State Indicator That MAGA Governing Is A Failure: State Results From Unanimous Consensus

[Hafar1014]

WRONG! Things cost a lot when there are more people who want something and less of it available.

California costs a lot because so many people want to live there. It's land cost is outrageous, even though it is huge, because of the demand to be there. People commute long drives just to live there.

Oklahoma is cheap because very few people want to live there.

Cost is a reflection of success. Low cost of living is a reflection of failure. Oklahoma is a failing state and has low cost of living. California and Massachusetts have high costs of living reflecting their success.

I normally charge for economics tutoring but I'll let you off this one time.

Things cost a lot when Biden created the worst inflation in 40 years. So why are democrat cities and states losing population? They cant afford to live there

 

[struth]

WRONG! Things cost a lot when there are more people who want something and less of it available.

California costs a lot because so many people want to live there. It's land cost is outrageous, even though it is huge, because of the demand to be there. People commute long drives just to live there.

Oklahoma is cheap because very few people want to live there.

Cost is a reflection of success. Low cost of living is a reflection of failure. Oklahoma is a failing state and has low cost of living. California and Massachusetts have high costs of living reflecting their success.

I normally charge for economics tutoring but I'll let you off this one time.

No, really taxation cost


This is why businesses and people are fleeing

1/3 of Californians income is taken by taxes, that doesn’t include gas, sales and personal property, real estate and corp taxes

 

[citygator]

7 of the 10 worst economies are in states run by Democrats, report says

A report on the fiscal health of all 50 states showed that seven out of the 10 worst economies are in states run and led by Democrats. Truth in Accounting (TIA), a nonprofit providing economic information about the government to citizens, ranked Connecticut, New Jersey, Illinois, Hawaii...

news4sanantonio.com

Right wing "ranking" that from a source considered unreliable. Try again.

• Ties to Conservative Networks: Watchdog groups like SourceWatch and InfluenceWatch identify TIA as a right-wing 501(c)3 non-profit. They note TIA's affiliation with the State Policy Network (SPN), a web of right-wing think tanks, and the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). TIA has received funding from organizations associated with conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch.
• Methodology and Tone: TIA's reports have an "alarmist tone" and use a methodology that frames future obligations in a way that creates high "taxpayer burden" figures, which some view as an attempt to pressure legislators to cut public employee benefits. For example, TIA calculates total unfunded liabilities (e.g., total pension debt) rather than just the annual required payments, a method some economists argue is an inappropriate comparison to a household budget and contributes to the perception of bias.

 

[forkup]

I made this very point to citygator.

His response was to pretend to be too retarded to understand it.


He accused me of claiming that poor results mean success... which had nothing to do with anything I said.


Your error is taking him seriously and addressing his point seriously.

He is just here to spam negs.




So, instead of voting for hte "capitalist", we should have voted for someone like citygator who hates us with a fiery passion?

I rolled the dice with Trump and so far, I am LOVING, the results.

Not for nothing Correll but nothing in my experience with you has convinced me that you aren't simply everything you accuse Gator off but in reverse. That's fine, I've long since given up on expecting anything different from the people on here. That doesn't mean I'm never surprised, just that having a reaonable discussion is so rare it becomes a statistical anamoly.

But I'm here for those anamolies, and as such I will take any premise at face value. At least initially. And when I encounter sloppy reasoning, be it from people I agree or disagree with Ideoligically I will call that out.

 

[Hafar1014]

Right wing "ranking" that from a source considered unreliable. Try again.

• Ties to Conservative Networks: Watchdog groups like SourceWatch and InfluenceWatch identify TIA as a right-wing 501(c)3 non-profit. They note TIA's affiliation with the State Policy Network (SPN), a web of right-wing think tanks, and the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). TIA has received funding from organizations associated with conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch.
• Methodology and Tone: TIA's reports have an "alarmist tone" and use a methodology that frames future obligations in a way that creates high "taxpayer burden" figures, which some view as an attempt to pressure legislators to cut public employee benefits. For example, TIA calculates total unfunded liabilities (e.g., total pension debt) rather than just the annual required payments, a method some economists argue is an inappropriate comparison to a household budget and contributes to the perception of bias.

The census is the truth democrats cities and states losing population moving to red states.

 

[Correll]

Not for nothing Correll but nothing in my experience with you has convinced me that you aren't simply everything you accuse Gator off but in reverse. That's fine, I've long since given up on expecting anything different from the people on here. That doesn't mean I'm never surprised, just that having a reaonable discussion is so rare it becomes a statistical anamoly.

I never play stupid to dodge someone else's point.

Indeed, I never try to derail a thread into stupid shit, to dodge a point.


If you can't tell the difference between me and that, that is an issue on YOUR end.

