Statistics, God and Estimating

Take a look at the video of the cell I posted. There are thousands of organelles doing specific actions. IMO that certainly depicts intellect and programming not happenstance.
The vast majority of biologists would probably disagree. It is billions of years of evolution and evolution is NOT happenstance. E coli can divide in 20 minutes so I'll let you do the math:
3 x 24 x 365 x 1,000,000,000 = a lot of opportunity to evolve
 
Look at the workings of one living cell and explain how that happened by accident. (Added video)



Simple, right Godless Leftists? All you need is water dripping on rocks and voila! Life arises, to form tens of thousands of animals and humans..
 
The vast majority of biologists would probably disagree. It is billions of years of evolution and evolution is NOT happenstance. E coli can divide in 20 minutes so I'll let you do the math:
3 x 24 x 365 x 1,000,000,000 = a lot of opportunity to evolve
Biologists deal with cell life, not the creation of life. Before life there could be no evolution. Elements do not organize themselves into a living cell, they need to be programmed to do that.

Look at it this way, if we give all the elements of a living cell to a biologist, could he reassemble it into a living cell? So far, the answer is no. We also cannot take recently dead cell, with all its components and bring it back to life.

Some of the elements in a living cell do not live long enough to take advantage of 'billions of years.'
 
Simple, right Godless Leftists? All you need is water dripping on rocks and voila! Life arises, to form tens of thousands of animals and humans..
Yeah, I know. What's funny is that atheists imagine themselves to be so logical when it comes to refuting God but they go into fantasy land where elements just magically create life. That is no less a belief than the belief in a Creator.
 
Simple, right Godless Leftists? All you need is water dripping on rocks and voila! Life arises, to form tens of thousands of animals and humans..
And other life forms, such as plants and even bacteria, mold, and fungus.
 
One way I look at it is that we are all part of a life ocean and our time as physical beings is like a wave.
 
One way I look at it is that we are all part of a life ocean and our time as physical beings is like a wave.
I have come to see life on Earth as a waypoint of our journey through Gods complex worlds.
Atheists of this forum give it a hell of a try, but they can't get rid of GOD.
 
Biologists deal with cell life, not the creation of life. Before life there could be no evolution. Elements do not organize themselves into a living cell, they need to be programmed to do that.

Look at it this way, if we give all the elements of a living cell to a biologist, could he reassemble it into a living cell? So far, the answer is no. We also cannot take recently dead cell, with all its components and bring it back to life.

Some of the elements in a living cell do not live long enough to take advantage of 'billions of years.'
Is this life?

Self-replicating molecules are functional units capable of creating copies of themselves, acting as fundamental precursors to life by bridging chemistry and biology. These systems, including RNA, short peptides, and synthetic polymers, often use template-directed assembly, where a molecule guides the organization of building blocks into an identical copy. They demonstrate evolutionary capabilities, such as competing for resources, diversifying, and adapting.

Examples and Types of Self-Replicating Molecules
  • RNA Molecules: Specifically, ribozymes, which can catalyze the assembly of their own structure through RNA-catalyzed RNA ligation, as shown with the R3C ligase ribozyme.
  • Short Peptides/Organic Molecules: Simple systems consisting of benzene rings with thiol arms, which can form disulfide bonds to self-replicate.
  • Synthetic Polymers: Including hyperbranched polyethylenimine (HyPEI) and glycerol citrate polymer-supported zinc sulfide (ZnS) nanocrystals.
  • Supramolecular Assemblies: Cylindrical stacks of nucleobases and amino acids that can act as templates for assembling new, identical structures.

    How They Work (Mechanism)
  • Autocatalysis: The newly created molecule catalyzes the formation of more of itself, accelerating the process.
  • Template-Directed Ligation: A molecule acts as a template, bringing together smaller precursor fragments to create a copy.
  • Molecular Recognition: Building blocks recognize and align with the parent molecule through hydrogen bonding or other intermolecular forces, often forming complementary strands that later separate.

Role in the Origin of Life
Self-replicating molecules are central to the "RNA world" hypothesis, suggesting that simple self-copying molecules preceded the complex DNA-protein life forms existing today. These molecules could have emerged in early Earth environments, such as geothermal vents, allowing for natural selection to occur at the molecular level, where more efficient replicators (those with higher "fitness") became more common.

Key Findings on Early Evolution
  • Emergence of Metabolism: Recent studies have shown that self-replicating molecules can exhibit behaviors similar to primitive metabolism.
  • Competition and Selection: Different types of self-replicating molecules (e.g., hexamers vs. octameric rings) can compete for the same building blocks, with the environment dictating which type survives.
  • Minimal Requirements: Research suggests that very simple molecules, rather than complex ones, might have been the first to self-replicate.
 
