Spirit Airlines was destroyed by Elizabeth Warren and Biden

You know, you’re right. They hadn’t emerged from the August bankruptcy.

But it’s dumb to say that the high fuel prices didn’t have anything to do with it.
I never said fuel prices didn’t have ā€œanythingā€ to do with it, did I? What I did say and I will repeat is that Spirit Airlines was financially insolvent. They had filed two bankruptcy’s and failed to gain a bail out. It is my opinion they would not have been able to all of the sudden after seven years start showing a profit. They were given plenty of chances and failed. That is on them.
 
When Elizabeth Warren took to X in early 2024 to acknowledge the blocked merger between JetBlue Airways and Spirit Airlines, she framed it as a clear consumer victory. She called the decision, which she argued would prevent fares from competition-induced creeping, a "Biden win for flyers." (1)
Those in favor of the merger, however, argued that it would have aided both airlines in their increasingly tenuous efforts to keep costs down. And, as it turns out, Spirit couldn't afford to keep those efforts up.

"Sustaining the business required hundreds of millions of additional dollars of liquidity that Spirit simply does not have and could not procure," Dave Davis, Spirit's President and Chief Executive Officer, said in a press release. (2) "This is tremendously disappointing and not the outcome any of us wanted."

Warren and impaired Biden in another act of fiscal stupidity blocked the merger of Jet Blue and Spirit Airways. More proof democrats cant manage an economy and create chaos when they are in control
Good to know
 
I never said fuel prices didn’t have ā€œanythingā€ to do with it, did I? What I did say and I will repeat is that Spirit Airlines was financially insolvent. They had filed two bankruptcy’s and failed to gain a bail out. It is my opinion they would not have been able to all of the sudden after seven years start showing a profit. They were given plenty of chances and failed. That is on them.
Spirit thought they could return to profitability by shrinking operations.


Could have they pulled it off? Maybe. But not in these conditions.
 
When Elizabeth Warren took to X in early 2024 to acknowledge the blocked merger between JetBlue Airways and Spirit Airlines, she framed it as a clear consumer victory. She called the decision, which she argued would prevent fares from competition-induced creeping, a "Biden win for flyers." (1)
Those in favor of the merger, however, argued that it would have aided both airlines in their increasingly tenuous efforts to keep costs down. And, as it turns out, Spirit couldn't afford to keep those efforts up.

"Sustaining the business required hundreds of millions of additional dollars of liquidity that Spirit simply does not have and could not procure," Dave Davis, Spirit's President and Chief Executive Officer, said in a press release. (2) "This is tremendously disappointing and not the outcome any of us wanted."

Warren and impaired Biden in another act of fiscal stupidity blocked the merger of Jet Blue and Spirit Airways. More proof democrats cant manage an economy and create chaos when they are in control
Not exactly. šŸ‘‡šŸ‘‡
Short summary - main causes

1. Acute liquidity insolvency: Spirit ran out of cash and could not meet obligations, forcing an immediate wind‑down.
2. Failed rescue/merger path: The blocked JetBlue acquisition removed a likely buyer/infusion of capital.
3. Inability to secure new financing or a federal bailout: talks and requests for emergency funding did not produce the needed capital.
4. High fuel prices and operating cost pressure: a sharp rise in jet fuel amplified losses for a thin‑margin low‑cost carrier.
5. Business model and competitive pressures: low fares, heavy debt/lease obligations, and intense competition limited flexibility to absorb shocks.

Net: a mix of immediate financial collapse plus longer‑running structural weaknesses, exacerbated by political/regulatory outcomes (merger block and no bailout) and macro factors (fuel prices).

Minimal macroeconomic impact — mostly localized disruption. Immediate effects: travel chaos for passengers, lost wages for laid‑off workers, refunds/claims in bankruptcy, higher fares and capacity gaps on routes Spirit served. Broader U.S. GDP/financial‑market effects are likely small and short‑lived. :)

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Yup

Less. We have fewer choices now.

