Some simple questions for Trump supporters

[Marener]

That’s bullshit. Already posted the article stating as such. Inflation outpaced wages. People can’t afford a home. Credit card debt is at an all time high. You’re living in a fantasy world.

Your data is over a year old and from a single survey which is definitely far less quality data than the BLS.

Interest rates are keeping housing expensive, and those are coming down because inflation is under control. Trump literally has nothing to do to fix this. It’s already fixed.

Credit card debt always goes up. It reached all time highs in 2019 too but none of you guys said it was a problem.

You’re cherry picking data to support a narrative. It’s bad economics.

 

[Concerned American]

That’s bullshit. Already posted the article stating as such. Inflation outpaced wages. People can’t afford a home. Credit card debt is at an all time high. You’re living in a fantasy world.

You can't argue with moroner. She is ignorant of most anything and will continue to spout nonsense until she gets the last word no matter how stupid it is. Just let her have the last word and she'll go away.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Your data is over a year old and from a single survey which is definitely far less quality data than the BLS.

Interest rates are keeping housing expensive, and those are coming down because inflation is under control. Trump literally has nothing to do to fix this. It’s already fixed.

Credit card debt always goes up. It reached all time highs in 2019 too but none of you guys said it was a problem.

You’re cherry picking data to support a narrative. It’s bad economics.

You truly are a Moron. Honestly. How do you tie your shoes being as stupid as you. Stop looking at macro data and look at micro data. People are struggling.

As “Bidenflation” Robs Workers’ Wages, Biden Wants to Send Them a Bigger Tax Bill – Ways and Means

waysandmeans.house.gov

 

[Concerned American]

Your data is over a year old and from a single survey which is definitely far less quality data than the BLS.

The BLS that has given pie in the sky reports every time they've reported this year---only to revise them down substantially within weeks. Sure, quality. ROTFLMFAO.

 

[Rawley]

There's no way around it , this time Trump's administration is going to put the national debt clear out of sight. We can't afford trump. Definitely over 50 trillion. Unsustainable already , he'll usher in the biggest bankruptcy in the hisstory of the world. It will take generations , if we can recover from it.

Don't worry, he'll have all of you in prison by then and we'll take care of your food, clothing and housing.

 

[Marener]

You truly are a Moron. Honestly. How do you tie your shoes being as stupid as you. Stop looking at macro data and look at micro data. People are struggling.

As “Bidenflation” Robs Workers’ Wages, Biden Wants to Send Them a Bigger Tax Bill – Ways and Means

waysandmeans.house.gov

Now you’re linking to Republican talking points. That’s not exactly critical thinking, it’s just propaganda.

Wages are above pre pandemic levels when adjusted for inflation.

Employed full time: Median usual weekly real earnings: Wage and salary workers: 16 years and over

Graph and download economic data for Employed full time: Median usual weekly real earnings: Wage and salary workers: 16 years and over (LES1252881600Q) from Q1 1979 to Q4 2024 about full-time, salaries, workers, earnings, 16 years +, wages, median, real, employment, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

What is the “micro” data exactly?

 

[Marener]

The BLS that has given pie in the sky reports every time they've reported this year---only to revise them down substantially within weeks. Sure, quality. ROTFLMFAO.

Revising data is exactly what makes them so high quality. Duh.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Revising data is exactly what makes them so high quality. Duh.

Being consistently wrong and then having to adjust it on a Friday late at night makes them not quality

 

[Concerned American]

Revising data is exactly what makes them so high quality. Duh.

Even when they go counter to your talking point?

 

[Marener]

Being consistently wrong and then having to adjust it on a Friday late at night makes them not quality

This is a pretty ignorant opinion. The entire financial sector works off this data. There is not better source.

 

[BluesLegend]

We all know that one of Trump's main campaign issues was criticism of the economy under Biden. The assumption seemed to be that the economy would get better under Trump and due to trump's policies.

But if you voted for Trump based on that, please answer the following questions:

1. Was the economy better in 1993 when Clinton took office or in 2001 when he left office?

2. Was the economy better in 2001 when Bush took office or in 2009 when Bush left office?

3. Was the economy better in 2009 when Obama took office or in 2017 when Obama left office?

4. Was the economy better in 2017 when Trump took office or in 2021 when Trump left office?

5. Was the economy better in 2021 when Biden took office or now in 2024?

Do ya see a pattern here?

Do ya think that perhaps you've been dup'd again?

Let the lame excuses begin!

Your question is simpleton and 3rd grade. You will understand when your all grown up.

 

[MisterBeale]

Because the subprime mortgages drove up property values, when it crashed, people lost jobs and property values tanked which affected all lenders, even if they were being very responsible.

Since that bailout, they’ve paid back all the money to the government and then some.

But who is going to pay the taxpayers back?

The House Financial Services committee even states that Fannie and Freddie were corrupt as hell, and yet there you sit, in total and complete denial.

". . . While Fannie and Freddie’s role in the financial crisis is widely acknowledged, what some may have forgotten is how rank cronyism, Enron-style accounting and outright financial fraud made these GSEs so powerful and unaccountable that they were able to wreck our economy.

