Some perspective

[colfax_m]

all this covid hysteria is unfounded and designed to turn the population into compliant sheep.

No. It’s witnessing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and trying to do the right thing by preventing hundreds of thousands of more.

You panic porn clowns aren't preventing jack shit....The virus is going to spread until herd immunity is reached, whether you shrinking violets stay sequestered in your bunkers or not.

Data says otherwise. It would be more effective if it weren’t for attitudes like yours.

Whose data?...Be specific.

I guess you didn't get the memo that the "pandemic" is already a memory in Sweden, where they engaged in none of this bunker mentality foolisness.

Here’s one example from researchers at University of Iowa.

https://www.healthaffairs.o

all this covid hysteria is unfounded and designed to turn the population into compliant sheep.

No. It’s witnessing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and trying to do the right thing by preventing hundreds of thousands of more.

You panic porn clowns aren't preventing jack shit....The virus is going to spread until herd immunity is reached, whether you shrinking violets stay sequestered in your bunkers or not.

Data says otherwise. It would be more effective if it weren’t for attitudes like yours.

Whose data?...Be specific.

I guess you didn't get the memo that the "pandemic" is already a memory in Sweden, where they engaged in none of this bunker mentality foolisness.

Here’s one example from researchers at University of Iowa.

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/pdf/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

rg/doi/pdf/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Did you read any of that for comprehension?

Supposedly slowing growth rates of the spread has nothing to do with the fact that it will eventually spread no matter what you do.

How do you know it’ll spread no matter what?

It's a fucking virus, you simpleton....That's how they work.

“That’s how they work” is your explanation and I’m the simpleton?

With all due respect, I don’t think you know how they work.

So you don't think viruses spread and there are 700 genders......what do you feel about gravity? Do you agree with Don Lemon that a black hole on Earth could have swallowed the Indonesian Flight?

Sounds like you are having a conversation with a voice in your head, not me.

What we're having is a conversation with a medical dilettante, who thinks that throwing up a few college studies that he hasn't even read all the way through, let alone understands, makes him a savant.

You asked me for the data and I showed you. Sounds like you’re just mad because you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Unlike you, I actually read and comprehended the data....Then I pointed out where you completely misread it (on purpose) to support your politics.

Also, unlike you, I have some relevant medical training.

I'm not mad, and you know absolutely nothing of which you're trying -and failing- to speak of.

I have far more medical training than you. Slowing the spread of a virus to the point that the R0 value falls below 1 would stop the virus and save many lives.

Well it's great you tout credentials we can't verify....and this terminology really sounds official.....but if we know this, how long has the common cold and the flu been around....and we still get them......correct?

Good example. Not everyone gets influenza every year, right?

No they don't and not everyone has gotten COVID.....but people still get the flu, it's been around for atleast 100 years, most likely more.

True. And it’s constantly changing in large part because of recombination in an animal reservoir.

But as we know, not everyone gets influenza and not everyone needs to get COVID.

 

[colfax_m]

all this covid hysteria is unfounded and designed to turn the population into compliant sheep.

No. It’s witnessing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and trying to do the right thing by preventing hundreds of thousands of more.

You panic porn clowns aren't preventing jack shit....The virus is going to spread until herd immunity is reached, whether you shrinking violets stay sequestered in your bunkers or not.

Data says otherwise. It would be more effective if it weren’t for attitudes like yours.

Whose data?...Be specific.

I guess you didn't get the memo that the "pandemic" is already a memory in Sweden, where they engaged in none of this bunker mentality foolisness.

Here’s one example from researchers at University of Iowa.

https://www.healthaffairs.o

all this covid hysteria is unfounded and designed to turn the population into compliant sheep.

No. It’s witnessing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and trying to do the right thing by preventing hundreds of thousands of more.

You panic porn clowns aren't preventing jack shit....The virus is going to spread until herd immunity is reached, whether you shrinking violets stay sequestered in your bunkers or not.

Data says otherwise. It would be more effective if it weren’t for attitudes like yours.

Whose data?...Be specific.

I guess you didn't get the memo that the "pandemic" is already a memory in Sweden, where they engaged in none of this bunker mentality foolisness.

Here’s one example from researchers at University of Iowa.

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/pdf/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

rg/doi/pdf/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Did you read any of that for comprehension?

