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The debate over whether we should have more, or less, socialism in US government is largely a debate over the purpose of government. Socialists "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". That might sound relatively innocuous. But it's a radical claim, one we should consider seriously before indulging a more socialistic government.

The libertarian roots of the United States contradict this belief. In the US, neither society, nor the economy, is run democratically. Each is run collaboratively, voluntarily, by the individuals who make up society. Government merely serves as a "referee". Socialists want government to be the "coach".
 

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Why did the referee give farmers 32 billion dollars last year?
Duh.
Because they're a bunch of super hardworking good people and you'd go hungry without their great work.

Let me do some digging, but I'd bet I could find a BUNCH worse ways the gubbment spent MORE money than that to causes that won't benefit Americans at all.

Besides, that does NOT make us a Socialist state. when the Referee takes over the farms, THEN we're Socialist.
 

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Why did the referee give farmers 32 billion dollars last year?


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He's pointing out that the "referee" has assumed the role of coach (or even general manager/owner), and is greatly exceeding its authority.

Real libertarians and ancaps don't need this nuance spelled out.
 

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The debate over whether we should have more, or less, socialism in US government is largely a debate over the purpose of government. Socialists "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". That might sound relatively innocuous. But it's a radical claim, one we should consider seriously before indulging a more socialistic government.

The libertarian roots of the United States contradict this belief. In the US, neither society, nor the economy, is run democratically. Each is run collaboratively, voluntarily, by the individuals who make up society. Government merely serves as a "referee". Socialists want government to be the "coach".

thats why the constitution is so important,,,

all we have to do is read it then apply it,,,
 
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The debate over whether we should have more, or less, socialism in US government is largely a debate over the purpose of government. Socialists "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". That might sound relatively innocuous. But it's a radical claim, one we should consider seriously before indulging a more socialistic government.

The libertarian roots of the United States contradict this belief. In the US, neither society, nor the economy, is run democratically. Each is run collaboratively, voluntarily, by the individuals who make up society. Government merely serves as a "referee". Socialists want government to be the "coach".

thats why the constitution is so important,,,

all we have to do is read it then apply it,,,
I wish it were that simple. Sadly, if there is not a strong public consensus backing it, the Constitution is - truly - just a piece of paper.
 

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The debate over whether we should have more, or less, socialism in US government is largely a debate over the purpose of government. Socialists "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". That might sound relatively innocuous. But it's a radical claim, one we should consider seriously before indulging a more socialistic government.

The libertarian roots of the United States contradict this belief. In the US, neither society, nor the economy, is run democratically. Each is run collaboratively, voluntarily, by the individuals who make up society. Government merely serves as a "referee". Socialists want government to be the "coach".

thats why the constitution is so important,,,

all we have to do is read it then apply it,,,
The Constitution has been a dead letter since at least Woodrow Wilson...Time to quit pretending that it has any magical powers to keep politicians and bureaucrats in their lanes.

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Why did the referee give farmers 32 billion dollars last year?
Duh.
Because they're a bunch of super hardworking good people and you'd go hungry without their great work.

Let me do some digging, but I'd bet I could find a BUNCH worse ways the gubbment spent MORE money than that to causes that won't benefit Americans at all.

Besides, that does NOT make us a Socialist state. when the Referee takes over the farms, THEN we're Socialist.
So you support socialism in govt. Thank you.
 

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The debate over whether we should have more, or less, socialism in US government is largely a debate over the purpose of government. Socialists "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". That might sound relatively innocuous. But it's a radical claim, one we should consider seriously before indulging a more socialistic government.

The libertarian roots of the United States contradict this belief. In the US, neither society, nor the economy, is run democratically. Each is run collaboratively, voluntarily, by the individuals who make up society. Government merely serves as a "referee". Socialists want government to be the "coach".

thats why the constitution is so important,,,

all we have to do is read it then apply it,,,
I wish it were that simple. Sadly, if there is not a strong public consensus backing it, the Constitution is - truly - just a piece of paper.

the biggest obstacle is the dem and repube party and those that vote for them and then complain that things are going to shit,,,
 

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Folks, please keep in mind the DEFINITION of Socialism......

Socialism is where.....
Government OWNS or SOLELY CONTROLS the means of production.

It has ZERO to do with government expenditures or social programs. (for God's sake)
 
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The debate over whether we should have more, or less, socialism in US government is largely a debate over the purpose of government. Socialists "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". That might sound relatively innocuous. But it's a radical claim, one we should consider seriously before indulging a more socialistic government.

The libertarian roots of the United States contradict this belief. In the US, neither society, nor the economy, is run democratically. Each is run collaboratively, voluntarily, by the individuals who make up society. Government merely serves as a "referee". Socialists want government to be the "coach".

thats why the constitution is so important,,,

all we have to do is read it then apply it,,,
The Constitution has been a dead letter since at least Woodrow Wilson...Time to quit pretending that it has any magical powers to keep politicians and bureaucrats in their lanes.

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you do what you want,,,I will stand and fight for it till I cant,,,

not sure about yours but my children deserve better
 

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So you support socialism in govt. Thank you.
I guess I could support that more than Ignorant posts and really dumb voters.
Depravity of the human mind, is the only playground for socialist ideals.

Post #12 has YOU in mind, btw. Please go read it.
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Democracy can be a very oppressive form of government when the majority finds out they can use the power of government to steal from the minority.

It is morally wrong to give the majority the governmental power to steal what I have earned.
 

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Why did the referee give farmers 32 billion dollars last year?


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Are you really still confused by this?
Government is supposed to invest the people’s money back into the shit that matters, the shit the people agree with investing in....NOBODY contributing agrees with paying ShaQuita and Guadalupe to increase the size of their litters but everybody contributing agrees with investing in our food sources...Sucks huh?
 

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Why did the referee give farmers 32 billion dollars last year?


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He's pointing out that the "referee" has assumed the role of coach (or even general manager/owner), and is greatly exceeding its authority.

Real libertarians and ancaps don't need this nuance spelled out.
My cute little anarchist that worships the head of the government...this is an opinion forum, when you ask someone a question such as mine you are asking for their opinion.

Now that you have been schooled you may get back to kissing Trump’s ass


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you do what you want,,,I will stand and fight for it till I cant,,,

not sure about yours but my children deserve better
The fight (at least the political one) is over, the statists won....I suggest stocking up on non-perishable foodstuffs and ammunition.


‘America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.’
 

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Why did the referee give farmers 32 billion dollars last year?


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Are you really still confused by this?
Government is supposed to invest the people’s money back into the shit that matters, the shit the people agree with investing in....NOBODY contributing agrees with paying ShaQuita and Guadalupe to increase the size of their litters but everybody contributing agrees with investing in our food sources...Sucks huh?
that is absolutely false,,,

unless you can show where in the constitution that power resides,,,
 

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