Solar Power Stayed On as Hurricane Ian Knocked Lights Out Across Florida

[Crick]

When it is December 22nd, the shortest day of the year and very cold, when the water goes outside to be warmed by said solar panel, how much heat is absorbed during the night? So when you wake up the next day your tank is nothing but freezing cold water? Or is there a electric/gas water heater inside your house just for those emergencies?

I wouldn't use a batch heater somewhere I thought it might freeze. No one (that I know of) makes commercial batch heaters. They're a DIY project. A full up solar water heater system has thermostatically controlled valves and recirc pumps. I guarantee you that even up north, they will reduce your water heater bill and not dowse you with cold water. For christ's sake, they've been making and selling them since the turn of the LAST century. You think they might have also thought about some of these issues or are you just the smartest human being there is?

 

[abu afak]

Solar power got cheap. So why aren’t we using it more?​

It turns out there’s a lot of inertia built into the energy system.
Oct 8, 2021

Solar power got cheap. So why aren’t we using it more?​

The cost of renewable energy, and solar in particular, has plummeted in the last decade. So why has there not been a green revolution?

www.popsci.com

""Solar, in particular, has cheapened at a blistering pace. Just 10 years ago, it was the most expensive option for building a new energy development. Since then, that cost has dropped by 90%, according to data from the Levelized Cost of Energy Report and as highlighted recently by Our World in Data. Utility-scale solar arrays are now the least costly option to build and operate."

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[abu afak]

An easy claim to make for a state that imports energy and produces a very tiny amount of energy.

Abuafuk's ideas are all proven false. We can simply look at how the government gives 60% of the cost to all solar and wind projects/corporations and how the corporations then give part of our money back as campaign donations.

Aba fuc can not show us anywhere in the USA where the price of electricity has gone down.

Traditional sources of electricity cost 30$ per mwh, green energy costs, $200 per mwh.


Anything different is only temporary government policy dictating the price.

 

[elektra]

abu afak is so dumb, he/she screwed up the formatting of he/she's replies so not one can be responded to

 

[abu afak]

abu afak is so dumb, he/she screwed up the formatting of he/she's replies so not one can be responded to

Never any meat in an Elektra post.
None in this thread either
He's just a name-caller and False/LOST-challenger with No meat/content of his own.
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[elektra]

Never any meat in an Elektra post.
None in this thread either
He's just a name-caller and False/LOST-challenger with No meat/content of his own.
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What is it you want to discuss. Make a point in your own words, I will respond. Anyone can link.

I am ready, me and you. Start with any point and we will stick to that point. We can use links, but we must comment and quote from the link.

 

[elektra]

Solar power got cheap. So why aren’t we using it more?​

It turns out there’s a lot of inertia built into the energy system.
Oct 8, 2021

Surge in U.S. Solar Company Bankruptcies, Despite Trillions in Subsidies​

https://www.popsci.com/story/environment/cheap-renewable-energy-vs-fossil-fuels/

Solar power got cheap. So why aren’t we using it more?
The cost of renewable energy, and solar in particular, has plummeted in the last decade. So why has there not been a green revolution?

www.popsci.com

""Solar, in particular, has cheapened at a blistering pace. Just 10 years ago, it was the most expensive option for building a new energy development. Since then, that cost has dropped by 90%, according to data from the Levelized Cost of Energy Report and as highlighted recently by Our World in Data. Utility-scale solar arrays are now the least costly option to build and operate."

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Surge in U.S. Solar Company Bankruptcies, Despite Trillions in Subsidies

Without a sustainable business model, a reshuffle in the US solar industry is on the horizon.

thechinaacademy.org

 

[elektra]

abu afak that was easy abu, my link TRUMPs your link. I am right you are wrong

It is much easier to play by your rules abu, just let Google be our brain and post links.

 

[abu afak]

Surge in U.S. Solar Company Bankruptcies, Despite Trillions in Subsidies​

Solar power got cheap. So why aren’t we using it more?

Surge in U.S. Solar Company Bankruptcies, Despite Trillions in Subsidies

Without a sustainable business model, a reshuffle in the US solar industry is on the horizon.

thechinaacademy.org

YOUR LINK:

"Many of us might assume that the reason so much energy still comes from gas and coal power plants is simple economics: those fuels are cheaper. But though it was once true, that assumption has actually been obliterated by a recent decline in solar and wind costs over the past decade.

When it comes to the cost of energy from new power plants, onshore wind and solar are now the cheapest sources—costing less than gas, geothermal, coal, or nuclear..."""

THANKS! YOU LOST.

