Some simple questions for Trump supporters

[SassyIrishLass]

Lefties have short memories but the 2009 collapse of the economy happened when democrats took control of the "House Banking Committee' and Barney Frank became chairperson. The scam that was perpetrated under the Clinton administration where bad mortgage loans would be combined with good loans and sold as good loans finally took Fannie Mae under and the economy with it. The fear among the American majority that elected Trump in an electoral landslide is that democrats will create some dirty trick in the next 70 days to punish Americans for electing Trump.

In fact Bush warned them it was going to crash

 

[MisterBeale]

We’ve already been paid back.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

 

[Marener]

Micro meaning talking to each and every household that overwhelmingly voted Trump

Look at your own earnings and expenses. Ask your friends and neighbors

Study: Wages Are Still Losing In The Post-Pandemic Inflation Race | Bankrate

Since Jan. 1, 2021, prices have risen 20.0 percent, compared with a 17.4 percent increase in wages, Bankrate’s Wage To Inflation Index found.

www.bankrate.com

It’s absurd to suggest that we could or would talk to tens of millions of households.
As for your survey, I find someone’s opinion of inflation to be far less useful than the actual data.

Asking someone if their wages have kept up with inflation is extremely unscientific and not very data driven. It’s an opinion.

It’s best to sit down and actually look at prices. Actually look are pay stubs. That’s what the government does. That’s not what Bankrate does.

 

[MisterBeale]

We had GSEs for decades but didn’t make a bubble until private banks got really heavily involved.

I skimmed the actual report from the government, it is telling you that you live in a fantasy world.

 

[HikerGuy83]

So you think it's just coincidence that there is a major economic collapse at the end of every Republican's term?

Guess again!

Every Republican had a covid Pandemic to deal with ?

Who knew ?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It’s absurd to suggest that we could or would talk to tens of millions of households.
As for your survey, I find someone’s opinion of inflation to be far less useful than the actual data.

Asking someone if their wages have kept up with inflation is extremely unscientific and not very data driven. It’s an opinion.

It’s best to sit down and actually look at prices. Actually look are pay stubs. That’s what the government does. That’s not what Bankrate does.

Why not? Don’t like what you ll see? The Bankrate data says you’re full of it. You lost again, leftist.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Do ya think that perhaps you've been dup'd again?

Well, while I know things were bad under Obama, I wouldn't say he tried to dupe us.

If you think letting Harris continue the disaster they called Bidenomics would have getting duped....well yes it would have been.

Fortunately, that didn't happen.

By the way, what are your metrics for a good economy. Be great to hear.

If it means that inflation went nuts, then Biden rocked the place.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Your wasting your time. Trumptards are too stupid to c o their own research so they believe whatever BS far right blogs and propaganda sites tell them, and according to those sites, Biden has collapsed the economy worse than Hoover and Bush combined.


They don't care about the real numbers. They are Trump's loyal sheep who will believe whatever they are told.

Global inflation was on the rise and the Fed had to increase interest rates in 2020 when Biden-Harris took office. The issue I have with Biden-Harris was that in the face of this which was out of their control, they exacerbated the impact of inflation on us by increasing more regulations and restrictions on domestic energy companies and pursuing egregious spending bills.

All the years you point out to show a trend, how about average gas prices under Bush were lower than average gas prices under Obama? Average gas prices under Trump were lower than average gas prices under Biden.

Clinton gave us a great economy once he had a Republican Congress to give him cover from the radical Lefties in his party.

 

[Marener]

I skimmed the actual report from the government, it is telling you that you live in a fantasy world.

Your report from 2003 is hardly useful to inform us on the causes of the subprime bubble.

The fact remains that the majority of subprime were written by mortgage brokers and sold to private investors, having nothing to do with GSEs or CRA.

 

[Marener]

Why not? Don’t like what you ll see? The Bankrate data says you’re full of it. You lost again, leftist.

It’s not data, it’s an opinion survey and where it contradicts actual data, Im going to go with the higher quality source with far better quantitative data.

