Someone just blew up Ukraine’s Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant and took out a major dam

[Litwin]

loser

no, LOSER IS YOU , IVAN HE- BLOWER !

LOOKS LIKE YOUR MOSCOW BOSSES SOLD YOU IN THIS VIDEO :

 

[Lastamender]

no, LOSER IS YOU , IVAN HE- BLOWER !

LOOKS LIKE YOUR MOSCOW BOSSES SOLD YOU IN THIS VIDEO :

 

[Litwin]

 

[Ringo]

Who is profiting? What are their names? Where are you getting this information from? You obviously have a legit source right? I’ll wait.

After the Nuremberg Trials, or whatever it will be called now, the Kiev or Donetsk Trials, much will become clear. And some shameful information in the West will be shut down for 50 or 100 years, as usual.

 

[toobfreak]

no, LOSER IS YOU

Hows that war with Russia going, Litty? Just lost a damn, didja? Gee, that really kinda SUCKS. Don't cry though, it is just water under the bridge.

 

[Litwin]

Hows that war with Russia going,

VERY GOOD FOR US, VERY bad for the horde that why moscow did this war- crime

 

[MisterBeale]

Yes I do know a little about dams, a friend of mine operated Cushman #1 in Washington State until his retirement.

Who controls the floodgates controls the reservoir. That's been Russia for over a year. They let the water level rise over 3 months, from the low in February.

There isn't any flooding upstream of the reservoir- Ukraine didn't attack the dam by releasing the water from dams further up the river. That is something you are just making up.

Plus if Ukraine intended to blow the dam, it would have been done long ago. Not right at the opening of the counter-offensive. They needed that dam to cross the Dnipro and establish a bridgehead- and so long as that threat existed, it fixed Russian forces in Kherson.

This will shorten the defensive line that Russia has to worry about, and allow them to reinforce the positions in Zaphorizhia and southern Donetsk Oblasts, which have not been doing very well this past week under AFU probing.

Now you can put one of your smiley faces on this post, since that's the closest you can come to an actual rebuttal...

What would happen if the dam were blown? ​

". . .The consequences of a major attack on the Kakhovka dam would depend on how much of the structure was destroyed, experts told The Moscow Times.

In a catastrophic scenario, destroying the dam could send a highly destructive flood wave down the Dnipro River, causing severe flooding in large areas of southern Ukraine. Backswell would also likely flood the Inhulets River, a tributary of the Dnipro.

However, terrain levels mean the flooding would likely be worse on the Russian-held left bank of the Dnipro, making a detonation of explosives on the dam an unlikely move for Moscow.

"[Destroying the dam] would mean Russia essentially blowing its own foot off,” military analyst Michael Kofman said on the War on the Rocks podcast last month.

“[It] would flood the Russian-controlled part of Kherson [region]… much more than the western part that Ukrainians are likely to liberate."

And the secondary effects of blowing the dam could be just as severe for Russia.

Lowering the river level behind the dam threatens both water supplies to Moscow-annexed Crimea and risks cutting off access to cooling water for the Russian-controlled nuclear power plant in Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia region.

“Blowing the dam would also provoke international outcry,” analyst Black told The Moscow Times. “While it may slow Ukrainian troops’ advance in the south in the short-term, it could serve to further stiffen Ukrainian resolve and will-to-fight against Russian occupation in the long run.”

Explainer: Could Ukraine’s Kakhovka Dam Be Destroyed in Russia’s Kherson Retreat? - The Moscow Times

The Kakhovka dam in southern Ukraine has become the focus of intense speculation as Kyiv’s forces have pushed forward with a counteroffensive in the Kherson region in recent weeks. And this speculation has only intensified since Russia announced Wednesday that it would withdraw its forces from...

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Even from a pro-western, pro-Ukrainian POV? Your narrative that Russia would blow up this dam, makes about as much sense as claiming Russia would destroy their own gas pipeline.

 

[para bellum]

Sure! Ukraine is winning!

