Some inconvenient facts for EV cheerleaders!!

[Dagosa]

Fossil fuels will be around for decades....including coal btw. Cheap.... reliable....winning

Tney’ll be around like whale oil was for lamps after they discovered petroleum deposited. Gessus, even oil companies are getting into renewables because it’s too expensive to generate electricity with them to make fossil fuels.

Oh...and this minor inconvenience to the AGW Oz navigators....

This is the indicator of ignorance. You think you’re smarter then every reaserch facility in the world, every country, every major religion and ever related corporation. You can tell us one major corporation of climate research facility in the world that aagrees with you...none, not one.

The entire world economy is predicated upon one thing only: fossil fuels. All hedge fund investment...fossil fuels.
About 17 progressives even know this...

But we sceptics are the morons...

Bet your ass. You aren’t skeptics, you’re too ignorant on the topic. There is s difference. A ligit skeptic has to have some knowledge of the topic to be skeptical of it. Every thing on the topic deniers post is filled with made up shit.

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[Dagosa]

Why is China opening 2-3 coal plants every single month since 2017 and will continue to do so for 7 more years. India....1-2 coal plants/month.

Why don’t you ask China. Are you now holding them up as the primary authority of doing things correctly ?

Whooooops.

What were you saying about "moron"?

So you’re a Chinese fan ? You like how they operate ? Russia believes too in global warming, but they have a criminal admin out for power. Does that make them expert on doing the right thing ?

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[Toddsterpatriot]

For air travel and long haul. That will change

Seriously ? You one of these uninformed who thinks we can’t store electricity ? Seriously ?

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Wrong. The countries with the most expensive electricity have FEW natural resources. That’s why it’s mandatory to move to renewables. Photons are free, thermal differences are free, tides are free....
Pedro is expensive and limited.
Are you that uninformed to realize that nearly all wars are fought over fossil fuels ?

For air travel and long haul. That will change

They're gonna build magic batteries that can power a cross country flight? LOL!

Seriously ?

Seriously. Uninterrupted power is key. Wind and solar don't cut it.
Never will.

The countries with the most expensive electricity have FEW natural resources.

Germany has plenty of coal. Their electricity didn't get expensive until they went green.

That’s why it’s mandatory to move to renewables.

You and the rest of the idiots should definitely do that.

Are you that uninformed to realize that nearly all wars are fought over fossil fuels ?

Because they're vital to raise your standard of living and grow your economy.

 

[Dagosa]

For air travel and long haul. That will change

They're gonna build magic batteries that can power a cross country flight? LOL!

Kindof silly. You obviously haven’t done much research to fossil fuel alternatives where some are pretty obvious.

Seriously ?

Seriously. Uninterrupted power is key. Wind and solar don't cut it.
Never will

Another silly remark. How delusional can you get being this uninformed. Geese’s dufus, we’ve been storing and shuffling electricity for decades. Stop watching fix news and get some real life experience.

The countries with the most expensive electricity have FEW natural resources.

Germany has plenty of coal. Their electricity didn't get expensive until they went green.

That’s why it’s mandatory to move to renewables.

You and the rest of the idiots should definitely do that.

You’re the idiot, not us. You’re hilarious. Renewables are more reliable and far cheaper. You like paying for wars and being held hostage by dictators. Bozo the clowns do....the gop.

Are you that uninformed to realize that nearly all wars are fought over fossil fuels ?

Because they're vital to raise your standard of living and grow your economy.

No they aren’t. Energy is vital, not “ just” fossil fuels

 

[skookerasbil]

Tney’ll be around like whale oil was for lamps after they discovered petroleum deposited. Gessus, even oil companies are getting into renewables because it’s too expensive to generate electricity with them to make fossil fuels.

This is the indicator of ignorance. You think you’re smarter then every reaserch facility in the world, every country, every major religion and ever related corporation. You can tell us one major corporation of climate research facility in the world that aagrees with you...none, not one.

Bet your ass. You aren’t skeptics, you’re too ignorant on the topic. There is s difference. A ligit skeptic has to have some knowledge of the topic to be skeptical of it. Every thing on the topic deniers post is filled with made up shit.

LoL...nobody cares about the science. For 25 years, the science has failed to transcend outside the field and into to real world...yuk..yuk...it's a science club . The science isn't mattering....not impacting the energy landscape...d0y.
Solar/wind still a joke in the US.

Meanwhile, kinda funny as fuck....in the ENVIRONMENT forum, THIS is the thread that dominates. 400,000 Views...8,000 posts.....

More Proof the skeptics are WINNING!!

