Social Democracy

[Independent thinker]

EU don't seem to have a problem...

EU got better election systems and have more constrained constitutions... US complain about the Government overreach while having a Constitution which is tiny, dead (i.e. not update regularly) and is interpreted to the eyeballs by a bunch of unelected political appointments.
The US voting system is antique at this stage... One man one voting is ridiculous in this day and age... It creates two parties who can be hijacked by nature and fear of the other side..

So this 'Big Government' can be used as a fear tactic to scare people... Independent thinker you are fearmongering that Government will take over, instead of saying, we need Government working for the citizens...

So if you see the Government actually helping you want to reject it, in fear that they could control you. You have been conditioned to live your life in fear of people you could help you...

Contrast that to Europe, Governments work for the people and they are very clear about that... The police are government workers for you, politicians are rewarded for working for the people and because the voting system, don't work for the people and you're out... There is no such thing as a safe seat for your party in most cases...
Politicians in Europe have to face the opposition once a week to answer questions... PM's can be voted out in the morning by their own party and they will do it.

Of course EU doesn't have a problem because they spend no money on defense, relying on the US to add all of that onto our national debt. A lot of our 39 trillion dollar debt is what is paying for the EU's social programs.

 

[CowboyTed]

Your ignorance of our founding is expected, and laughed at.

I must ask you to prove me wrong...

You seem to give a lot of insults and racist slurs but very light on actual discussion or evidence...

Is this because you find people who want to discuss things and understand each other as a threat? Why do you fear this educated manner?

 

[j-mac]

You used the term 'Chicoms'...

You don't even get it? You do really expose your lack of knowledge on how to behave...

This isn't a good thing... It is pretty sad really...

Europe is dying Ted.

 

[CowboyTed]

Oh give me a break, and STFU already! You speak of nailing Jell-O to the wall, yet you won't even engage in conversation with anyone to the right of outright communism....It would be nice if you just found somewhere else to drop your idiocy on.....

Sorry but that comment is jokable...

It clearly shows you don't understand 'Communism'... Do you understand Communism because your comments show a complete lack of understanding of it.

 

[CowboyTed]

Europe is dying Ted.

How is that relevant to Nostra using racial slurs

 

[Oddball]

This is why we say it should be considered and not dismissed.

How many people here roar Marxism and Communism as a fear mongering technique...

Please using statistics explain where EU is getting much wronger... The pay scales thing is lower in Europe but a person on an average median wage in Europe has higher disposable income if Health Insurance is taken into account.

No, it shouldn't be considered at all.

You listed all the goodies that you get -all at the expense of others- and leave out the moribund economies, near zero social mobility, and the crushing social conformity (for starters), among other vicissitudes or Euroweenie neo-socialism.

If that's what you want, back your bags and GTFO.

 

[Nostra]

You used the term 'Chicoms'...

You don't even get it? You do really expose your lack of knowledge on how to behave...

This isn't a good thing... It is pretty sad really...

Chinese isn’t a race, you blithering moron.

Next?

 

[Nostra]

How is that relevant to Nostra using racial slurs

Where? Quote me, Simp?

 

[Nostra]

I must ask you to prove me wrong...

You seem to give a lot of insults and racist slurs but very light on actual discussion or evidence...

Is this because you find people who want to discuss things and understand each other as a threat? Why do you fear this educated manner?

Quote the Constitution saying “Social democracy”, Chicom lover.

Also, show my racial slurs.

 

[Nostra]

I must ask you to prove me wrong...

Already done. I pointed out we are a Representative Republic.

Your “social democracy” is a made up term by you and your fellow socialist morons.

 

[CowboyTed]

So, the UK was so dependent on Europe than it can no longer support itself.

Seems like Marxist policies suck.

Na... It is called free trade and unrestricted trade...

I don't know what you are talking about Marxism, the ignorance ye show is hilarious...

Very few of ye have actually agreed the actual point. Hafar1014 make points which I think I refuted well

But the rest of ye are just a garage of insults, racist slurs, fear and misinformation...

Seriously, you should have a look at yourselves... You are so fearful of any argument you just hurl insults and misinformation. It's pretty sad.

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[westwall]

Na... It is called free trade and unrestricted trade...

I don't know what you are talking about Marxism, the ignorance ye show is hilarious...

Very few of ye have actually agreed the actual point. Hafar1014 make points which I think I refuted well

But the rest of ye are just a garage of insults, racist slurs, fear and misinformation...

Seriously, you should have a look at yourselves... You are so fearful of any argument you just hurl insults and misinformation. It's pretty sad.

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There's no free trade in Marxist countries

 

[CowboyTed]

Quote the Constitution saying “Social democracy”, Chicom lover.

Also, show my racial slurs.

The Constitution doesn't have to give permission to use Social Democracy, but it doesn't prohibitive it either...

As an alternative, Where does the US Constitution say Capitalism?

 

[Nostra]

The Constitution doesn't have to give permission to use Social Democracy, but it doesn't prohibitive it either...

As an alternative, Where does the US Constitution say Capitalism?

So you have nothing, Chicom dupe.

Run along.

 

[Mac1958]

I don't know what you are talking about Marxism, the ignorance ye show is hilarious...

They don't know the difference between social democracy and Marxism.

Wanna laugh? Ask one of them, in real life, to define Marxism. Watch their face.

 

[CowboyTed]

There's no free trade in Marxist countries

Where are you finding you Marxist countries?

You are sound very silly and uneducated, we are talking about Western Europe...

Who told you Western Europe is Marxist?

Please can you show us where you found this out, where is your information source?

 

[westwall]

Where are you finding you Marxist countries?

You are sound very silly and uneducated, we are talking about Western Europe...

Who told you Western Europe is Marxist?

Please can you show us where you found this out, where is your information source?

Social democrat is just another name for Marxism.

 

[sartre play]

Not interested in debating what other country's are doing or not doing.
Focus on what our country is doing or not doing in the better interest of the 70% of the population who do not have the power or the money to pay for influence. TODAY is about those who served & died for America.

 

[CowboyTed]

They don't know the difference between social democracy and Marxism.

Wanna laugh? Ask one of them, in real life, to define Marxism. Watch their face.

The real bit I love is there is, only political ideology in US believes that US is being run by a political elite ("Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie") and they need to be removed by any means necessary by the people ("proletariat")...

This is straight out of Marxist teaching...
These guys have been going around rabbiting Marxism for years, the whole Jan 6th attack was built around removing the Elite Ruling Class...
What they don't take from Karl Marx is education... Marx believed the people must be educated... "Ignorance never yet helped anybody" and “Keep people from their history, and they are easily controlled.” ...
They didn't get that teaching from Marx..

 

[Nostra]

Where? Quote me, Simp?

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