law enforcement agencies: the CDC, FDA, NIH, DEA, VA, the National institute on Drug Abuse, and the Department of Justice, to name just a few. Then state-level drug regulators and law enforcement need to be informed of the policy change — pointedly.

It is time to end the madness!​

It is a fact that opioids are over prescribed and has fueled an epidemic of heroin use not seen since the 70's. Doctors were initially sued for NOT prescribing opioids, which gave rise to the incredible surge in prescriptions seen since 2000.

While I agree, doctors should be free to determine the best treatment options for their patients, it is a two way street.

The rise is not the fault of those suffer from pain.

Fentanyl and fentanyl laced heroin are the major cause of the rising death rate due to opioids that they are trying to scare us with, not prescriptions like Vicodin for people who are in pain.

I was drugged with Fentanyl before having a colonoscopy. It knocked me out. I didn’t even remember anything. I have no idea why anyone would want to take something like that recreationally.

Never had it. I had a morphine pump after and emergency appendectomy, only in the hospital. That was 25 years ago and I got 2 months worth of the extra strength Vicodin with no problem and then some of the lesser strength after that.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I had surgery on the bones and nerves in my right foot. Actually three separate surgeries. I got zip. Nothing. I had more than one doctor and none would give me anything. The most I got was when the pain was the most excruciating the doc shot in some novocaine.

I white knuckled it for seven months until the pain lessened and it still hurts sometimes. If I can go without pain meds after nerve and bone surgery. Three of them. Anyone can do it.

 

[bodecea]

Why can't people just suck it up?

You're another imbecile drug warrior, aren't you? When I had metal braces screwed into my writes, do you think I should have just "sucked it up?"

No...I'm just a person who doesn't like to take drugs for any reason....granted, I only speak for myself....but I DO suck it up.

 

[bodecea]

Rethinking this...the OP should get as many opioids as he wants.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why can't people just suck it up?

You're another imbecile drug warrior, aren't you? When I had metal braces screwed into my writes, do you think I should have just "sucked it up?"

Numerous studies have found that non-opioid alternatives are just as, if not more effective in treating pain. There is no doubt that there are instances where it is warranted, but to use your hyper-emotional anecdotal example as why opioids should be prescribed in the numbers it is.

I believe the doctor and the patient need to discuss treatments and come to a conclusion, the government should not be in the business of prescribing treatments for pain.

Drug warriors are responsible for this new policy, and they view opioids as evil. They are goose steppers and utterly irrational.

No. It's the proponents of legalized drugs that have done this. If they can't have free heroin no one should have pain meds.

 

[Manonthestreet]

I agree 100%. This jihad against opioids is causing a lot of people to suffer. I had a very painful condition about a year ago and the doctor prescribed some foul tasting ointment to coat the back of my tongue with that didn't do a thing. He told me he couldn't prescribe anything that actually worked because he would have the feds down his back.

There's nobody I despise more than a drug warrior. They have done more damage to this country than an all out nuclear exchange.

Stop persecuting docs for legitimately prescribing opioids for chronic pain

Even as rates of opioid prescribing dropped by 25% between 2011 and 2017, opioid overdose deaths continued to rise.

It is time for Congress to direct the CDC to withdraw its guideline for a ground-up rewrite by an agency like the NIH or FDA that actually knows what it is doing. Likewise, the Veterans Health Administration must be directed to withdraw its closely related “Opioid Safety Initiative.” Veterans tell me that medical practice standards embedded in the initiative are driving vets to suicide by denying them treatment with opioid pain relievers. Finally, the DEA must be told to stand down and stop persecuting doctors who are legitimately prescribing opioids to their patients with chronic pain for “over-prescribing,” something for which no agency has yet created an accepted definition.

There ought to be a law … and I volunteer to help write it. AMA Resolution 235 (described earlier) must become mandatory policy for all federal health care and law enforcement agencies: the CDC, FDA, NIH, DEA, VA, the National institute on Drug Abuse, and the Department of Justice, to name just a few. Then state-level drug regulators and law enforcement need to be informed of the policy change — pointedly.

It is time to end the madness!​

Some of us tried to warn people............ This came out of nowhere and penetrated right down to all the local Newsies with nobody asking questions......well I've got one....who is profiting from it