Beginning in the late 1990s, executive pay at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac became tied almost solely to earnings growth. So in order to trigger maximum bonus payouts for themselves, top management at the firms cooked the books to make it appear the companies were producing enough corporate earnings.

And meeting the “affordable housing” goals mandated by Congress also enabled these executives “to keep their lush government perks and pay packages.” (See Reckless Endangerment, Pg. 247)

When the fraud was finally detected, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) issued a scathing report calling the corporate culture created by the executives “unethical.” The report noted:

"Senior management manipulated accounting; reaped maximum, undeserved bonuses; and prevented the rest of the world from knowing."
"The combination of earnings manipulation, mismanagement and unconstrained growth resulted in an estimated $10.6 billion of losses, well over a billion dollars in expenses to fix the problems, and ill-gotten bonuses in the hundreds of millions of dollars."
"As a government-sponsored enterprise, Fannie Mae has a unique position among American corporations ... It is also the second largest borrower in the world, only behind the U.S. government. As such, Fannie Mae has a special mandate and position of public trust. The previous management team violated that trust and did serious harm to Fannie Mae." (OFHEO Report: "Fannie Mae Facade," 5/23/06)

OFHEO issued a separate report detailing numerous examples of improper accounting practices at Freddie Mac and pointed to improper trades designed to mislead investors and trigger big bonuses for top executives. The report noted Freddie Mac executives had an “obsession” with earnings growth that came “at the expense of proper accounting policies and strong accounting controls.”


AND. . . here is the report on all that corruption, which, I am sure no one ever paid their debt to society for.


Report of the Special Examination of
Freddie Mac

https://web.archive.org/web/20101125102608/http://www.fhfa.gov/webfiles/749/specialreport122003.pdf

 

[Marener]

Even when they go counter to your talking point?

I base my opinion on the data. I know that’s hard for you to understand because you base your opinion on feelings.

 

[Marener]

But who is going to pay the taxpayers back?

The House Financial Services committee even states that Fannie and Freddie were corrupt as hell, and yet there you sit, in total and complete denial.

What are you talking about? We’ve already been paid back.

Lots to complain about but it was private banking that was the vast majority of the cause of the subprime crisis. We had GSEs for decades but didn’t make a bubble until private banks got really heavily involved.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Now you’re linking to Republican talking points. That’s not exactly critical thinking, it’s just propaganda.

Wages are above pre pandemic levels when adjusted for inflation.

Employed full time: Median usual weekly real earnings: Wage and salary workers: 16 years and over

Graph and download economic data for Employed full time: Median usual weekly real earnings: Wage and salary workers: 16 years and over (LES1252881600Q) from Q1 1979 to Q4 2024 about full-time, salaries, workers, earnings, 16 years +, wages, median, real, employment, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

What is the “micro” data exactly?

Micro meaning talking to each and every household that overwhelmingly voted Trump

Look at your own earnings and expenses. Ask your friends and neighbors

Study: Wages Are Still Losing In The Post-Pandemic Inflation Race | Bankrate

Since Jan. 1, 2021, prices have risen 20.0 percent, compared with a 17.4 percent increase in wages, Bankrate’s Wage To Inflation Index found.

www.bankrate.com

 

[OldFlame]

Gas is $2.70 was where I live. And hasn't been over 3.50 for well over a year.

And grocery prices are down here too

Where would that be?

 

[Concerned American]

I base my opinion on the data. I know that’s hard for you to understand because you base your opinion on feelings.

You only look through your blinders. I and others on here have proven you WRONG on any post you've ever made. Repeating the same ignorant garbage over and over does not make it true. You would think that you would understand that after witnessing the Harris beat down after she used the same tactic. Now go ahead and post the last word. I give you permission.

 

[Marener]

You only look through your blinders. I and others on here have proven you WRONG on any post you've ever made. Repeating the same ignorant garbage over and over does not make it true. You would think that you would understand that after witnessing the Harris beat down after she used the same tactic. Now go ahead and post the last word. I give you permission.

I back my statements up with data and logic. You back your statements up with nothing but petty insults.

 

[Concerned American]

Where would that be?

It has been that way in ID. Currently, gas is $3.70 in Spokane while thirty miles away in Coeur d'Alene, ID it is $2.86. WA is the only state that democrats advanced in the nation. SMH.

 

[struth]

We all know that one of Trump's main campaign issues was criticism of the economy under Biden. The assumption seemed to be that the economy would get better under Trump and due to trump's policies.

But if you voted for Trump based on that, please answer the following questions:

1. Was the economy better in 1993 when Clinton took office or in 2001 when he left office?

2. Was the economy better in 2001 when Bush took office or in 2009 when Bush left office?

3. Was the economy better in 2009 when Obama took office or in 2017 when Obama left office?

4. Was the economy better in 2017 when Trump took office or in 2021 when Trump left office?

5. Was the economy better in 2021 when Biden took office or now in 2024?

Do ya see a pattern here?

Do ya think that perhaps you've been dup'd again?

Let the lame excuses begin!

Where Americans better off under trump or under harris and xiden? The answer is, better under trump

Hence why you all lost bigly