So when Biden asks for you to join the army and be sent over there, you won’t hesitate! Because the war is practically over, Ukraine is winning!

That's a nice strawman does he have a name?

A win for Ukraine means preventing Putin from achieving his war objectives. We can all see very clearly that Russia is in a quagmire. They know it, and I know you know it because you are relying on strawmen...

 

[Litwin]

Nuremberg Trials N2

waits you dirty ivan
Josef Stalin's secret police blew up a hydroelectric dam in the southern city of Zaporizhzhya to slow the Nazi advance.
The explosion flooded villages along the banks of the Dnieper River, killing thousands of civilians.
As Europe marks its Day of Remembrance for Victims of Stalinism and Nazism on August 23, a handful of Zaporizhzhya residents are battling for the recognition of the little-known wartime tragedy.
The day, which is also known as Black Ribbon Day outside Europe, coincides with the anniversary of the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of nonaggression between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.
Ukraine suffered heavy losses both during World War II and under Stalin.
The Zaporizhzhya events took place in August 1941. As Nazi troops approached the city, Moscow sent in agents from the NKVD, the predecessor of the KGB, to blow up the city's DniproHES hydroelectric dam.

Ukrainian Activists Draw Attention To Little-Known WWII Tragedy

As Europe marks its Day of Remembrance for Victims of Stalinism and Nazism on August 23, some Ukrainians are seeking to draw attention to a little-known wartime tragedy. In 1941, as Nazi German troops advanced through Ukraine, Soviet authorities blew up a hydroelectric dam in the southern city...

www.rferl.org

 

[Litwin]

were blown?

Moscow empire did it before as well
Josef Stalin's secret police blew up a hydroelectric dam in the southern city of Zaporizhzhya to slow the Nazi advance.

The explosion flooded villages along the banks of the Dnieper River, killing thousands of civilians.

As Europe marks its Day of Remembrance for Victims of Stalinism and Nazism on August 23, a handful of Zaporizhzhya residents are battling for the recognition of the little-known wartime tragedy.

The day, which is also known as Black Ribbon Day outside Europe, coincides with the anniversary of the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of nonaggression between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

Ukraine suffered heavy losses both during World War II and under Stalin.

The Zaporizhzhya events took place in August 1941. As Nazi troops approached the city, Moscow sent in agents from the NKVD, the predecessor of the KGB, to blow up the city's DniproHES hydroelectric dam.

Ukrainian Activists Draw Attention To Little-Known WWII Tragedy

As Europe marks its Day of Remembrance for Victims of Stalinism and Nazism on August 23, some Ukrainians are seeking to draw attention to a little-known wartime tragedy. In 1941, as Nazi German troops advanced through Ukraine, Soviet authorities blew up a hydroelectric dam in the southern city...

www.rferl.org

any comment on this ?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Read this morning

BREAKING: Hell Breaks Loose as Kakhovka Dam Completely Destroyed

Major news broke that the Nova Khakovka dam has been completely destroyed. This is the central, extremely important dam that was critical to the whole Kherson situation last year. It was the sole reason Russia retreated, as the threat of destroying the dam kept their troops on the right/western...

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Also this

MoA - Nova Kakhova Dam Breach - Updated (12:15 UTC)

www.moonofalabama.org

The ukie Nazis blew it up...

 

[krichton]

Sure! Ukraine is winning!

So when Biden asks for you to join the army and be sent over there, you won’t hesitate! Because the war is practically over, Ukraine is winning!

They're not? They just cut off freshwater to their own territory of Crimea just to slow the Ukrainians down.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

The ukies Nazi crying war crimes as NATO war games ramp up and lots of assests in area

Shit that makes ya go hummmm

 

[krichton]

After the Nuremberg Trials, or whatever it will be called now, the Kiev or Donetsk Trials, much will become clear. And some shameful information in the West will be shut down for 50 or 100 years, as usual.

So you have nothing but your own made up fantasies, gotcha. Duly noted.

 

[MisterBeale]

any comment on this ?

