Soviet Immigrants to Sanders Supporters: "Have You Ever Lived Under a Revolution?”

[American_Jihad]

Good question, but watch they'll have a smart alec answer...
Soviet Immigrants to Sanders Supporters: "Have You Ever Lived Under a Revolution?”
April 13, 2016
Daniel Greenfield

Chess grandmaster Garry Kasparov made headlines when he dismissed the Sanders campaign last month.

I'm enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism.

Now the Atlantic's Olga Khazan took a look and saw that immigrants from the USSR are not into Sanders and Socialism.

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For the hard left though that's a feature, not a bug. What's the point of a revolution if you don't get to line up anyone against the wall?

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The Russians didn’t buy it. There’s no need for America to become more like Finland or France, they said. “They think Finland is just America with free medical care. Finland is good for people who are on welfare for a long time,” Nadia Shkolnikov said. “Not if you want to rise up.”

And that's the real choice. If you have upward mobility, you're also going to have income inequality. If you have a stable state, you can have a degree of equality as long as you sacrifice upward mobility.

That's the subtext here.

 

[American_Jihad]

What’s Democratic About Bernie Sanders’ ‘Democratic’ Socialism?
Bernie's life-long love affair with tyranny.
April 14, 2016
Benny Huang

It takes a certain chutzpah to insist that food lines are actually a good thing—but that’s exactly what Bernie Sanders did in 1985 when he was the mayor of Burlington, Vermont. An old video of Sanders, a self-described “democratic” socialist, has surfaced in which he speaks favorably of the Marxist government of Nicaragua. The video was recorded in August of 1985, just weeks after he visited Nicaragua at the invitation of the left-wing junta.

Sanders went beyond decrying American involvement in that nation’s dirty civil war and actually praised the Soviet-supported Sandinistas, their policies, and even their food lines. “You know, it’s funny, sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is because people are lining up for food,” said Sanders. “That’s a good thing. In other countries the rich get the food and the poor starve to death.”

Who knew that food lines could be spun as a positive? Sanders’ assertion, though not quite as outrageous as his previous commentary on women’s supposed gang rape fantasies, is still a doozy.

The Nicaragua that Sanders visited during the 1980s was distinctly socialist but not particularly democratic. In 1979, the Sandinistas overthrew dictator Anastasio Somoza and instituted rule by decree while promising democratic elections. As time passed, however, it became evident that one dictatorship had replaced another.

Five years went by and the new ruling elite never got around to having a referendum on their revolution. And why would they? They had nothing to gain from an election and everything to lose. In 1984 the Sandinistas, under internal and international pressure, allowed the people to vote in an election whose legitimacy has been debated ever since. While some international observers concluded that it was imperfect but fair, others have called it a sham. At very least, we know that the elections took place under a “state of emergency” declared by the ruling Sandinistas in 1982. Basic freedoms such as free speech, press, and assembly were suspended. Independent radio and television broadcasts were banned. It’s rather difficult to win an election when your opponent won’t allow you to talk, meet, publish, or broadcast over the airwaves. The state of emergency continued until 1988.

Legitimate or not, the Sandinistas were the clear victors of the 1984 election that they had only begrudgingly allowed. They promised another election in 1985, the year Mayor Sanders visited, which they reneged on. It wasn’t until 1990 that the Nicaraguan people were permitted to cast ballots again. This time the Marxists were tossed out.

In the span of eleven years the Sandinistas allowed only two elections, neither of which they actually wanted to hold. One of these elections may have been rigged and the other they lost. Was the “democratic” socialist Bernie Sanders dismayed by the lack of democracy in Nicaragua?

Not in the least. After returning from his government-sponsored trip through whatever Potemkin village they wanted him to see, Sanders wrote an open letter to the people of Nicaragua on the mayor’s official letterhead: “I am certain you will win—and that your heroic revolution against the Somoza dictatorship will be maintained and strengthened.” It’s odd that he would invoke the ghost of Somoza, who was deposed by the Sandinistas in 1979 and gunned down a year later, as if the old dictator were waiting in the wings to undo all the Marxist movement had worked for. Clearly Sanders was formulating a false choice between Somoza and the Sandinistas. It’s very likely that the majority of Nicaraguans wanted neither and would have elected someone else if they had been given the opportunity. But alas, the elections that were promised for that year were cancelled and no one knew at the time if there would be any more ever again. Bernie Sanders didn’t know either though he apparently didn’t care. He ended his letter with the communist salutation “Venceremos,” borrowed from the Spanish Civil War and made popular among Latin American Marxist groups.