 

[skookerasbil]

Indeed...in life, the only thing that matters is who's not winning?!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Kindof silly. You obviously haven’t done much research to fossil fuel alternatives where some are pretty obvious.


Another silly remark. How delusional can you get being this uninformed. Geese’s dufus, we’ve been storing and shuffling electricity for decades. Stop watching fix news and get some real life experience.



You’re the idiot, not us. You’re hilarious. Renewables are more reliable and far cheaper. You like paying for wars and being held hostage by dictators. Bozo the clowns do....the gop.

No they aren’t. Energy is vital, not “ just” fossil fuels

Kindof silly. You obviously haven’t done much research to fossil fuel alternatives where some are pretty obvious.

Kind of silly? Do you know how many thousands of pounds of energy dense jet fuel it takes to go from coast to coast and you think they can do it with much heavier, less energy filled batteries?
You're worse than clueless.

Another silly remark. How delusional can you get being this uninformed. Geese’s dufus, we’ve been storing and shuffling electricity for decades.

Let me know when any city or town can store even 15 minutes of power for their users from your favorite wind or solar source. And then let me know how much it costs.

Renewables are more reliable and far cheaper.

How many hours a day does your typical wind or solar source provide electricity?
Would you count on that source if a family member was on a respirator?
And stop repeating the lie that they're cheaper. Germany is proof enough that they aren't.

You like paying for wars and being held hostage by dictators.

If the green twats stopped interfering in the US, we wouldn't be impacted by dictators.

 

[skookerasbil]

Kindof silly. You obviously haven’t done much research to fossil fuel alternatives where some are pretty obvious.

Kind of silly? Do you know how many thousands of pounds of energy dense jet fuel it takes to go from coast to coast and you think they can do it with much heavier, less energy filled batteries?
You're worse than clueless.

Another silly remark. How delusional can you get being this uninformed. Geese’s dufus, we’ve been storing and shuffling electricity for decades.

Let me know when any city or town can store even 15 minutes of power for their users from your favorite wind or solar source. And then let me know how much it costs.

Renewables are more reliable and far cheaper.

How many hours a day does your typical wind or solar source provide electricity?
Would you count on that source if a family member was on a respirator?
And stop repeating the lie that they're cheaper. Germany is proof enough that they aren't.

You like paying for wars and being held hostage by dictators.

If the green twats stopped interfering in the US, we wouldn't be impacted by dictators.

Todd.........these are not seriouos people we deal with in here. But boy oh boy is it a hoot to make them out to be lemmings.

 

[Dagosa]

Kindof silly. You obviously haven’t done much research to fossil fuel alternatives where some are pretty obvious.

Kind of silly? Do you know how many thousands of pounds of energy dense jet fuel it takes to go from coast to coast and you think they can do it with much heavier, less energy filled batteries?
You're worse than clueless.

Another silly remark. How delusional can you get being this uninformed. Geese’s dufus, we’ve been storing and shuffling electricity for decades.

Let me know when any city or town can store even 15 minutes of power for their users from your favorite wind or solar source. And then let me know how much it costs.

Renewables are more reliable and far cheaper.

How many hours a day does your typical wind or solar source provide electricity?
Would you count on that source if a family member was on a respirator?
And stop repeating the lie that they're cheaper. Germany is proof enough that they aren't.

You’re hilariously ignorant when all you rely upon is Fix anti science News. It’s been explained a dozen times and still you have to play the stupid game. Meanwhile Solar farms are going up everywhere and you’re left to your stupid insane little questions.

You like paying for wars and being held hostage by dictators.

If the green twats stopped interfering in the US, we wouldn't be impacted by dictators.

Dictators ? I get it. Everyone who’s smarter is a dictator. Makes sense.

 

[Dagosa]

Let me know when any city or town can store even 15 minutes of power for their users from your favorite wind or solar source. And then let me know how much it costs.

Electricity from Solar and wind works 24/7……
You ARE STUPID. Towns don’t store electricity, cities don’t normally store electricity. But towns don’t normally store coal and nuclear fuel either. I know our town never stored much fuel oil, natural gas… You are really dumb.
Never heard such utter babble. You must have dropped out of school in what, the third grade ?

 

[Dagosa]

Todd.........these are not seriouos people we deal with in here. But boy oh boy is it a hoot to make them out to be lemmings.

And you deniers of climate change are to be taken seriously ?
You MAGAs have the mentality of a mature Cucumber.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You’re hilariously ignorant when all you rely upon is Fix anti science News. It’s been explained a dozen times and still you have to play the stupid game. Meanwhile Solar farms are going up everywhere and you’re left to your stupid insane little questions.