But I'm here for those anamolies, and as such I will take any premise at face value. At least initially. And when I encounter sloppy reasoning, be it from people I agree or disagree with Ideoligically I will call that out.

Good luck with this specific instance. You will need it. Maybe citygator will give you more respec than he gave me and actually respond to you seriously, instead of shit talking you.

 

[citygator]

Things cost a lot when Biden created the worst inflation in 40 years. So why are democrat cities and states losing population? They cant afford to live there

No, really taxation cost


This is why businesses and people are fleeing

1/3 of Californians income is taken by taxes, that doesn’t include gas, sales and personal property, real estate and corp taxes

You two need to stay after school for tutoring on economics. California is expensive because of the demand to live there. A few people are moving out because there is so much demand and not enough land to go around. Its success driving it up.

Guess what? It costs a lot more to live in my neighborhood than yours. Why? Its not because of taxes. It's because there are a lot of nice houses in my neighborhood in high demand.

 

[citygator]

The census is the truth democrats cities and states losing population moving to red states.

Lol. One metric you dont understand. Guess why you dont live in my neighborhood?

 

[forkup]

I never play stupid to dodge someone else's point.

Indeed, I never try to derail a thread into stupid shit, to dodge a point.


If you can't tell the difference between me and that, that is an issue on YOUR end.




Good luck with this specific instance. You will need it. Maybe citygator will give you more respec than he gave me and actually respond to you seriously, instead of shit talking you.

If he doesn't respect me disagreeing with him then the "issue is on his end."

As for the difference. Sorry to say but there are many ways to derail a thread. And if you didn't use at least some of them, I would remember you personally as a serious interlocutor. Precisely because they're so rare here. I don't.

You are of course free to prove me wrong in any future converation we'll have, (I will remember this conversationà be it now or in the future and I will gladly admit that I was wrong about you and enjoy talking to you much more. You of course are free to hold me to that same standard.

 

[Hafar1014]

Lol. One metric you dont understand. Guess why you dont live in my neighborhood?

Its called voting with your feet and the feets are leaving democrat cities and states
Several reliably Democratic-leaning (or "blue") states have experienced population losses in recent years, a trend largely driven by domestic migration outpaced by other states' growth. The states with the most significant population losses since 2020 include California, New York, and Illinois.

States with Population Loss and General Political Affiliation
The following states, which typically vote Democratic in presidential elections, were among those that lost population in recent years, especially in the 2023-2024 timeframe:

• New York: Experienced the largest annual numeric and percentage decline in population in 2023.
• California: Also faced significant numeric population loss.
• Illinois: Has consistently seen population decline, a trend that began under the old census prior to 2020.
• Pennsylvania: Experienced a slight population decrease in 2023.
• Oregon: Saw a slight decline in population as well.
• Hawaii: Has seen population decreases due to net migration.
• Massachusetts: Experienced a decline between 2021 and 2022.
• Rhode Island: Also saw a population drop between 2021 and 2022.

Driving Factors
Population shifts are influenced by various factors, with political alignment being a minor, though growing, reason for some. The primary drivers include:

• High Cost of Living: High housing costs and general cost of living are major reasons people leave states like California, New York, and New Jersey.
• Domestic Migration: People are moving to states with lower costs and warmer climates, particularly in the Sun Belt (e.g., Florida, Texas, North Carolina).
• Economic Opportunities: Job relocation is a factor, with many people moving to states with more robust job markets.
• Natural Decrease: In some states, population decline is also due to more deaths than births (a "natural decrease"), such as in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.

The trend of population shifting from reliably Democratic states to reliably Republican or swing states could have long-term implications for political power, including the allocation of U.S. House seats and Electoral College votes.

 

[DGS49]

Average SAT scores is not a random sampling, so has no statistical validity. Those who take the test vs those who do not is the key. Only students who think they are "college material" take the test.

 

[Hafar1014]

Average SAT scores is not a random sampling, so has no statistical validity. Those who take the test vs those who do not is the key. Only students who think they are "college material" take the test.

Its a valid sample of those who take the test. Thats the point of it

 

[citygator]

Its called voting with your feet and the feets are leaving democrat cities and states
Several reliably Democratic-leaning (or "blue") states have experienced population losses in recent years, a trend largely driven by domestic migration outpaced by other states' growth. The states with the most significant population losses since 2020 include California, New York, and Illinois.

States with Population Loss and General Political Affiliation
The following states, which typically vote Democratic in presidential elections, were among those that lost population in recent years, especially in the 2023-2024 timeframe:

• New York: Experienced the largest annual numeric and percentage decline in population in 2023.
• California: Also faced significant numeric population loss.
• Illinois: Has consistently seen population decline, a trend that began under the old census prior to 2020.
• Pennsylvania: Experienced a slight population decrease in 2023.
• Oregon: Saw a slight decline in population as well.
• Hawaii: Has seen population decreases due to net migration.
• Massachusetts: Experienced a decline between 2021 and 2022.
• Rhode Island: Also saw a population drop between 2021 and 2022.