Sure, if you want to divert, and, "Poison the Well," as a form of debate? You really have no clue who you are messing with.



Most intelligent, sane, non-partisan folks, who are immune to the affects of war-propaganda? They can see much clearer than you. Your pathetic attempts? They are as transparent as a window.

Security Council Rejects Draft Resolution Establishing Commission to Investigate Sabotage of Nord Stream Pipeline | UN Press

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UN Security Council won’t probe Nord Stream blasts​

UN Security Council won't probe Nord Stream blasts

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. Security Council on Monday declined a Russian request to investigate the blasts on the pipelines that move natural gas from Russia to Europe under the Baltic Sea.

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"UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. Security Council on Monday declined a Russian request to investigate the blasts on the pipelines that move natural gas from Russia to Europe under the Baltic Sea.

Russia, China and Brazil voted in favor of the Russian request, but other Security Council members abstained or said another investigation was unnecessary.

For a resolution to be adopted by the U.N. Security Council, it needs a minimum of nine “yes” votes in the 15-member council, and no veto by one of the permanent members — the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France.

The U.S. deputy ambassador, Robert Wood, said there was no need for a U.N. probe when investigations by Sweden, Denmark and Germany “are proceeding in a comprehensive, transparent and impartial manner.”

 

[krichton]

Almost all of it. Ukraine’s military is about to collapse. Casualties are probably close to 500,000. Half the nation’s population has left. They’re running out of young men. Russia has control of eastern Ukraine (you somehow are unaware of this easily determined fact).

Russia could have leveled Kiev if they wanted to. They’ve been much more careful about causing civilian casualties and destroying infrastructure, as compared to the US military approach of killing and destroying everything.

Do you have a date for the vaunted Spring offensive? It seems it’s all talk.

Russia is careful of causing civilian casualties? Since when? That's part of their military doctrine. It's why they'll drop missiles on a train station with Ukrainian civilians waiting to leave. The date is being held up by the US because they are slow with delivering weapons that Kiev needs. It is what is. But I think Zelensky will forge ahead without them. I wonder what you will be saying when Russia loses Crimea and parts of southern Ukraine.

 

[toobfreak]

VERY GOOD FOR US

Very good for you? Good! Then maybe you will like all your damns and bridges and hospitals and power generating plants destroyed too! That'll just be GREAT, right?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Putin: Soviet collapse a 'genuine tragedy'

In his annual state of the nation address on Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin called the collapse of the Soviet empire “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.”

www.nbcnews.com

^ Uncle Joe! Adored by FDR who gave him all of Easter Europe

 

[para bellum]

Even from a pro-western, pro-Ukrainian POV? Your narrative that Russia would blow up this dam, makes about as much sense as claiming Russia would destroy their own gas pipeline.

Oh, they blew the dam out of desperation. They know if the AFU takes the left bank they would cut off the water to Crimea anyway, They can prevent the advance in Kherson and use those forces in Zaphorizhia.

The Russians weren't busy reacting to the flooding, they were shelling the people on the other side who were trying to evacuate.

Crimea isn't dry- they have reservoirs and they have pipelines on the Kerch Bridge that bring water and fuel.

Gee, it would be a shame of something happens to that bridge now...

 

[MisterBeale]

Oh, they blew the dam out of desperation. They know if the AFU takes the left bank they would cut off the water to Crimea anyway, They can prevent the advance in Kherson and use those forces in Zaphorizhia.

The Russians weren't busy reacting to the flooding, they were shelling the people on the other side who were trying to evacuate.

Crimea isn't dry- they have reservoirs and they have pipelines on the Kerch Bridge that bring water and fuel.

Gee, it would be a shame of something happens to that bridge now...

Neither of us really knows who did or did not do it.

If you claim to know, you are just a propagandist.

Here is the difference between us.

I condemn it no matter who did it.

If you found out that the Ukrainians did it? You would say, "by what ever means necessary."

But at this point? Neither of us have the forensic evidence to make, 100% positive declarative statements either way.