Stand with Israel

[GHook93]

I think Turkey's fairly successful. Nato membership. Although Turkey has evolved from the Ottomans and Byzantiem. So, whether it's comparable to .... the Saudis ... I dunno.

Did you seriously say Turkey? The country that is 99% one sect of one religion (Sunni Islam)! A country that massacres and persecutes a vulnerable minority (Kurds). A country that still occupies Cypress! A country that is ruled by an Islamist! A country that still threatens and messes with their smaller Christian neighbor of Armenia! A country that STILL TO THIS DAY denies the Armenian Genocide!

That Turkey?

Sadly, I'd say the former Baath states of Iraq and Syria posed the best options, that's all-ah-mucky.

No they possessed as a better not best option!

The one place we haven't been allowed to meddle is Iran, and they may actually be the most successful. Of course, it's a theocracy that allows nominal representative democracy.

LOL, you must be a leftist, because you have low expectation if you measure them as successful!

Jordan is evolving, but there again the Jewish state has led to problems with popular representation.

Please explain, I bet you can't in an intelligent way. Since they have made peace, not ONE problem Jordan has can be pinned on the Jews. They can pin their problems on their Palestinian MAJORITY!!!

However, I don't think you can argue Israel is anymore accepting of Intl Law than anyone else in the region. I think we'd agree that Putin is democratically elected, though in a flawed election, but arguing we have anything in common with that govt would be distasteful, imo.

They full provide, freedom of religion, free press, free speech, a FULL Democracy (where everyone get one vote), they protect private property, everyone has free access to courts, they have more religious minorities in their Parliament then they entire Arab (minus Lebanon), Turkish and Persian world. They fully protect minority, elderly, women and gay rights!

Only a trust mental midget would say they don't respect international laws more than any state in the region!

 

[toastman]

I support Israel.

By comparison, Israel's opposition seems to want to squash all dissenting opinions, religions, lifestyles, and world-views preserving just one monolithic narrative even to the extent of murdering opposition.

You are a stupid **** and a disgrace. You say support Israel and they slander her with you uneducated ANTISEMITISM (yep some of the worse antisemites are uneducated leftist Jews).

They don't squash dissenting opinion. In fact, they have members of Parliament that are Arabs that actively state their goal is to destroy Israel (Zobia). They have free press, free religion, free exercise of expression and all are protected under the law. Islam is just as protected in Islam as Judaism. They don't squash different lifestyle, the only place in the middle east they have gay pride parades is in Israel. You could feel at home there. Orthodox Jews have strict dress code, yet the only place in the middle east that doesn't have modesty police is Israel. Women are free, and god bless them, to dress as slutty ad they want.

Get your fags straight you brain-dead douche bag!

WTF is wrong with you???

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I don't stand "with Israel". I don't stand with anyone.

No one is right 100% of the time or wrong 100% of the time and by proclaiming you "stand with them" then you are also accepting and condoning what is wrong - or at best, turning a blind eye. Forcing a "you're either with us or against us" polarization is misguided.

There are no angels in this conflict.

"There is a peace to be found only on the other side of war. If that battle must come, I will fight it!" - King Arthur, "First Knight"

All war is unfortunate, but when your enemy is so wreckless and blinded by hate that they use their own people as human shields as they come for you, there's nothing to be done but defend yourself. And compared to the US, Israel's frequent use of advanced warnings for bombing targets is above and beyond the call. US never did that. Being in the US I didn't even know that was an option. US considered it in WWII for Hiroshima and Nagasaki but rejected the idea. And not coincidentally it was the Jewish scientists who made the bombs who suggested advanced notice be given of their imminent use.

So before being overly critical of Israel, take a look at your own country's way of conducting wars.

 

[BlindBoo]

Those who stand with Israel are of the same nature as those who idolised Hitler in the 1930's & 1940's.

That is why I would not do it if my life depended on it.

But so so many are "good Germans" convincing themselves they don't see the atrocities and extermination.

That's as bad as calling President Obama a Nazi.

If they are, they are the worst Nazis, ever. Would Gaza even exist?

 

[Indeependent]

I support Israel.

By comparison, Israel's opposition seems to want to squash all dissenting opinions, religions, lifestyles, and world-views preserving just one monolithic narrative even to the extent of murdering opposition.

You are a stupid **** and a disgrace. You say support Israel and they slander her with you uneducated ANTISEMITISM (yep some of the worse antisemites are uneducated leftist Jews).

They don't squash dissenting opinion. In fact, they have members of Parliament that are Arabs that actively state their goal is to destroy Israel (Zobia). They have free press, free religion, free exercise of expression and all are protected under the law. Islam is just as protected in Islam as Judaism. They don't squash different lifestyle, the only place in the middle east they have gay pride parades is in Israel. You could feel at home there. Orthodox Jews have strict dress code, yet the only place in the middle east that doesn't have modesty police is Israel. Women are free, and god bless them, to dress as slutty ad they want.