Driving Factors
Population shifts are influenced by various factors, with political alignment being a minor, though growing, reason for some. The primary drivers include:

• High Cost of Living: High housing costs and general cost of living are major reasons people leave states like California, New York, and New Jersey.
• Domestic Migration: People are moving to states with lower costs and warmer climates, particularly in the Sun Belt (e.g., Florida, Texas, North Carolina).
• Economic Opportunities: Job relocation is a factor, with many people moving to states with more robust job markets.
• Natural Decrease: In some states, population decline is also due to more deaths than births (a "natural decrease"), such as in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.

The trend of population shifting from reliably Democratic states to reliably Republican or swing states could have long-term implications for political power, including the allocation of U.S. House seats and Electoral College votes.

Voting with your feet shows California is the highest population in the country. MORE people live there than anywhere. That is voting with your feet genius.

Two restaurants:

Restaurant #1 has 1,000 customers it is seating and last year it had 1,010 customers. -10.
Restaurant #2 has 50 customers and last year it had 40 customers last year.+10
Which restaurant is more successful, more in demand, a better restaurant?

 

[struth]

You two need to stay after school for tutoring on economics. California is expensive because of the demand to live there. A few people are moving out because there is so much demand and not enough land to go around. Its success driving it up.

Guess what? It costs a lot more to live in my neighborhood than yours. Why? Its not because of taxes. It's because there are a lot of nice houses in my neighborhood in high demand.

A few?? It’s losing seats in Congress

It’s a mass exodus of people and business, less people and business less demand.

The demand is by the govt for taxes that make it unaffordable

The products sold there are sold across the entire United States…gas doesn’t cost 4.50/gallon in call and only 2.23 in OK due to demand. It’s the same gas

 

[Harry Dresden]

Our nations best state is California, although I do love North Carolina. It has the most people, the most GDP, the best resources, the most diverse economy, the best University system, the most billionaires, the most millionaires, the highest number of destination vacation travelers, and it has arguably the best weather and most diverse topography. California is what success looks like. Is it Nirvana? Nah. Lots of issues everywhere in the world but far fewer in California.

oh geezus...lol.....yea the california of 50 years ago.....she is nothing like that anymore those days are gone.........

 

[Nostra]

Our nations best state is California, although I do love North Carolina. It has the most people, the most GDP, the best resources, the most diverse economy, the best University system, the most billionaires, the most millionaires, the highest number of destination vacation travelers, and it has arguably the best weather and most diverse topography. California is what success looks like. Is it Nirvana? Nah. Lots of issues everywhere in the world but far fewer in California.

Must be why successful people and companies are fleeing in droves.

Pardon me if I don’t put much stock in the ramblings of someone who doesn’t believe it was Japan that bombed Pearl Harbor.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Our nations best state is California, although I do love North Carolina. It has the most people, the most GDP, the best resources, the most diverse economy, the best University system, the most billionaires, the most millionaires, the highest number of destination vacation travelers, and it has arguably the best weather and most diverse topography. California is what success looks like. Is it Nirvana? Nah. Lots of issues everywhere in the world but far fewer in California.

Fact is ca. is what it is because it is the usa and geography. The State was a red state until the internet put leftists in a trance as they're destroying the State......the state is now preferencing foreigners which is a primary reason for US CITIZENS leaving in droves....if the state was so great then I, in Northern nv. wouldn't be surrounded by ca. asylum

 

[Nostra]

In economic terms, why do things cost a lot? I'll give you one hint: has to do with supply and demand. Ok? Ready? GO!

Why is there a gas shortage in Kalifornia?

Kali: $4.26/gal

National avg: $2.83

 

[Nostra]

WRONG! Things cost a lot when there are more people who want something and less of it available.

California costs a lot because so many people want to live there. It's land cost is outrageous, even though it is huge, because of the demand to be there. People commute long drives just to live there.

Oklahoma is cheap because very few people want to live there.

Cost is a reflection of success. Low cost of living is a reflection of failure. Oklahoma is a failing state and has low cost of living. California and Massachusetts have high costs of living reflecting their success.

I normally charge for economics tutoring but I'll let you off this one time.

Prices should be dropping due to the massive fleeing from the shithole, using your “logic”, Simp.

 

[Rawley]

Living in the 50's? My parents were born in the 50's dumbass. All those statistics I posted were from last year. California is the jewel of America.

Is that why so many people are leaving? LOL