What "hypocrisy" are talking about? There was no bailout.

So how is Spirit going under better for "public health or national security?"
Thought so. No, a merger between JetBlue and Spirit Airlines would make the market less free. It would have resulted in Monopoly power, fewer choices for consumers and higher prices. Those higher prices not being the result of increased efficiencies better technologies. No, the merger would have built nothing and additional profits would come from "rents". That is what a free market is supposed to be free from, "rents".

As to Spirit going under, doubt it has an impact on how "free" the market is one way or another. The reality is their business model failed and there is no reason whatsoever to prop up a failed business UNLESS it has to do with national security or public health. I doubt an second rate airline contributes to either.
 
Thought so. No, a merger between JetBlue and Spirit Airlines would make the market less free. It would have resulted in Monopoly power, fewer choices for consumers and higher prices. Those higher prices not being the result of increased efficiencies better technologies. No, the merger would have built nothing and additional profits would come from "rents". That is what a free market is supposed to be free from, "rents".

As to Spirit going under, doubt it has an impact on how "free" the market is one way or another. The reality is their business model failed and there is no reason whatsoever to prop up a failed business UNLESS it has to do with national security or public health. I doubt an second rate airline contributes to either.
Nice socialist mental gymnastics there. :laugh2:
 
That is classic Adam Smith hoss. Old School.
I generally oppose mergers. Less competition.
We've had WAY too many of them in the entertainment industry, for one thing.
But two relatively small airlines that could find the relationship mutually beneficial?
Please. :icon_rolleyes:
Spare me the sanctimony.
 
Do you Republicans stand for anything? The choice was to allow the merger to go through or allow Spirit to go under. I mean first question, since when did Republicans start believing the government should prop up unprofitable businesses? I swear I must have missed that memo. Whatever happened to letting the markets decide?

Spirits business model fell apart, they are supposed to go under. It is the way the market works. And the merger would have resulted in tens of millions of customers paying higher fares with fewer choices. All to keep a bunch of employees working for a failing business employed? Damn, let them panhandle at the airport, it is the same damn thing.
Those customers will now be paying the higher fares of other airlines and all of those employees are no longer employed. What did anyone gain by not allowing the merger?

Dumbass!
 
And what does that have to do with what I said?

It was impossible for them to return to profitability with high jet fuel prices.
Of course. They were destroyed beyond repair after four years of xiden’s economy which forced them in to bankruptcy
 
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They tried to pull that off since 2019. They made no actual profit. They were doomed. Two bankruptcies in as many years. They failed…
There's this thing called COVID that was rather disruptive.

Trump is a personification of COVID. Rather disruptive
 
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Do you Republicans stand for anything? The choice was to allow the merger to go through or allow Spirit to go under. I mean first question, since when did Republicans start believing the government should prop up unprofitable businesses? I swear I must have missed that memo. Whatever happened to letting the markets decide?

Spirits business model fell apart, they are supposed to go under. It is the way the market works. And the merger would have resulted in tens of millions of customers paying higher fares with fewer choices. All to keep a bunch of employees working for a failing business employed? Damn, let them panhandle at the airport, it is the same damn thing.
Due to politics and the failure of this airline it has not been a great year to go to the airports. At this point it is a little painful to go to the airport, give your luggage to the agents, file through the TSA, get on a plane, fly on a plane, get off the plane, get your luggage, and leave the airport you arrived in.
 
There's this thing called COVID that was rather disruptive.

Trump is a personification of COVID. Rather disruptive
Odd that you appear to want to transition to your apparent TDS. Nothing I have stated on the actual subject of this thread is inaccurate.
 
Odd that you appear to want to transition to your apparent TDS. Nothing I have stated on the actual subject of this thread is inaccurate.
Your belief that they could have never achieved profitability is just speculation. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, it’s just what it is.
 
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