Staggering climate contradiction - data that can be fudged says "warming," data that cannot be fudged says "no warming"

[Dagosa]

Absolutely false. An example is the claim that NY would flood under storm surges. Deniers just keep repeating it for bright sunny days. science makes no mistakes because it’s always based upon the evidence they have at the time. Deniers just aregue in absolutes because either they are confused of they are trying to confuse their minions. .

The story goes that when OAC was asked about that prediction she said she was just kidding. Meanwhile, let's all agree that:

1. Predictions are very difficult, especially those about the future. It's easy to say the earth will warm up and it's also easy to say it wont.
2. The earth isn't doomed yet, and nobody's got temp readings to show it's warmed yet. OK, so we get a hot day once in a while, then we get a cold day. What we know for sure is that in the past the earth was hotter than it is today and compared to other times it was colder.

Given what we know now, we are already in a climate crisis.
Nope, estimated predictions are effin easy.,

Every climate research facility in the world agrees…

 

[expat_panama]

Absolutely false...

OK, so you're dealing in absolutes here and there's nothing I can possibly tell you that you will be willing to accept. We can leave it at that.

 

[ding]

Given what we know now, we are already in a climate crisis.
Nope, estimated predictions are effin easy.,

Every climate research facility in the world agrees…

That's why this is so funny. You actually believe we are in a climate crisis now and apparently every climate scientist in the world believes that too.

I can't think of anything that would make you guys look more ridiculous.

 

[Dagosa]

OK, so you're dealing in absolutes here and there's nothing I can possibly tell you that you will be willing to accept. We can leave it at that.

No there isn’t. You have no credibility. You aren’t nor do you represent NASA, Johns Hopkins, Columbia or any accredited institute of higher learning, any govt in any country in the world , our military or ANY climate related corporation.
ANYONE we left out ?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No there isn’t. You have no credibility. You aren’t nor do you represent NASA, Johns Hopkins, Columbia or any accredited institute of higher learning, any govt in any country in the world , our military or ANY climate related corporation.
ANYONE we left out ?

Not one shred.

 

[EMH]

The question is how much warming does man made pollution add

According to the two and only two measures we have of atmospheric temps, satellites and balloons, the additional man made Co2 has done precisely NOTHING, which is why the Co2 FRAUD fudged both series in 2005...

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling



English translation of NBC slant - the two and only two measures of atmospheric temperature showed NO WARMING over three decades in highly correlated fashion. The Co2 FRAUD, faced with the reality that the two and only two measures of their Co2 Theory both REJECTED THE THEORY COMPLETELY decided to FUDGE BOTH SERIES in 2005.


Co2 does NOTHING

Earth is NOT WARMING

Do not parrot FAUX NEWS

 

[EMH]

That's why this is so funny. You actually believe we are in a climate crisis now and apparently every climate scientist in the world believes that too.

I can't think of anything that would make you guys look more ridiculous.

We have noticed that your taxpayer funded rear end has not attempted to explain why surface air pressure is not rising.....

YOU are PART OF the Co2 FRAUD just like Toddster....

 

[ding]

We have noticed that your taxpayer funded rear end has not attempted to explain why surface air pressure is not rising.....

YOU are PART OF the Co2 FRAUD just like Toddster....

You’re an imbecile.

 

[Dagosa]

According to the two and only two measures we have of atmospheric temps, satellites and balloons, the additional man made Co2 has done precisely NOTHING, which is why the Co2 FRAUD fudged both series in 2005...

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling



English translation of NBC slant - the two and only two measures of atmospheric temperature showed NO WARMING over three decades in highly correlated fashion. The Co2 FRAUD, faced with the reality that the two and only two measures of their Co2 Theory both REJECTED THE THEORY COMPLETELY decided to FUDGE BOTH SERIES in 2005.


Co2 does NOTHING

Earth is NOT WARMING

Do not parrot FAUX NEWS

You did it again….the article disproves your BS and that of every denier. Didn’t you proof read it ?

 

[EMH]

You did it again….the article disproves your BS and that of every denier. Didn’t you proof read it ?

Apparently DAG doesn't understand the difference between DATA and FUDGE.

IQ over 5 required....

 

[Dagosa]

Apparently DAG doesn't understand the difference between DATA and FUDGE.

IQ over 5 required....