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What’s Democratic About Bernie Sanders’ ‘Democratic’ Socialism?

 

[Moonglow]

If you don't know the socio-economic history of Russia, you can't understand how or why they instituted communism..

 

[American_Jihad]

If you don't know the socio-economic history of Russia, you can't understand how or why they instituted communism..

I had relatives behind the iron curtain, IT DON'T WORK...

BUT, if you want or any libtarts want a taste try n korea...

 

[Snouter]

No wonder neocon zionist candidates (everyone but The Donald) hate Mr. Putin!

 

[francoHFW]

If you don't know the socio-economic history of Russia, you can't understand how or why they instituted communism..

I had relatives behind the iron curtain, IT DON'T WORK...

BUT, if you want or any libtarts want a taste try n korea...

We're talking about the horribly unfair Czarist Russia- plus a terrible WWI. No Americans want communism or 3rd world, hater dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

No wonder neocon zionist candidates (everyone but The Donald) hate Mr. Putin!

Now there's a ridiculous lie lol...

 

[francoHFW]

OP- POLITICAL revolution, dupes.

 

[American_Jihad]

If you don't know the socio-economic history of Russia, you can't understand how or why they instituted communism..

I had relatives behind the iron curtain, IT DON'T WORK...

BUT, if you want or any libtarts want a taste try n korea...

We're talking about the horribly unfair Czarist Russia- plus a terrible WWI. No Americans want communism or 3rd world, hater dupe.

But you almost have it with the great obongo, he still has a few months left, let's see how much damage the monkey can do...

 

[francoHFW]

If you don't know the socio-economic history of Russia, you can't understand how or why they instituted communism..

I had relatives behind the iron curtain, IT DON'T WORK...

BUT, if you want or any libtarts want a taste try n korea...

We're talking about the horribly unfair Czarist Russia- plus a terrible WWI. No Americans want communism or 3rd world, hater dupe.

But you almost have it with the great obongo, he still has a few months left, let's see how much damage the monkey can do...

^^Racist functional moron...The problem is he has been blocked in many obvious solutions...

 

[American_Jihad]

Now I know why the college kiddies like sanders so much, he's as stupid as they are...
Bernie's Wife: Asking My Husband What He's Talking About Is An Inquisition
April 14, 2016
Daniel Greenfield

Bernie Sanders' Daily News interview made him a laughingstock as he reminded everyone that

A. He has no idea what he's talking about

B. He pivots to robotic stump speeches whenever he's stumped

So now Bernie sent out his wife to accuse the tabloid of an "inquisition" for asking him questions. No one expects the "explain how you would carry out your promises" inquisition...

Bernie Sanders’ wife went to bat for the upstart Democratic presidential candidate Wednesday, calling her husband’s much-critiqued sit-down with the New York Daily News editorial board an “inquisition.”

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Here's the flavor of this mound of gibberish that Bernie Sanders was spewing...

Sanders: No, I did not say we would order. I did not say that we would order. The President is not a dictator.

Daily News: Okay. You would then leave it to JPMorgan Chase or the others to figure out how to break it, themselves up. I'm not quite...

Sanders: You would determine is that, if a bank is too big to fail, it is too big to exist. And then you have the secretary of treasury and some people who know a lot about this, making that determination. If the determination is that Goldman Sachs or JPMorgan Chase is too big to fail, yes, they will be broken up.

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Oh the inquisition. The horrible inquisition! Why did they torment Bernie by asking him how the hell he would keep his crazy promises...

Then Bernie Sanders went on to say that despite not knowing the legal implications, he's sure something illegal went on...

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Bernie Sanders has no idea what the law is. But he'll appoint someone who will find somehow that some laws were broken because he loves the Soviet an Cuban criminal justice systems.

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Ladies and gentlemen, your next president. He believes stuff. Let's hang some people on his word. No, we don't need to bother looking at any laws.

And yet Bernie Sanders is ironically the one whining about an inquisition...


Bernie's Wife: Asking My Husband What He's Talking About Is An Inquisition

 

[American_Jihad]

These stupid libtarts have no idea what socialism is, like to send them to N. Korea...

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

We're talking about the horribly unfair Czarist Russia- plus a terrible WWI. No Americans want communism or 3rd world, hater dupe.

And yet you're trying so hard for it, you silly stuper poop