Supposedly slowing growth rates of the spread has nothing to do with the fact that it will eventually spread no matter what you do.

How do you know it’ll spread no matter what?

Because It's an airborne pathogenic virus, It is spread via air droplets or contact with ANY object which comes into contact withe the virus, door knob, coffee pot, anything. It will not be stopped just delayed.

Unless, of course, we institute measures to prevent those particles laden with virus from coming into contact with others.

Like, I don’t know, maybe something that covers the places that those droplets exit from the body.

I’m just brainstorming here.

Don't brainstorm, go and take a microbiology class or two.

I got it. Let’s have people wear masks that stop airborne pathogens from landing on surfaces and infecting others.

But the masks can't stop smoke particles, so how are they going to stop virus particles that are much smaller?

Uh, the virus doesn’t spread on smoke. It spreads on water droplets which are quite a bit larger.

 

[candycorn]

world wide deaths Jan 1 2020 thru Sept 25 2020

covid 992,015
HIV/aids 1,273,442
alcohol 1,841,083
smoking 3,679,849
cancer 6,045,610
hunger 8,232,672
abortion 31,324,393



annual deaths in the USA

2018 2,839,205
2019 2,855,000
2020 thru sept 2,033,736

all this covid hysteria is unfounded and designed to turn the population into compliant sheep.

Makes you wonder why your god declared a national emergency.

 

[ImAlwaysRight]

Don't brainstorm, go and take a microbiology class or two.

He obviously has no medical training....I was a lowly EMT-I and know more of what I'm talking about and reading than this buffoon.

EMT's are not lowly, they are first responders and their actions save lives.

 

[candycorn]

you are a complete idiot, moonbeam. go find a kiddie forum to play on, you are not up to this one mentally.

Evident by yer response you already are playing wit da kidz...

idiot, you cannot even spell or use proper grammar. you are the perfect liberal, dumb and compliant. just the kind of sheep the dems and libs want.

You should start a sentence with a capital letter.

 

[colfax_m]

Don't brainstorm, go and take a microbiology class or two.

He obviously has no medical training....I was a lowly EMT-I and know more of what I'm talking about and reading than this buffoon.

EMT's are not lowly, they are first responders and their actions save lives.

I agree 100%. EMTs are extremely valuable in their role.

 

[sartre play]

Make me understand? Is what you are saying is people die every year from every possible thing you can imagine, so this virus should be treated as no big deal?

 

[Oddball]

world wide deaths Jan 1 2020 thru Sept 25 2020

covid 992,015
HIV/aids 1,273,442
alcohol 1,841,083
smoking 3,679,849
cancer 6,045,610
hunger 8,232,672
abortion 31,324,393



annual deaths in the USA

2018 2,839,205
2019 2,855,000
2020 thru sept 2,033,736

all this covid hysteria is unfounded and designed to turn the population into compliant sheep.

Makes you wonder why your god declared a national emergency.

To "flatten the curve", so hospitals wouldn't be overrun...We are now well past six months of meeting that criteria, and you peddlers of panic porn keep moving the goalposts.

 

[ImAlwaysRight]

world wide deaths Jan 1 2020 thru Sept 25 2020

covid 992,015
HIV/aids 1,273,442
alcohol 1,841,083
smoking 3,679,849
cancer 6,045,610
hunger 8,232,672
abortion 31,324,393



annual deaths in the USA

2018 2,839,205
2019 2,855,000
2020 thru sept 2,033,736

all this covid hysteria is unfounded and designed to turn the population into compliant sheep.

Makes you wonder why your god declared a national emergency.

Nothing to wonder about. We needed time to learn about the virus, effective treatments, develop a vaccine and minimize to the extent possible the number of deaths. Remember, China provided nothing but misinformation from the get go. According to China, human transmission was not supposed to happen.

 

[candycorn]

world wide deaths Jan 1 2020 thru Sept 25 2020

covid 992,015
HIV/aids 1,273,442
alcohol 1,841,083
smoking 3,679,849
cancer 6,045,610
hunger 8,232,672
abortion 31,324,393



annual deaths in the USA

2018 2,839,205
2019 2,855,000
2020 thru sept 2,033,736

all this covid hysteria is unfounded and designed to turn the population into compliant sheep.

Makes you wonder why your god declared a national emergency.

