Someone wants to use the 14th Amendment to fix the 2024 election for Dems.

The right has no valid concerns about election security. All they care about is lying about election security to get their guy in office illegally.

Bullshit. Unfettered and uncontrolled absentee ballots make cheating easy.
 
And yet, there was very little cheating found. Nothing even close to flipping the election.

Because criminals don't ever try to hide their criminality.

And those benefiting from it would surely turn over every stone to find it.........

/sarcasm
 
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Democrats need to stop trying to figure out how to "lawyer" Trump out of contention, and ask themselves the real question: Why do people prefer an unhinged populist to what they have to offer?
 
Because criminals don't ever try to hide their criminality.

And those benefiting from it would surely turn over every stone to find it.........

/sarcasm

The 2020 election is the most reviewed, challanged, researched and validated election in U.S. history. There was not very much cheating. And the cheating that was found was committed by both parties.
 
Democrats need to stop trying to figure out how to "lawyer" Trump out of contention, and ask themselves the real question: Why do people prefer an unhinged populist to what they have to offer?

Already know the answer to that. It's because unfortunately, what we're offering is a senile old putz who's not fit for office.
 
The 14th has no such limitations. "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

The Riot on Jan 6th qualifies and he most certainly gave aid and comfort to his riotous hoard during and after the riot.
Then charge him and convict him of insurrection.
 
Already know the answer to that. It's because unfortunately, what we're offering is a senile old putz who's not fit for office.
I think it's more than that (they seem willing to vote for the other senile putz), but acknowledging that is at least a start.
 
Then charge him and convict him of insurrection.
The Amendment doesn't require a conviction for either an insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution. Expedite the Jan 6th indictment. Be that as it may, the Amendment doesn't say he can't run for office as a Republican or get elected. It bars him from holding office so there will be court challenges to his swearing in. The VP Candidate, if they didn't participate in the scheme to overturn the election, would be eligible if the Neo-GOP ticket wins imo.
 
Insurrection is a crime. Crimes have to be decided in front of a jury of ones peers.

And that Trump betrayed anything is a matter of opinion, not fact.

Judges declared separate but equal being constitutional as "fact" a century ago.

It has to be decided before a Jury if you intend to deprive the accused of Life, Liberty, or Property. Does Trump die if he isn’t on the ballot? Is he secured in a cell in a prison? Does he have his bank accounts seized? No.

Look at it this way. Let’s say you get an application for a Top Secret Clearance. The individual does not qualify. Nobody owes him a TS clearance. Nobody has to go to court to deny him one. He is untrustworthy and denied the opportunity that is all.

Running for office is the same sort of thing. Nobody owes Trump the Presidency. Or even the opportunity. It is, like a TS clearance, an honor. A privilege. It is not a right.
 
Insurrection is a crime. Crimes have to be decided in front of a jury of ones peers.

And that Trump betrayed anything is a matter of opinion, not fact.

Judges declared separate but equal being constitutional as "fact" a century ago.

Read the 14th. Amendement. P01135809 DOES NOT HAVE TO CONVICTED OF INSURRECTION. You seem to ignore that fact.
 
The Amendment doesn't require a conviction for either an insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution. Expedite the Jan 6th indictment. Be that as it may, the Amendment doesn't say he can't run for office as a Republican or get elected. It bars him from holding office so there will be court challenges to his swearing in. The VP Candidate, if they didn't participate in the scheme to overturn the election, would be eligible if the Neo-GOP ticket wins imo.
It certainly does require conviction.
 
."..shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

Furthermore, no one was convicted of insurrection or rebellion in the Civil War but many were not allowed to hold office again.

Ok. Prove Trump engaged in an insurrection or rebellion. Everyone is entitled to due process.
 

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