Get your fags straight you brain-dead douche bag!

Likud's 'leftist?' I'll mention that at the next meeting. That'll give us all a good laugh.

GHook read your post incorrectly.

 

[GHook93]

I support Israel.

By comparison, Israel's opposition seems to want to squash all dissenting opinions, religions, lifestyles, and world-views preserving just one monolithic narrative even to the extent of murdering opposition.

You are a stupid **** and a disgrace. You say support Israel and they slander her with you uneducated ANTISEMITISM (yep some of the worse antisemites are uneducated leftist Jews).

They don't squash dissenting opinion. In fact, they have members of Parliament that are Arabs that actively state their goal is to destroy Israel (Zobia). They have free press, free religion, free exercise of expression and all are protected under the law. Islam is just as protected in Islam as Judaism. They don't squash different lifestyle, the only place in the middle east they have gay pride parades is in Israel. You could feel at home there. Orthodox Jews have strict dress code, yet the only place in the middle east that doesn't have modesty police is Israel. Women are free, and god bless them, to dress as slutty ad they want.

Get your fags straight you brain-dead douche bag!

WTF is wrong with you???

Misread his post. He usually is bashing Israel and claiming to be a Jew! I did delete the post.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I support Israel.

By comparison, Israel's opposition seems to want to squash all dissenting opinions, religions, lifestyles, and world-views preserving just one monolithic narrative even to the extent of murdering opposition.

You are a stupid **** and a disgrace. You say support Israel and they slander her with you uneducated ANTISEMITISM (yep some of the worse antisemites are uneducated leftist Jews).

They don't squash dissenting opinion. In fact, they have members of Parliament that are Arabs that actively state their goal is to destroy Israel (Zobia). They have free press, free religion, free exercise of expression and all are protected under the law. Islam is just as protected in Islam as Judaism. They don't squash different lifestyle, the only place in the middle east they have gay pride parades is in Israel. You could feel at home there. Orthodox Jews have strict dress code, yet the only place in the middle east that doesn't have modesty police is Israel. Women are free, and god bless them, to dress as slutty ad they want.

Get your fags straight you brain-dead douche bag!

WTF is wrong with you???

Think he's in love with me. Seems to spend an inordinant amount of time writing me love letters using words suggestive of sex.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

You are a stupid **** and a disgrace. You say support Israel and they slander her with you uneducated ANTISEMITISM (yep some of the worse antisemites are uneducated leftist Jews).

They don't squash dissenting opinion. In fact, they have members of Parliament that are Arabs that actively state their goal is to destroy Israel (Zobia). They have free press, free religion, free exercise of expression and all are protected under the law. Islam is just as protected in Islam as Judaism. They don't squash different lifestyle, the only place in the middle east they have gay pride parades is in Israel. You could feel at home there. Orthodox Jews have strict dress code, yet the only place in the middle east that doesn't have modesty police is Israel. Women are free, and god bless them, to dress as slutty ad they want.

Get your fags straight you brain-dead douche bag!

WTF is wrong with you???

Misread his post. He usually is bashing Israel and claiming to be a Jew! I did delete the post.

(blinks several times)

Show one post where I bashed Israel. Since you just admitted you misread things maybe that's what happened.

 

[Coyote]

I don't stand "with Israel". I don't stand with anyone.

No one is right 100% of the time or wrong 100% of the time and by proclaiming you "stand with them" then you are also accepting and condoning what is wrong - or at best, turning a blind eye. Forcing a "you're either with us or against us" polarization is misguided.

There are no angels in this conflict.

"There is a peace to be found only on the other side of war. If that battle must come, I will fight it!" - King Arthur, "First Knight"

All war is unfortunate, but when your enemy is so wreckless and blinded by hate that they use their own people as human shields as they come for you, there's nothing to be done but defend yourself. And compared to the US, Israel's frequent use of advanced warnings for bombing targets is above and beyond the call. US never did that. Being in the US I didn't even know that was an option. US considered it in WWII for Hiroshima and Nagasaki but rejected the idea. And not coincidentally it was the Jewish scientists who made the bombs who suggested advanced notice be given of their imminent use.

So before being overly critical of Israel, take a look at your own country's way of conducting wars.

I'm not being overly critical of Israel, that was not the point I was making.

 

[fanger]

I think Turkey's fairly successful. Nato membership. Although Turkey has evolved from the Ottomans and Byzantiem. So, whether it's comparable to .... the Saudis ... I dunno.

Did you seriously say Turkey? The country that is 99% one sect of one religion (Sunni Islam)! A country that massacres and persecutes a vulnerable minority (Kurds). A country that still occupies Cypress! A country that is ruled by an Islamist!

