SpaceX Starship reaches for the stars. Complete success

A little premature for that prediction. Just a week ago everyone declared Starship would never reach orbit and return to Earth.

It is a real shame democrats turned thier backs on another democrat. Had the democrats not thrown Musk under the bus democrats could point to a democrat success.

You could be right. Probes make it to Mars so there is precedent.
I don’t know who predicted it would never make it to orbit and come back and I don’t care.

The problem is its weight keeps increasing and the payload capacity keeps decreasing.

You can’t make it to Mars with a rocket that carries less than a falcon heavy.

It’s going to be a very expensive starlink satellite machine if it ever finishes development hell.
 
A little premature for that prediction. Just a week ago everyone declared Starship would never reach orbit and return to Earth.

It is a real shame democrats turned thier backs on another democrat. Had the democrats not thrown Musk under the bus democrats could point to a democrat success.

You could be right. Probes make it to Mars so their is precedent.
Mars is ridiculous as long as we haven’t established a base on the moon.
 
Mars is ridiculous as long as we haven’t established a base on the moon.
This spacecraft will help tremendously getting to the moon and setting up a base. At the very least astronauts will spend a lot longer than the couple of days the later Apollo missions did. Supposedly we are going to construct a mini space station called the Lunar Gateway orbiting the moon in a long loop from close to much further out by tens of thousands of miles. It will not be permanently tendered as of now. Used when needed.
 
Mars is ridiculous as long as we haven’t established a base on the moon.
i cant disagree with that. Does man need a presence outside of Earth. That is a good question. There are a lot of elements on the planets around us. Will they ever be needed is the true question
 
I don’t know who predicted it would never make it to orbit and come back and I don’t care.

The problem is its weight keeps increasing and the payload capacity keeps decreasing.

You can’t make it to Mars with a rocket that carries less than a falcon heavy.

It’s going to be a very expensive starlink satellite machine if it ever finishes development hell.
The money spent on its development is a pittance compared to the Space Launch System. Everything on the SLS is thrown away except the Orion Capsule. Just like Apollo 60 years earlier. Starship is revolutionary in potential at a cheaper price. If they get this to work, it may launch as much as Falcon 9 does.
 
The money spent on its development is a pittance compared to the Space Launch System. Everything on the SLS is thrown away except the Orion Capsule. Just like Apollo 60 years earlier. Starship is revolutionary in potential at a cheaper price. If they get this to work, it may launch as much as Falcon 9 does.
SLS has one thing Starship doesn't have. A functional rocket.
 
A rocket reaching space is a win? I watched one 55 years ago.

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One time each, a launch and a re-entry. How many times for Space X?
When Challenger exploded the odds of catastrophe was one in thirty. It was close to that number. After there were upgrades it went to one in a hundred. And the Columbia happened close to that. There were warnings on the side boosters in launches and NASA did nothing when Challenger happened. Supposedly, there was environmental changes that affected the foam insulation on the orange tank in later shuttle missions which may have affected the Columbia. The first two missions the tank was painted white. There are some who say if we kept painting the tank that may have kept the foam on. The paint added a couple of tons of weight though. Professionals most likely know better than I.
 
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SLS has one thing Starship doesn't have. A functional rocket.
You are right. Currently. Unfortunately, it is expensive to launch. NASA has not had a functional rocket with humans in it since 2011 when the Shuttle ended. They keep delaying the SLS with people on it. Supposedly next year they will circle the moon. Four billion dollars a launch to start. We have had one a couple of years ago. They say it will come down to two billion dollars or so. And that includes just the Orion capsule with up to four humans to leave the earth. This system was supposed to cost around 300 million dollars a launch when started.
 
Are we paying for a fireworks show or real science? They sound like the same geniuses that brought you the Cybertruck.
Well to be fair, you can’t define a woman, so let’s not pretend you know what science is
 
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