Starting tomorrow, if you’re on public assistance, you can’t wire money out of the country.

[Marener]

How the **** is saying "don't send our money overseas" authoritarian?

That would be "don't send YOUR money overseas"

But you’re not saying “don’t send our money overseas”. You’re lying, because that’s what you do.

You’re preventing people from sending their own money overseas because they happen to be on public assistance.

That is authoritarian.

 

[martybegan]

Yes, but its still done.
As noted I am supportive of the idea.

"It will be so so hard to do" isn't a reason not to do it.

That's what we pay ******* taxes for.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It SOUNDS like a good thing until you realize that to do that, all 50 states will have to put a block on all of the bank accounts and holdings of EVERY person on assistance hoping to get 1 in 10,000 actually wiring money.

And never mind anyone on assistance with some legitimate need to wire money out of the USA, maybe back to a poor, suffering, dying father in the old country.

So now, every person on assistance will be treated like a criminal with their privacy invaded and their freedom taken away. Doubly bad if it was the government which put you on assistance to begin with.

ITMT, while this costs the country millions of dollars, those few actually wiring money will just do it some other way. I understand that in one case, they literally just filled suitcases with millions in cash. Fully legal as long as they declare it to TSA.

Or they will simply wire the money to a friend or relative NOT on PA, then THEY will wire it out of the country.

Once again, your bank just became your Big(ger) Brother watching you, ever-ready to "report" on you.

Where did you get this?

 

[martybegan]

But you’re not saying “don’t send our money overseas”. You’re lying, because that’s what you do.

You’re preventing people from sending their own money overseas because they happen to be on public assistance.

That is authoritarian.

That's exactly what I am saying, and what the directive is saying.

When you are on PA you have to live by the rules of PA, this is just one more rule, and a good one.

Want to do whatever the **** you want? Don't take PA.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So basically, first they force you to use their banks, then the banks essentially spy on you now reporting everything you do like you are a criminal. Then they justify it as a necessary evil to catch the bag guys.

But then, as we are finding out now, they don't even do that much. We are overrun with bad guys. One state has stolen 9 billion dollars and they couldn't even catch that.

But they sure know what you did with your $600 to buy a new lawn mower.

You are so off base it is not funny!

 

[Zincwarrior]

That's what we pay ******* taxes for.

Wait we have to pay taxes for that too?

 

[martybegan]

Wait we have to pay taxes for that too?

Law enforcement?

 

[Lockback]

Another step in regaining control.

Follow the money.

A simple and yet brilliant move.
For somebody who's often portrayed as "dumb", Trump is probably the smartest President of my lifetime.

 

[22lcidw]

It’s a silly assumption to make given it’s an out public assistance and illegal aliens aren’t on public assistance.

It’s about citizens.

What’s the lawful basis for preventing citizens from sending their money overseas?

You know, due to you asses, we are becoming a police state. you guys are massively corrupted and play games and have helped government to become super-sized. You are the mafia. And you wet your beaks like nothing else in history. Trump at least realizes this as he strengthens our Western Hemisphere commitments. We defend it. And we get little for it. We do most of Canada's defense and near all of Greenland's defense. To afford you, we have to take more control and receive more resources so you can wet your beaks. Otherwise, all of your social justice agendas the last 60 years will crumble.

 

[Marener]

That's exactly what I am saying, and what the directive is saying.

When you are on PA you have to live by the rules of PA, this is just one more rule, and a good one.

Want to do whatever the **** you want? Don't take PA.

And one of those rules is "don't send your own money overseas", which is kind of authoritarian.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Law enforcement?

The other thing. Sorry hopped up on allergy meds this morning.

 

[martybegan]

And one of those rules is "don't send your own money overseas", which is kind of authoritarian.

No, it isn't.

When you take government money, it comes with government rules.

 

[White 6]

Well you see, first you make it a crime and then when people are caught they get prosecuted.

I'll write it so you can understand it with lotsa commas:

Well, you see, first you make it a crime, and then, when people get caught, they get prosecuted.

Sorry, I can't do Learing Center grammar and spelling, but I tried to insert as many commas as possible in a sentence.

Don't be a dumbass by attempting to be a smart ass. How does the government plan to catch them, when all they have to do is give the money to a middle man, not on government assistance to send it? There may very well be a way. I simply wonder what it is.

 

[martybegan]

Don't be a dumbass by attempting to be a smart ass. How does the government plan to catch them, when all they have to do is give the money to a middle man, not on government assistance to send it? There may very well be a way. I simply wonder what it is.

"Waah Waah it's too hard" is not an argument for not doing something.

Get rid of all the fraud and graft and government will have plenty of money to enforce this.

 

[Marener]

No, it isn't.

When you take government money, it comes with government rules.

You lied here. This is not what you're saying

How the **** is saying "don't send our money overseas" authoritarian?

That would be "don't send YOUR money overseas"

You are saying "don't send your money overseas".

 

[candycorn]

A simple and yet brilliant move.
For somebody who's often portrayed as "dumb", Trump is probably the smartest President of my lifetime.

 

[martybegan]

You lied here. This is not what you're saying



You are saying "don't send your money overseas".

That is what I am saying.

If you are on government assistance, you don't get to send money out of the country. Sorry, but that is not authoritarian.

It's a good rule. Just like not allowing certain things on Food Stamps.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Sounds good but how are they going to determine who is on public assistance and how will this stop money from being mailed out? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it, but I don't understand how they will accomplish it.

As with any law, the idea is not that you are going to automatically catch everyone who breaks it. The idea is to impose penalties harsh enough that when people do get caught, other people will be deterred.

In this case, I believe an adequate penalty would be when you're in prison, followed by automatic deportation with no chance to ever legally return.

Of course, many on welfare are already in the country unlawfully, so that second part won't be as much of a deterrent,
as it should be.

 

[Mr Natural]

Get rid of all the fraud and graft and government will have plenty of money to enforce this.

By stationing federal agents at money transfer locations?

 

[candycorn]

Don't be a dumbass by attempting to be a smart ass. How does the government plan to catch them, when all they have to do is give the money to a middle man, not on government assistance to send it? There may very well be a way. I simply wonder what it is.

Well...there is a way.

You know what it is?

More regulation. The very thing they are supposedly against. Its hilarious how far these guys will go to violate all of their alleged principles in the name of inconveniencing brown people.

You use personal identifiers before you allow money transfers. If John Doe wants to send a buck to Juan Doe in Mexico, you have to get John’s information on file to see if he’s getting welfare. Good luck with that. If you give a phony SSN...is there going to be a master list of every SSN? I’m not on welfare...do they collect finger prints? If so, you can use those identifiers and go full brownshirt.

What is going to be less easy to track is when you send money from Boston or Chicago to someone physically near the international border who then just drives it into Mexico. Or you drive in to Canada to simply send it to Mexico from Canada.

Its another “look what I did” moment that was not doing much of anything.