Bubba, the article summarizes the results which YOU DENIERS misinterpret. It’s hilarious when you use a source that is against all your BS….you make up shit…
Data your ass. You can’t even read it as a science illiterate.

 

[skye]

But the ones that are not “spot on” are WAY OFF.

I content that is what hurts your Global Warming Religion the worst. Stop people, especially politicians and a few scientists, from making “end of the world just around the corner predictions.“The media may love such predictions but they hurt your credibility with the general public.

For example: …

Ocasio-Cortez: ‘World will end in 12 years’ if climate change not addressed​

BY JOHN BOWDEN - 01/22/19 8:27 AM ET

Ocasio-Cortez: ‘World will end in 12 years’ if climate change not addressed

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Monday said she thinks that there is an urgency needed in addressing man-made climate change, warning that it will “destroy the planet” in…

thehill.com

Exactly! ^^^

 

[Dagosa]

Exactly! ^^^




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This entire thread is pitifully supported by slow moving ignorance.

 

[EMH]

Bubba, the article summarizes the results which YOU DENIERS misinterpret. It’s hilarious when you use a source that is against all your BS….you make up shit…
Data your ass. You can’t even read it as a science illiterate.

No, if you do not understand fudge vs data, you post illiterate BS like you just did.

The DATA comes from the instruments, satellites and balloons. That DATA showed NO WARMING in the atmosphere for more than three decades in highly correlated fashion.

Then came the FUDGE and the SLANT from MSDNC....

The FUDGE is absolutely laughable. "Orbit wobble" would not change the IR satellite readings at all. The "shade" issue used to fudge the balloons was CONSTANT the whole time and hence should NOT have changed a FLAT LINE into an upward slope, but rather could have justified moving the FLAT LINE up....

 

[Dagosa]

That DATA showed NO WARMING in the atmosphere for more than three decades in highly correlated fashion.

Ha ha, you’re hilariously stupid. All this time you keep talking about how the atmosphere has not been warming,,,
Dumbo, science measures the temperatures AT THE SURFACE, not up in the atmosphere. But you being science illiterate, don’t have a clue how IR from the sun and CO2 warms the surface and the ocean do you ? What a science illiterate. IR heaters are noted because they warm SURFACES and not the surrounding air…..

Of course, a few of us have referred you to the actual science but you hilariously keep playing ignorance. Your dunce cap is waaay too tight.

 

[EMH]

science measures the temperatures AT THE SURFACE, not up in the atmosphere.

LOL!!!


satellites and weather balloons measure the atmosphere, not the surface...


What a MORON!!!!

 

[Dagosa]

No, if you do not understand fudge vs data, you post illiterate BS like you just did.

The DATA comes from the instruments, satellites and balloons. That DATA showed NO WARMING in the atmosphere for more than three decades in highly correlated fashion.

Then came the FUDGE and the SLANT from MSDNC....

The FUDGE is absolutely laughable. "Orbit wobble" would not change the IR satellite readings at all. The "shade" issue used to fudge the balloons was CONSTANT the whole time and hence should NOT have changed a FLAT LINE into an upward slope, but rather could have justified moving the FLAT LINE up....

Fudge, fudge, fudge…..So, YOU claim Every climate science facility in the world is lying, while you with you incessantly science illiterate post are the one qualified to lick it up….so what degree do you ? From what Institution of higher learning ? Cause none of them agree with your BS…

 

[EMH]

Fudge, fudge, fudge…..So, YOU claim Every climate science facility in the world is lying, while you with you incessantly science illiterate post are the one qualified to lick it up….so what degree do you ? From what Institution of higher learning ? Cause none of them agree with your BS…

Doesn't understand the difference between DATA and FUDGE.

IQ<5

 

[Dagosa]

LOL!!!


satellites and weather balloons measure the atmosphere, not the surface...


What a MORON!!!!

Now you’re flat out stupid….the temperature readings are measured at the surface. Satellites use temperature sensitive light wave reflections to record temps …..AT THE SURFACE illiterate. CO2 us measured in the atmosphere foolish, temperatures are measured at and near surface level. Are you say I’m the moron ? You can’t even read. I gave out several references from climate science institutions showing how these are used…..

 

[Dagosa]

Doesn't understand the difference between DATA and FUDGE.

IQ<5

I do…fudge is what you eat. Your effin claiming all of climate science is lying, you’re a science illiterate.