So Who's Ultimately Responsible for Trumpcare Failing?

[Hossfly]

The Republican Congress, or the Trumpster himself?

Why?

1. There is no Republican Congress but there is a Congress.

2. Why? Because they can't come up with a plan that'll cover the Free Shit Generations and illegal aliens without bankrupting the taxpayers.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump knew if he was going to pass healthcare, he would have to do it without the cooperation of the Democrats. For him to blame Democrats for his own failure shows how out of touch he is

 

[TNHarley]

This was the plan all along. Trump is nailing it. Obamacare is going to go down in flames, all on its own.

Perfection.

Perfection? He has done nothing but fail with healthcare. From the standards he set..

 

[Mr.Blonde]

The Republicans are just like the Democrats were responsible for giving us the disaster that is Obamacare. If anything should be learned from these two endeavors it's that there are some things government should stay out of.

It seems to work ok elsewhere, and in the US gummit been in the thing since we had tax cuts for employers back in the 1950s

It might work ok in some places in others it doesn't this is not a one size fits all world.

We're not going to get gummit out of healthcare and trying to do so would make it worse. Very few have the means to pay for individual care when they get very sick, and all of will become very sick at some point. However, we need to find a way to make actual costs of care bear some relationship to how much we pay for them.

And you think the government is the one to make healthcare more affordable? Making things less expensive is not something they really excel at.

The government is trying to get everyone covered. The best way is to deregulation of the insurance market and to promote Minute Clinics.

If you allow people to create plans a la carte. Also make it easier for groups of people to create insurance groups.

We can make Medicaid for those who have pre-existing conditions and for those who have illnesses that would bankrupt even a wealthy person.

 

[koshergrl]

This was the plan all along. Trump is nailing it. Obamacare is going to go down in flames, all on its own.

Perfection.

Perfection? He has done nothing but fail with healthcare. From the standards he set..

Nonsense. He said from the get go that we were getting rid of obamacare. The whole proposal to REPLACE it was a political move meant to placate traitorous Republican lawmakers, but was never what the people wanted. Trump is brilliant because he appears to be placating people on this bullshit and then just allows them to crash and burn the ship all on their own. He didn't screw up. Our Republican elected officials did, when they panicked and refused to repeal Obamacare like they have been ELECTED TO DO, repeatedly. So he let them run with their nonsense, and it failed.

It's going down. And when it does, maybe we'll replace it. I never wanted it replaced, so I don't care if it gets replaced or not.

But first it's going down. And the best and most fiscally responsible way for that to happen, since our Republican politicians are ******* traitors, is just to let it die.

 

[TNHarley]

This was the plan all along. Trump is nailing it. Obamacare is going to go down in flames, all on its own.

Perfection.

Perfection? He has done nothing but fail with healthcare. From the standards he set..

Nonsense. He said from the get go that we were getting rid of obamacare.

It's going down. And when it does, maybe we'll replace it. I never wanted it replaced, so I don't care if it gets replaced or not.

But first it's going down. And the best and most fiscally responsible way for that to happen, since our Republican politicians are ******* traitors, is just to let it die.

which goes against what he said. That was my point lol

 

[koshergrl]

This was the plan all along. Trump is nailing it. Obamacare is going to go down in flames, all on its own.

Perfection.

Perfection? He has done nothing but fail with healthcare. From the standards he set..

Nonsense. He said from the get go that we were getting rid of obamacare.

It's going down. And when it does, maybe we'll replace it. I never wanted it replaced, so I don't care if it gets replaced or not.

But first it's going down. And the best and most fiscally responsible way for that to happen, since our Republican politicians are ******* traitors, is just to let it die.

which goes against what he said. That was my point lol

The method may be different, but the result will be the same.
You get hung up on semantics.

"Trump has said during both his campaign and his presidency that the national medical insurance scheme left in place by the Obama-era Affordable Care Act will eventually topple on its own as costs spiral and insurers pull out of marketplaces.