You have now refuted your own challenge/Position! (and that of ALL your allies and their 100,000+ posts) and it's been chalked up to the corporate network/momentum and O&G good ol boys and subsidies.
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[ding]

YOUR LINK:

"Many of us might assume that the reason so much energy still comes from gas and coal power plants is simple economics: those fuels are cheaper. But though it was once true, that assumption has actually been obliterated by a recent decline in solar and wind costs over the past decade.

When it comes to the cost of energy from new power plants, onshore wind and solar are now the cheapest sources—costing less than gas, geothermal, coal, or nuclear..."""

THANKS! YOU LOST.

You have now refuted your own challenge/Position! (and that of ALL your allies and their 100,000+ posts) and it's been chalked up to the corporate network/momentum and O&G good ol boys and subsidies.
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Actually it's due to energy density, you dumb MF'er.

 

[elektra]

YOUR LINK:

"Many of us might assume that the reason so much energy still comes from gas and coal power plants is simple economics: those fuels are cheaper. But though it was once true, that assumption has actually been obliterated by a recent decline in solar and wind costs over the past decade.

When it comes to the cost of energy from new power plants, onshore wind and solar are now the cheapest sources—costing less than gas, geothermal, coal, or nuclear..."""

THANKS! YOU LOST.

You have now refuted your own challenge/Position! (and that of ALL your allies and their 100,000+ posts) and it's been chalked up to the corporate network/momentum and O&G good ol boys and subsidies.
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Hey dummy, you are very simple. I put your link before mine. My link is at the bottom, your link is at the top. You did not read your link hence when I posted it, you did not recognize it as your link.

Abu, you have not read read your link. You did not win.

Like I said, take any point you wish to make and I will reply.

 

[elektra]

Actually it's due to energy density, you dumb MF'er.

Dumb was abu dabba do quoting his link thinking it was mine

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We do need to stop burning fossil fuels. Completely.

Why?

 

[elektra]

We do need to stop burning fossil fuels. Completely

Which will end production of wind turbines and solar panels, ending the green energy scam.

Can't build them without fossil fuel

 

[dudmuck]

YOUR LINK:

"Many of us might assume that the reason so much energy still comes from gas and coal power plants is simple economics: those fuels are cheaper. But though it was once true, that assumption has actually been obliterated by a recent decline in solar and wind costs over the past decade.

When it comes to the cost of energy from new power plants, onshore wind and solar are now the cheapest sources—costing less than gas, geothermal, coal, or nuclear..."""

THANKS! YOU LOST.

You have now refuted your own challenge/Position! (and that of ALL your allies and their 100,000+ posts) and it's been chalked up to the corporate network/momentum and O&G good ol boys and subsidies.
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maybe it is, but the difference between gas & solar & wind is small

 

[Crick]

maybe it is, but the difference between gas & solar & wind is small

A moderately-sized 5GW plant spends 5,000 TIMES the differences noted here every hour. If I was a business, I wouldn't consider that small. Particularly after having spent a fraction of the installation costs of fossil plants and looking forward to that lower cost for the entire lifetime of the facility.

And then there's never having to pay for add-on stack filtration, rising costs of fuel and fuel shipping costs, potential statutory penalties, etc, etc. etc.

 

[abu afak]

AI Overview
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Solar panels are generally designed to withstand hurricanes in Florida, and many have survived hurricanes without damage:

• Babcock Ranch
  This solar-powered community in Florida withstood Hurricane Ian without losing power. The community's 870-acre solar array can power 30,000 homes, but only has about 5,000 residents. The excess power is fed back into the grid to help surrounding communities.
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  Florida Power & Light
  During Hurricane Ian, only 0.3% of Florida Power & Light's 35 million solar panels were damaged. The panels are mounted on metal frames that are five feet above the ground to withstand hurricane-force winds.
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AI Overview
Learn more…Opens in new tab

Solar panels are generally designed to withstand hurricanes in Florida, and many have survived hurricanes without damage:

• Babcock Ranch
  This solar-powered community in Florida withstood Hurricane Ian without losing power. The community's 870-acre solar array can power 30,000 homes, but only has about 5,000 residents. The excess power is fed back into the grid to help surrounding communities.
• 
  Florida Power & Light
  During Hurricane Ian, only 0.3% of Florida Power & Light's 35 million solar panels were damaged. The panels are mounted on metal frames that are five feet above the ground to withstand hurricane-force winds.
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How much electricity did they produce at night?

 

[abu afak]

How much electricity did they produce at night?

I am no longer going to report posts as This one as there are no consequences for immature OCD Grudge TROLLS like you save deleting your post which would rob me of bumping my thread back to the top.
So here ya go.
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[luiza]

I fixed the power problem by not living in Florida and moving from tornado alley.

That is still fondly remembered by the Florists .