Nothing to wonder about. We needed time to learn about the virus, effective treatments, develop a vaccine and minimize to the extent possible the number of deaths. Remember, China provided nothing but misinformation from the get go. According to China Human transmission was not supposed to happen.

Trump provided nothing but misinformation from the get go as well.

Remember when he said it will disappear with warmer weather? Remember when he said we'd have close to zero cases? Remember when he said that it will disappear like a miracle? Remember all the times he contradicted his own CDC by not wearing a mask when not socially distancing? Remember when his DHS forced unscreened passengers to stand for hours on end shoulder to shoulder with other travelers because they routed everyone through 13 airports and didn't have enough screeners on the ground; at the same time his CDC was telling everyone to socially distance?

 

[ImAlwaysRight]

world wide deaths Jan 1 2020 thru Sept 25 2020

covid 992,015
HIV/aids 1,273,442
alcohol 1,841,083
smoking 3,679,849
cancer 6,045,610
hunger 8,232,672
abortion 31,324,393



annual deaths in the USA

2018 2,839,205
2019 2,855,000
2020 thru sept 2,033,736

all this covid hysteria is unfounded and designed to turn the population into compliant sheep.

Makes you wonder why your god declared a national emergency.

Nothing to wonder about. We needed time to learn about the virus, effective treatments, develop a vaccine and minimize to the extent possible the number of deaths. Remember, China provided nothing but misinformation from the get go. According to China Human transmission was not supposed to happen.

Trump provided nothing but misinformation from the get go as well.

Remember when he said it will disappear with warmer weather? Remember when he said we'd have close to zero cases? Remember when he said that it will disappear like a miracle? Remember all the times he contradicted his own CDC by not wearing a mask when not socially distancing? Remember when his DHS forced unscreened passengers to stand for hours on end shoulder to shoulder with other travelers because they routed everyone through 13 airports and didn't have enough screeners on the ground; at the same time his CDC was telling everyone to socially distance?

Trump is not a scientist nor does he have a medical background so he relied on information from scientific advisors. Initially, as the scientific community was learning about the virus Trump was given misinformation. We heard much of this conflicting and incorrect information ourselves from supposed experts via media outlets, WHO and even the CDC.

 

[candycorn]

world wide deaths Jan 1 2020 thru Sept 25 2020

covid 992,015
HIV/aids 1,273,442
alcohol 1,841,083
smoking 3,679,849
cancer 6,045,610
hunger 8,232,672
abortion 31,324,393



annual deaths in the USA

2018 2,839,205
2019 2,855,000
2020 thru sept 2,033,736

all this covid hysteria is unfounded and designed to turn the population into compliant sheep.

Makes you wonder why your god declared a national emergency.

Nothing to wonder about. We needed time to learn about the virus, effective treatments, develop a vaccine and minimize to the extent possible the number of deaths. Remember, China provided nothing but misinformation from the get go. According to China Human transmission was not supposed to happen.

Trump provided nothing but misinformation from the get go as well.

Remember when he said it will disappear with warmer weather? Remember when he said we'd have close to zero cases? Remember when he said that it will disappear like a miracle? Remember all the times he contradicted his own CDC by not wearing a mask when not socially distancing? Remember when his DHS forced unscreened passengers to stand for hours on end shoulder to shoulder with other travelers because they routed everyone through 13 airports and didn't have enough screeners on the ground; at the same time his CDC was telling everyone to socially distance?

Trump is not a scientist nor does he have a medical background so he relied on information from scientific advisors. Initially, as the scientific community was learning about the virus Trump was given misinformation. We heard much of this conflicting and incorrect information ourselves from supposed experts via media outlets, WHO and even the CDC.

Wow...seriously?

Please show us any expert that told him there would be a "miracle".... after that, please tell us any expert who said there would be "zero cases"....after that please explain how he allowed one part of his administration to put out a policy (no science degree involved) of social distancing while another part of his administration forced people to stand for hours on end at 13 airports across the nation because they didn't have enough screeners?

 

[Oddball]

Don't brainstorm, go and take a microbiology class or two.

He obviously has no medical training....I was a lowly EMT-I and know more of what I'm talking about and reading than this buffoon.

EMT's are not lowly, they are first responders and their actions save lives.

True as that is, EMS is still on the bottom rungs of the medical profession.

Even someone in that position can see how full of shit colfucks is.