Stand with Trump; Fund the $355M Unjust Judgment

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Fraud, hahahaha

Who was the victim of this fraud, TAZ

Please everyone ignore this idiotic sealion question, meant to derail the thread.

 

[Lastamender]

None of that is re-litigable.

He will be forced to pay.

Everything is until it gets to the SCOTUS. Civil or criminal.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The sealion question was answered in the trial and has no merit here.

The judgement was just.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Everything is until it gets to the SCOTUS. Civil or criminal.

No it isn't. Appeals are not "do overs". You don't know what the hell you are talking about.

 

[Lastamender]

You don't seem to be getting this AT ALL.

All of that was ALREADY LITIGATED. Trump doesn't get a "do-over". That is not how the courts work.

And your law degree is from a gumball machine?

 

[Mac-7]

Men who spent their whole lives in military careers (lifers, not G.I. Joes with a few years in), said he did. I trust those men.


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They are swamp creatures who came up through the system serving powerful interests in washington

And the swamp hates trump

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And your law degree is from a gumball machine?

The knowledge of that basic fact of our justice system does not require a law degree. One only has to be an intelligent, curious adult who pays attention.

You should try it!

 

[StoneCold]

Actual judges and legal experts say you Dems are lawless scumbags and election riggers.

Name them. Actual judges. And there are "legal experts" on every RW tv channel. List their verifications.
Or continue to lie.

 

[Auld Phart]

You don't seem to be getting this AT ALL.

All of that was ALREADY LITIGATED. Trump doesn't get a "do-over". That is not how the courts work.

I'm not a lawyer, but I've watched enough Matlock and Perry Mason to have heard of the appeal process.

 

[Lastamender]

The knowledge of that basic fact of our justice system does not require a law degree. One only has to be an intelligent, curious adult who pays attention.

You should try it!

Congrats. Are you going to try and do that?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The Auld Phart. The basic facts are not in doubt. There is nothing new to put them in doubt.

Trump can appeal the amount of the fine. I think the court if he does that will double the amount.

 

[Auld Phart]

The knowledge of that basic fact of our justice system does not require a law degree. One only has to be an intelligent, curious adult who pays attention.

You should try it!

You should try it!

so should you

 

[elektra]

Please everyone ignore this idiotic sealion question, meant to derail the thread.

Derail the thread? The thread is about the fraud case, yes or no?

 

[scruffy]

That's not just a pretty face with yellow teeth. That's their hero-du-jour.

This will quietly go away in a few months... like an avenatti disappearing for 14 years.

Who will be the next hero? I can't hardly wait for the next season!


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The guy looks like someone's grandma.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Derail the thread?

Yep. Pathetic sealioning.

 

[elektra]

TAZ, who was the victim, who lost money?

 

[Dante]

They are swamp creatures who came up through the system serving powerful interests in washington

And the swamp hates trump

Trump replaced the so-called Swamp with a Sewer. How many lobbyists did he attach to his administration? You don't know. FOX never reported on it.

Update: We Found a “Staggering” 281 Lobbyists Who’ve Worked in the Trump Administration​

That’s one lobbyist for every 14 political appointees, and four times more than Obama had appointed six years into office.​

Update: We Found a “Staggering” 281 Lobbyists Who’ve Worked in the Trump Administration

That’s one lobbyist for every 14 political appointees, and four times more than Obama had appointed six years into office.

www.propublica.org

Lobbyists in (and out of) the Trump Administration​

Lobbyists in (and out of) the First Trump Administration

www.opensecrets.org

AND (bait and switch anyone?)...

Trump revokes rule preventing White House staff from lobbying​

In a last-minute move, the outgoing president reversed his original order and allowed the revolving door in Washington to continue swinging.

Trump revokes rule preventing White House staff from lobbying

In a last-minute move, the outgoing president reversed his original order and allowed the revolving door in Washington to continue swinging.

www.politico.com

 

[Dante]

TAZ, who was the victim, who lost money?

Read the indictment and the ruling.

and...the law: a little-known 70-year-old state law often referred to by its shorthand, 63(12)

The 'victim' card is being played in the political arena. In the courts, it won't fly on any sort of appeal. Why?

Former President Donald Trump continued his attacks on the civil fraud case against him in New York on Tuesday as he returned to the ongoing trial, including making claims that the case against him is “rigged” based on the statute it was brought under—which broadly gave state Attorney General Letitia James the power to prosecute Trump for alleged fraud.

James sued Trump, his business associates—including his sons—and the Trump Organization for alleged fraud under New York Executive Law 63(12), which empowers the attorney general to go to court against anyone who “engage in repeated fraudulent or illegal acts or otherwise demonstrate persistent fraud or illegality in the carrying on, conducting or transaction of business.”

The statute allows the attorney general to ask a state judge to stop the business from continuing its activities and fraudulent acts, force the defendants to pay damages or other restitution and, if necessary, order business certificates to be canceled.

Trump Keeps Attacking This Statute In N.Y. Fraud Case—Here’s Why His Claims Lack Merit

The statute gives the New York AG broad power to prosecute Trump and his company for alleged fraud.

www.forbes.com

quote: The statute does not require intent to commit fraud or anyone to be harmed by the fraud, and it does not give Trump the inherent right to a jury trial, with legal experts noting to CNN that while civil lawsuits that request monetary damages are entitled to a jury trial, cases seeking other “equitable relief”—meaning penalties that force the defendant to take or refrain from taking some kind of action, rather than just paying money—can be decided by a judge alone, which is more common with 63(12) violations and is the case in this trial.

 

[OKTexas]

After a year and a half of that question being publicly answered over and over in the media -- and countless times on this board -- you STILL don't get it?

I don't think there's anything anyone here can do to change that, then.

And yet you can't name a victim, it should be simple, if what you say is true.

.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And yet you can't name a victim, it should be simple, if what you say is true.

.

I can. Anyone functional adult who pays attention can. It was named in the trial and indictment you know nothing about. It was.discussed.publicly for nearly 18 months.

Good luck.