Solar panels and sheep

That's because you refuse to believe that solar radiation converted into electricity is solar radiation that doesn't warm the surface of the planet.
Nope, I just know you are an idiot and have no first hand knowledge.
We found temperatures over a PV plant were regularly 3–4 °C warmer than wildlands at night, which is in direct contrast to other studies based on models that suggested that PV systems should decrease ambient temperatures.
 
That's because you refuse to believe that solar radiation converted into electricity is solar radiation that doesn't warm the surface of the planet. You think the decreased albedo of the solar panels offsets that but satellite measurements at six solar farms shows it doesn't.
Three sources, feel free to thank me. I educated you
Yes, solar panels are hot to the touch. Generally speaking, solar panels are 36 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the ambient external air temperature.

When solar panels get hot, the operating cell temperature is what increases and reduces the ability for panels to generate electricity. Because the panels are a dark color, they are hotter than the external temperature because dark colors, like black, absorb more heat.
 
That's because you refuse to believe that solar radiation converted into electricity is solar radiation that doesn't warm the surface of the planet. You think the decreased albedo of the solar panels offsets that but satellite measurements at six solar farms shows it doesn't.
4 sources, good luck arguing against physics.

How Hot do Solar Panels Get?

Solar panels have a typical operating temperature range, usually between 15°C to 35°C (59°F to 95°F). However, under intense sunlight and high ambient temperature, solar panels can reach temperatures as high as 65°C to 75°C (149°F to 167°F).
 
That's because you refuse to believe that solar radiation converted into electricity is solar radiation that doesn't warm the surface of the planet. You think the decreased albedo of the solar panels offsets that but satellite measurements at six solar farms shows it doesn't.

The temperature of a solar panel can vary depending on the type of panel and the amount of sunlight it’s exposed to. Generally speaking, solar panels are 36 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the ambient external air temperature. When solar panels get hot, the operating cell temperature is what increases and reduces the ability for panels to generate electricity.

So, if you’re looking to generate electricity with solar panels, you’ll want to make sure they’re not exposed to too much heat. Otherwise, you may not get the output you’re expecting.
 
Nope, I just know you are an idiot and have no first hand knowledge.
We found temperatures over a PV plant were regularly 3–4 °C warmer than wildlands at night, which is in direct contrast to other studies based on models that suggested that PV systems should decrease ambient temperatures.
Three sources, feel free to thank me. I educated you
Yes, solar panels are hot to the touch. Generally speaking, solar panels are 36 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the ambient external air temperature.

When solar panels get hot, the operating cell temperature is what increases and reduces the ability for panels to generate electricity. Because the panels are a dark color, they are hotter than the external temperature because dark colors, like black, absorb more heat.
4 sources, good luck arguing against physics.

How Hot do Solar Panels Get?

Solar panels have a typical operating temperature range, usually between 15°C to 35°C (59°F to 95°F). However, under intense sunlight and high ambient temperature, solar panels can reach temperatures as high as 65°C to 75°C (149°F to 167°F).

The temperature of a solar panel can vary depending on the type of panel and the amount of sunlight it’s exposed to. Generally speaking, solar panels are 36 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the ambient external air temperature. When solar panels get hot, the operating cell temperature is what increases and reduces the ability for panels to generate electricity.

So, if you’re looking to generate electricity with solar panels, you’ll want to make sure they’re not exposed to too much heat. Otherwise, you may not get the output you’re expecting.
I'll go with the satellite measurements and the law of conservation.


5. Conclusions and discussion
By analyzing MODIS retrieved surface reflectances over the six solar-farm sites as well as their neighboring control sites, we show that the changes due to solar panel installation can be detected in surface spectral reflectances at the MODIS Bands 1–7. The case study with the DSSF site shows a 20%–25% reduction of surface reflectances at the seven MODIS bands. Radiative transfer calculation suggests that such a reduction of surface reflectance can lead to a ∼23% decrease in surface upward shortwave flux and a ∼14%–18% decrease in TOA clear-sky reflected shortwave flux.
 
That's because you refuse to believe that solar radiation converted into electricity is solar radiation that doesn't warm the surface of the planet. You think the decreased albedo of the solar panels offsets that but satellite measurements at six solar farms shows it doesn't.

That's because you refuse to believe that solar radiation converted into electricity is solar radiation that doesn't warm the surface of the planet.

I heard the solar radiation is converted into electricity that warms the planet.
 
That's because you refuse to believe that solar radiation converted into electricity is solar radiation that doesn't warm the surface of the planet.

I heard the solar radiation is converted into electricity that warms the planet.
You'd have to subtract the work performed first. But more importantly, there is no incremental change in waste heat from using different sources. So there's no change in waste heat. There's only a change in solar radiation striking the surface of the planet and producing heat.
 
You'd have to subtract the work performed first. But more importantly, there is no incremental change in waste heat from using different sources. So there's no change in waste heat. There's only a change in solar radiation striking the surface of the planet and producing heat.

You'd have to subtract the work performed first.

The work performed doesn't end up mostly as heat?

But more importantly, there is no incremental change in waste heat from using different sources.

What does that mean?

There's only a change in solar radiation striking the surface of the planet and producing heat

I agree, less energy reflected from the panels than from the surface means the
panels warm the planet.
 
The work performed doesn't end up mostly as heat?
Only that which is due to friction. So, no, it does not.

But let's talk about the waste heat from performing work. Do you believe that friction heats the surface of the planet like visible light striking the planet?
 
What does that mean?
It means that solar is intended to displace fossil fuels for electrical generation. Which means no change in waste heat from electricity usage because solar is displacing fossil fuels. But there will be a change in visible light heating the surface of the planet.
 
Only that which is due to friction. So, no, it does not.

But let's talk about the waste heat from performing work. Do you believe that friction heats the surface of the planet like visible light striking the planet?

Only that which is due to friction. So, no, it does not.

Really?
How much of the electricity used in your home ends up as heat?
List your 5 or 10 biggest power users.
 
I agree, less energy reflected from the panels than from the surface means the
panels warm the planet.
Except for the photons that were converted into electricity. And satellites measure the net effect which at the six farms they looked at resulted in a localized cooling relative to no solar farms.
 
Only that which is due to friction. So, no, it does not.

Really?
How much of the electricity used in your home ends up as heat?
List your 5 or 10 biggest power users.
All you have to do is say that you believe all electricity that is used, heats the surface of planet just like sunlight striking the surface of the planet and I can be done with you.
 
It means that solar is intended to displace fossil fuels for electrical generation. Which means no change in waste heat from electricity usage because solar is displacing fossil fuels. But there will be a change in visible light heating the surface of the planet.

So, you're saying burning less coal will cool the planet?
 
Except for the photons that were converted into electricity. And satellites measure the net effect which at the six farms they looked at resulted in a localized cooling relative to no solar farms.

If the panels had the same albedo as the surface, you could say it has no net effect.
 

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