Some simple questions for Trump supporters

[Robert W]

1. Was the economy better in 1993 when Clinton took office or in 2001 when he left office?

Clinton was very fortunate that the Dot.com boom hit America so much many got rich from owning stocks. A look at the Clinton budgets will prove he was in the dark about the economy.

 

[hadit]

When Putin tells him, Trump will drop his pants and bend over....then Putin will incinerate all of us.

And he'll be remembered as "Czar Vladimer the Great"!

He didn't do anything during TRUMP!'s first term, instead waiting until he had somebody with whom he could more easily deal in office.

 

[hadit]

Clinton was very fortunate that the Dot.com boom hit America so much many got rich from owning stocks. A look at the Clinton budgets will prove he was in the dark about the economy.

And he had a hostile Congress willing to hold the line on exploding the budget.

 

[Concerned American]

Clinton was very fortunate that the Dot.com boom hit America so much many got rich from owning stocks. A look at the Clinton budgets will prove he was in the dark about the economy.

The dot com crash did away with that.

 

[Marener]

I've already provided you with EIA data that proves everything I asserted.

I'll just point out one. NO economy has ever benefitted from exploding the money supply. It does nothing but reduce the value of the currency without an equal increase in what the currency is backed by. In the US case, GDP. Biden blew up the money supply without corresponding increase in GDP. Come back in four years.

The money supply is controlled by the Fed and exploded in 2020.

During the Trump administration, M2 money supply increased from 13 to 19 trillion. Since Biden took office, it peaked at 21 trillion and contracted slightly.

M2

View data of a measure of the U.S. money supply that includes all components of M1 plus several less-liquid assets.

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Again, money supply is determined by the Fed, not the president.

Also under the Biden administration, GDP increased from 22 trillion to 29 trillion.

 

[Concerned American]

During the Trump administration

The democrat congress holds the purse strings and creates the budget moron. Just STFU, every time you open your pie hole you say something that further proves your stupidity.

 

[Marener]

The democrat congress holds the purse strings and creates the budget moron. Just STFU, every time you open your pie hole you say something that further proves your stupidity.

You JUST claimed that it was Biden, now you’re saying it was Congress, which under Trump was not completely controlled by Dems as the Senate was under control by Republicans.

Yet again, the federal reserve controls money supply. Not politicians.

 

[Robert W]

Also under the Biden administration, GDP increased from 22 trillion to 29 trillion.

The head of the Feds was put there by Donald Trump. Credit him for the increase.

 

[Marener]

The head of the Feds was put there by Donald Trump. Credit him for the increase.

I don’t think any one person can take credit for the growth in the economy. One thing is for sure, the economy is growing nicely. However, if you asked most republicans, they’re probably incorrectly tell you the opposite.

The Fed made a lot of decisions and is a big reason we saw as much inflation as we did.

 

[elektra]

The EIA came up with it, same way they always have. Data is great, isn’t it?

Data don't mean shit when the majority of gas purchases are at $4 a gallon

 

[Robert W]

I don’t think any one person can take credit for the growth in the economy. One thing is for sure, the economy is growing nicely.

He told you all that Biden did not improve the economy.

 

[Marener]

Data don't mean shit when the majority of gas purchases are at $4 a gallon

Where is the data to support this?

 

[Marener]

He told you all that Biden did not improve the economy.

An unsupported allegation. Biden passed legislation to support domestic investment through infrastructure and manufacturing.

Supposedly we were to have a recession because of Biden. Why didn’t that happen?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

We all know that one of Trump's main campaign issues was criticism of the economy under Biden. The assumption seemed to be that the economy would get better under Trump and due to trump's policies.

But if you voted for Trump based on that, please answer the following questions:

1. Was the economy better in 1993 when Clinton took office or in 2001 when he left office?

2. Was the economy better in 2001 when Bush took office or in 2009 when Bush left office?

3. Was the economy better in 2009 when Obama took office or in 2017 when Obama left office?

4. Was the economy better in 2017 when Trump took office or in 2021 when Trump left office?

5. Was the economy better in 2021 when Biden took office or now in 2024?

Do ya see a pattern here?

Do ya think that perhaps you've been dup'd again?

Let the lame excuses begin!

Didn’t start following politics closely til 2015. Not sure what you’re getting at but wokism and DEI won’t improve our economy.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I don’t think any one person can take credit for the growth in the economy. One thing is for sure, the economy is growing nicely. However, if you asked most republicans, they’re probably incorrectly tell you the opposite.

The Fed made a lot of decisions and is a big reason we saw as much inflation as we did.

You’re an idiot. You look at stats versus reality. GFY. Middle class is struggling. Biden sucked. And Harris would have been worse. The voters have spoken.

‘A tale of 2 economies': Wages are going up. Why do we feel like we can't afford anything?

A majority of Americans, around 64%, saw an increase in wages between October 2022 and October 2023. But if most workers saw bigger paychecks, why do so many people still feel like everything is too expensive?

www.nbcwashington.com

 

[Stann]

Yup. Awseome, isn't it. And pave the way for 8 years of Vance. I don't think the magnitude of your cult's fuckup has sunk in yet. LOL

There's no way around it , this time Trump's administration is going to put the national debt clear out of sight. We can't afford trump. Definitely over 50 trillion. Unsustainable already , he'll usher in the biggest bankruptcy in the hisstory of the world. It will take generations , if we can recover from it.

 

[elektra]

Where is the data to support this?

I am a witness, data don't pump my gas

 

[Marener]

You’re an idiot. You look at stats versus reality. GFY. Middle class is struggling. Biden sucked. And Harris would have been worse. The voters have spoken.

Stats aren’t reality? It’s more reality than people’s feelings.

Working class wages have gone up like 20% in the last 4 years.

Average Hourly Earnings of Production and Nonsupervisory Employees, Total Private

Graph and download economic data for Average Hourly Earnings of Production and Nonsupervisory Employees, Total Private (AHETPI) from Jan 1964 to Oct 2024 about nonsupervisory, headline figure, earnings, average, establishment survey, hours, wages, production, private, employment, and USA.

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[Marener]

I am a witness, data don't pump my gas

But you said most gas purchases were over $4. Did you mean most of YOUR gas purchases were over $4?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Stats aren’t reality? It’s more reality than people’s feelings.

Working class wages have gone up like 20% in the last 4 years.

Average Hourly Earnings of Production and Nonsupervisory Employees, Total Private

Graph and download economic data for Average Hourly Earnings of Production and Nonsupervisory Employees, Total Private (AHETPI) from Jan 1964 to Oct 2024 about nonsupervisory, headline figure, earnings, average, establishment survey, hours, wages, production, private, employment, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

That’s bullshit. Already posted the article stating as such. Inflation outpaced wages. People can’t afford a home. Credit card debt is at an all time high. You’re living in a fantasy world.