I have come to see life on Earth as a waypoint of our journey through Gods complex worlds.
Atheists of this forum give it a hell of a try, but they can't get rid of GOD.
Yes, they deny God or a creator yet they give the power of creating life to elements just arranging themselves into lifeforms. They never answer just why. Why do electrons act the way they do?
Is this life?

Self-replicating molecules are functional units capable of creating copies of themselves, acting as fundamental precursors to life by bridging chemistry and biology. These systems, including RNA, short peptides, and synthetic polymers, often use template-directed assembly, where a molecule guides the organization of building blocks into an identical copy. They demonstrate evolutionary capabilities, such as competing for resources, diversifying, and adapting.

Examples and Types of Self-Replicating Molecules
  • RNA Molecules: Specifically, ribozymes, which can catalyze the assembly of their own structure through RNA-catalyzed RNA ligation, as shown with the R3C ligase ribozyme.
  • Short Peptides/Organic Molecules: Simple systems consisting of benzene rings with thiol arms, which can form disulfide bonds to self-replicate.
  • Synthetic Polymers: Including hyperbranched polyethylenimine (HyPEI) and glycerol citrate polymer-supported zinc sulfide (ZnS) nanocrystals.
  • Supramolecular Assemblies: Cylindrical stacks of nucleobases and amino acids that can act as templates for assembling new, identical structures.

    How They Work (Mechanism)
  • Autocatalysis: The newly created molecule catalyzes the formation of more of itself, accelerating the process.
  • Template-Directed Ligation: A molecule acts as a template, bringing together smaller precursor fragments to create a copy.
  • Molecular Recognition: Building blocks recognize and align with the parent molecule through hydrogen bonding or other intermolecular forces, often forming complementary strands that later separate.

Role in the Origin of Life
Self-replicating molecules are central to the "RNA world" hypothesis, suggesting that simple self-copying molecules preceded the complex DNA-protein life forms existing today. These molecules could have emerged in early Earth environments, such as geothermal vents, allowing for natural selection to occur at the molecular level, where more efficient replicators (those with higher "fitness") became more common.

Key Findings on Early Evolution
  • Emergence of Metabolism: Recent studies have shown that self-replicating molecules can exhibit behaviors similar to primitive metabolism.
  • Competition and Selection: Different types of self-replicating molecules (e.g., hexamers vs. octameric rings) can compete for the same building blocks, with the environment dictating which type survives.
  • Minimal Requirements: Research suggests that very simple molecules, rather than complex ones, might have been the first to self-replicate.

They used existing cells and inserted synthetic DNA. There are probably thousands more of organelles in that cell that were not synthetic. Life has never been created completely from nonliving chemicals.
 
Life has never been created completely from nonliving chemicals.

Oh boy, here we go with the clueless creationist bullshit again.

Doofus, look around. What do you see? ALL LIFE EVERYWHERE was created completely from nonliving chemicals. There isn't any other kind.

What did you think life was created from? Green cheese?

You people don't realize how stupid you sound sometimes. Here's a hint: it always happens when you try to claim scientific validity.
 
They used existing cells and inserted synthetic DNA. There are probably thousands more of organelles in that cell that were not synthetic. Life has never been created completely from nonliving chemicals.
Self-replicating molecules are the key. If a molecule can grow and break apart and repeat that indefinitely, is it alive? It may be subject to the laws of evolution and given time, that may be how it all started. The key is time and there was a abundance of that.
 
Self-replicating molecules are the key. If a molecule can grow and break apart and repeat that indefinitely, is it alive? It may be subject to the laws of evolution and given time, that may be how it all started. The key is time and there was a abundance of that.

That's too complicated for people who have a reason to deny the evidence.

There were 2000 gene duplication events before humans existed. 2^2000 is a huge number.
 
No. You're conflating two very different things. The first is that the universe exists, obviously, but was it created by an intelligence is the question. I don't know the answer, hence I'm agnostic. The second is what we call God, a force/entity/being/etc., an intelligence that is credited in scripture/myth/etc., with taking an interest in the affairs of man. I've looked and studied this God and am 100% convinced he/she/it does not exist and never did, hence I'm an atheist.
Thas called animism. Belief or non belief is not fact but a choice
 
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Oh boy, here we go with the clueless creationist bullshit again.

Doofus, look around. What do you see? ALL LIFE EVERYWHERE was created completely from nonliving chemicals. There isn't any other kind.

What did you think life was created from? Green cheese?

You people don't realize how stupid you sound sometimes. Here's a hint: it always happens when you try to claim scientific validity.
One massive power created life from nonliving chemicals. GOD
 
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