A "Cypress" is a tree

 

[ForeverYoung436]

I think Turkey's fairly successful. Nato membership. Although Turkey has evolved from the Ottomans and Byzantiem. So, whether it's comparable to .... the Saudis ... I dunno.

Did you seriously say Turkey? The country that is 99% one sect of one religion (Sunni Islam)! A country that massacres and persecutes a vulnerable minority (Kurds). A country that still occupies Cypress! A country that is ruled by an Islamist!

A "Cypress" is a tree

Cyprus. My cousin visited there and posted pics on Facebook. It looks gorgeous.

 

[fanger]

The Greek part or the Turkish speaking part?

 

[R.C. Christian]

Do I stand with Israel? **** no. Doesn't mean I stand with it's enemies so you can dispense with that silly propaganda effort when you neg me.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The Greek part or the Turkish speaking part?

Didn't say in the pics. I would think both parts have the same landscape.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Did you seriously say Turkey? The country that is 99% one sect of one religion (Sunni Islam)! A country that massacres and persecutes a vulnerable minority (Kurds). A country that still occupies Cypress! A country that is ruled by an Islamist!

A "Cypress" is a tree

Cyprus. My cousin visited there and posted pics on Facebook. It looks gorgeous.

No one takes pictures of their vacation, or places they're showing off to their friends featuring the slums and says "Wish you were here." I'm sure North Korea has some nice spots too if you ignored the not-nice parts.

 

[GHook93]

You are a stupid **** and a disgrace. You say support Israel and they slander her with you uneducated ANTISEMITISM (yep some of the worse antisemites are uneducated leftist Jews).

They don't squash dissenting opinion. In fact, they have members of Parliament that are Arabs that actively state their goal is to destroy Israel (Zobia). They have free press, free religion, free exercise of expression and all are protected under the law. Islam is just as protected in Islam as Judaism. They don't squash different lifestyle, the only place in the middle east they have gay pride parades is in Israel. You could feel at home there. Orthodox Jews have strict dress code, yet the only place in the middle east that doesn't have modesty police is Israel. Women are free, and god bless them, to dress as slutty ad they want.

Get your fags straight you brain-dead douche bag!

WTF is wrong with you???

Think he's in love with me. Seems to spend an inordinant amount of time writing me love letters using words suggestive of sex.

Look at the big beautiful mug of your's who wouldn't!

Telling you to go **** yourself or something of the like isn't the same as hitting on you, but if that helps you ego, then go with it!

 

[Delta4Embassy]

WTF is wrong with you???

Think he's in love with me. Seems to spend an inordinant amount of time writing me love letters using words suggestive of sex.

Look at the big beautiful mug of your's who wouldn't!

Telling you to go **** yourself or something of the like isn't the same as hitting on you, but if that helps you ego, then go with it!

Oh come on now, be honest or I'll paste all those private little messages in the Negs.

 

[fanger]

A "Cypress" is a tree

Cyprus. My cousin visited there and posted pics on Facebook. It looks gorgeous.

No one takes pictures of their vacation, or places they're showing off to their friends featuring the slums and says "Wish you were here." I'm sure North Korea has some nice spots too if you ignored the not-nice parts.

The most shocking thing for me when I visited the US, was(a)the amount of Homeless people (b) the fact that most other people dont care
America's homeless: The rise of Tent City, USA - May. 16, 2014

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Cyprus. My cousin visited there and posted pics on Facebook. It looks gorgeous.

No one takes pictures of their vacation, or places they're showing off to their friends featuring the slums and says "Wish you were here." I'm sure North Korea has some nice spots too if you ignored the not-nice parts.

The most shocking thing for me when I visited the US, was(a)the amount of Homeless people (b) the fact that most other people dont care
America's homeless: The rise of Tent City, USA - May. 16, 2014

Trying to find a quote from "The West Wing" where someone says "No politician wants to talk about helping the poor and homeless, but without talking about it you can't." Or something to that effect. Sounds about right. A real politician isn't going to do very well swearing up and down they'll help the poor or homeless, but if no one ever talks about it, or campagins on it no one ever will.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Cyprus. My cousin visited there and posted pics on Facebook. It looks gorgeous.

No one takes pictures of their vacation, or places they're showing off to their friends featuring the slums and says "Wish you were here." I'm sure North Korea has some nice spots too if you ignored the not-nice parts.

The most shocking thing for me when I visited the US, was(a)the amount of Homeless people (b) the fact that most other people dont care
America's homeless: The rise of Tent City, USA - May. 16, 2014

To be fair, a lot of them actually choose that lifestyle. I know a guy that bought survival gear and quit a 50K job just so he could wander around homeless.