Dictators ? I get it. Everyone who’s smarter is a dictator. Makes sense.

Who's smarter?

Tell me again why German electricity is so expensive with all those free photons?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Electricity from Solar and wind works 24/7……
You ARE STUPID. Towns don’t store electricity, cities don’t normally store electricity. But towns don’t normally store coal and nuclear fuel either. I know our town never stored much fuel oil, natural gas… You are really dumb.
Never heard such utter babble. You must have dropped out of school in what, the third grade ?

Electricity from Solar and wind works 24/7……

Prove it.....what's their actual output versus nameplate?

Towns don’t store electricity, cities don’t normally store electricity.

Neither do their utilities.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Todd.........these are not seriouos people we deal with in here. But boy oh boy is it a hoot to make them out to be lemmings.

I think he has a traumatic brain injury.

 

[Dagosa]

Electricity from Solar and wind works 24/7……

Prove it.....what's their actual output versus nameplate?

Prove what ? That you don’t know anything about electricity ? That’s obvious by your comments. You then try to ask an unrelated question in the same sentence ?

Towns don’t store electricity, cities don’t normally store electricity.


Neither do their utilities.

Your claim was that towns don’t store electricity. Pretty silly. Most towns buy their services. And you didn’t seem to know it. . Now you‘re changing to utilities. You’re a moving target of ignorance. Tell is, what do you know about electricity ? It’s hard to answer your questions when it’s obvious you haven’t done your homework.

 

[Dagosa]

what's their actual output versus nameplate?

Why does it matter ? You aren’t stupid enough to think that’s the only source a utility has to draw from do you ? Really, are you that dumb? I guess you are. Maybe you’ve never heard of transformers, inverters etc. I don’t think you know shit about electricity any more then you know shit about climate change.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Prove what ? That you don’t know anything about electricity ? That’s obvious by your comments. You then try to ask an unrelated question in the same sentence ?

Your claim was that towns don’t store electricity. Pretty silly. Most towns buy their services. And you didn’t seem to know it. . Now you‘re changing to utilities. You’re a moving target of ignorance. Tell is, what do you know about electricity ? It’s hard to answer your questions when it’s obvious you haven’t done your homework.

Prove what ?

Prove that you can get reliable, 24/7 power from wind and solar.

Your claim was that towns don’t store electricity.

You're talking about the widespread availability of electricty storage.
Because "we've been doing it for decades".
So show some. Show any place in the US that has enough storage to last even 15 minutes.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why does it matter ? You aren’t stupid enough to think that’s the only source a utility has to draw from do you ? Really, are you that dumb? I guess you are. Maybe you’ve never heard of transformers, inverters etc. I don’t think you know shit about electricity any more then you know shit about climate change.

Why does it matter ?

Are you retarded? We need 24 hours of power, every day. If your solar output is only good
for 6 hours a day, that fucking matters, moron.

You aren’t stupid enough to think that’s the only source a utility has to draw

You're the one stupid enough to think that wind, solar and "storage" can supply all our needs.

Maybe you’ve never heard of transformers, inverters etc.

If you want to explain how many minutes of electricity storage those can supply, go for it.

 

[Dagosa]

Why does it matter ?

Are you retarded? We need 24 hours of power, every day. If your solar output is only good
for 6 hours a day, that fucking matters, moron

Yup. We get electricity from renewables including solar 24/7. You’re still too stupid…..you’re embarrassing yourself.

You aren’t stupid enough to think that’s the only source a utility has to draw

You're the one stupid enough to think that wind, solar and "storage" can supply all our needs.

That’s cause I know what RENEWABLES are, and you don’t.

Maybe you’ve never heard of transformers, inverters etc.

If you want to explain how many minutes of electricity storage those can supply, go for it.

Sure, just Google “Renewable sources” and how “electricity from solar cells is managed.“
One question ? Do you think Electricity from solar cells is different from the electricity derived from wind, hydro or fossil fuels ? Answer.

 

[Dagosa]

Why does it matter ?

Are you retarded? We need 24 hours of power, every day. If your solar output is only good
for 6 hours a day, that fucking matters, moron.

You aren’t stupid enough to think that’s the only source a utility has to draw

You're the one stupid enough to think that wind, solar and "storage" can supply all our needs.

Maybe you’ve never heard of transformers, inverters etc.

If you want to explain how many minutes of electricity storage those can supply, go for it.

Geesus, you have no idea what electricity is do you ?