That’s just logic. Why should I do otherwise?

 

[Robert W]

Biden passed legislation to support domestic investment through infrastructure and manufacturing.

You really think those trillions will return to we Americans? Did you bother deep studying the budget you now praise?

 

[Robert W]

The fact remains that the majority of subprime were written by mortgage brokers and sold to private investors, having nothing to do with GSEs or CRA.

I was for many years a Mortgage Broker and though we got daily Faxes from wholesalers, if the client was not very credit worthy, of course some Brokers did them for owners of real estate. The wholesalers we delivered loans to paid the clients at Escrow and used standards handed to them by higher up buyers of those loans. The upper crust named terms and conditions to the Wholesalers who used Faxes as a rule to show what was acceptable to them.
The largest of all problem with most of the clients was their funds came from giant wholesalers who did not generally offer subprimes. They had plenty of great credit worthy customers we sent up to them.
Bush went to Congress many times to explain to Congress a crash could happen. And he told them how to prevent it. They refused to listen to him. Democrats shut out Bush.

 

[Marener]

Bush went to Congress many times to explain to Congress a crash could happen. And he told them how to prevent it. They refused to listen to him. Democrats shut out Bush.

Link?

The standards from the higher up’s fell dramatically during the subprime crisis. This is hardly up for debate.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It’s not data, it’s an opinion survey and where it contradicts actual data, Im going to go with the higher quality source with far better quantitative data.

That’s just logic. Why should I do otherwise?

Yeah because data may be manipulated while how people actually get by is fact. You lose, again leftist. Logic is Democrats got voted out.

 

[The Duke]

We all know that one of Trump's main campaign issues was criticism of the economy under Biden. The assumption seemed to be that the economy would get better under Trump and due to trump's policies.

But if you voted for Trump based on that, please answer the following questions:

1. Was the economy better in 1993 when Clinton took office or in 2001 when he left office?

2. Was the economy better in 2001 when Bush took office or in 2009 when Bush left office?

3. Was the economy better in 2009 when Obama took office or in 2017 when Obama left office?

4. Was the economy better in 2017 when Trump took office or in 2021 when Trump left office?

5. Was the economy better in 2021 when Biden took office or now in 2024?

Do ya see a pattern here?

Do ya think that perhaps you've been dup'd again?

Let the lame excuses begin!

Question for OP:
Why are you a faggot?

 

[Marener]

Yeah because data may be manipulated while how people actually get by is fact. You lose, again leftist. Logic is Democrats got voted out.

Was the data manipulated or are you just making excuses?

People’s opinion is not fact.

 

[Rambunctious]

So? Answer the question:

Was the economy better in 2021 when Biden took office or is it better in 2024 (i.e. 'now')

Why and how can you ignore the covid shutdowns?... thousands were put out of work.... and it took nearly 3.5 years for Biden to just get those jobs back... The economy sucks right now and its why Harris lost... you dems had better get enlightened about what the working class thinks or you will lose even more seats in 26...
That's my answer...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Was the data manipulated or are you just making excuses?

People’s opinion is not fact.

Easy they play the macro game. Wages have yet to catch up to the 20% cumulative inflation. Wages also have taxes taken out and of course higher medical copays. You are dumber than a tree stump.

 

[Marener]

Easy they play the macro game. Wages have yet to catch up to the 20% cumulative inflation. Wages also have taxes taken out and of course higher medical copays. You are dumber than a tree stump.

Data says that wages have kept up with cumulative inflation. Healthcare costs are definitely a part of inflation that you mentioned. Tax brackets and deductions are indexed for inflation.

Any more non-factual excuses?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Data says that wages have kept up with cumulative inflation. Healthcare costs are definitely a part of inflation that you mentioned. Tax brackets and deductions are indexed for inflation.

Any more non-factual excuses?

No it doesn’t. You’re an idiot. 16% versus 20%. No they aren’t. Again you’re wrong.