"On Tuesday he returned to that line, suggesting that the most workable approach will be either to repeal the law or allow the status quo to crumble – with either result forcing Congress to work on something new.

'As I have always said, let ObamaCare fail and then come together and do a great healthcare plan. Stay tuned!' Trump tweeted."

It's not his fault if Republicans don't have his back. He's doing exactly what he needs to do to eliminate it, and fulfill his promise.

And his original promise was to eliminate it, THEN replace it.


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[Reasonable]

Trump and the vast majority of republicans are totally fine with taking healthcare from 22 million Americans to give HUGE tax breaks to the people who don't need them.
Those are the indisputable facts, Jack.

They are traitors to the American people.
Another fact.

The only republicans that did the right thing not supporting this abortion of a bill are what Trumpies call RINOS.

The Republican Party and President are the worst in our nation's history.

 

[rightwinger]

This was the plan all along. Trump is nailing it. Obamacare is going to go down in flames, all on its own.

Perfection.

Perfection? He has done nothing but fail with healthcare. From the standards he set..

Nonsense. He said from the get go that we were getting rid of obamacare. The whole proposal to REPLACE it was a political move meant to placate traitorous Republican lawmakers, but was never what the people wanted. Trump is brilliant because he appears to be placating people on this bullshit and then just allows them to crash and burn the ship all on their own. He didn't screw up. Our Republican elected officials did, when they panicked and refused to repeal Obamacare like they have been ELECTED TO DO, repeatedly. So he let them run with their nonsense, and it failed.

It's going down. And when it does, maybe we'll replace it. I never wanted it replaced, so I don't care if it gets replaced or not.

But first it's going down. And the best and most fiscally responsible way for that to happen, since our Republican politicians are ******* traitors, is just to let it die.

Trump not only said repeal
He said he had a plan, a beautiful plan, that was better, cheaper and covered more people than Obamacare

What happened to it?

 

[debbiedowner]

The Republican Congress, or the Trumpster himself?

Why?

I see two people have never worked for a corporation before, it is always the man at the top that is responsible for failure. He is responsible for direction and his amounted to tweeting.

 

[rightwinger]

6 promises Trump has made about health care

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”

As his run for president took shape, candidate Trump boasted via Twitter, “I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid”

 

[my2¢]

I voted Trump because I look at the President as also the leader of his party. He's in primary position to wheel-and-deal. Just as I would give him credit if repeal passes, the buck stops with him.

 

[Theowl32]

Not sure how you all can't see this power play by the democrats. Are you doubting me yet about this being a single payer trojan horse from the beginning? I know most of you that think like me know this.

What many of you don't know or didn't believe is when I said the moment it was passed (john Roberts gets the blame) was the day the country will be fast tracked to socialism.

There was nothing the republicans could do. A flat repeal would not have worked. Just wouldn't have. Again, it is not the bums that sap the system. They are middle class republican voters with preexisting conditions that were kicked off their private insurance that were forced onto obamacare that were the problem.

Now, the press will predictably blame the republicans for the failure of obamacare which was created to fail in the first place.

No different from how they blame the republicans for the housing bubble of 2008, even though it was in fact democrat socialist policies that caused it.

Not hard to follow. All of this, is John Roberts fault.

 

[Stratford57]

It looks like a tendency now: to do their best to block Trump's efforts to improve this country and to make Americans' lives more comfortable and less expensive and then to blame Trump for that. How nice. Hopefully, the majority of Americans are seeing what's going on. It actually is helping Trump's approval. Looks like both parties need to be dismissed because they have been useless and now are becoming even harmful for the country.

 

[bendog]

Yeah that leftist mouthpiece of Murdoch, the Wall St Journal. LOL

 

[BlindBoo]

Well I heard President Grumps plans were going to be better than Obama's, cover more people and cost less! Where's that plan?

He conned a lot of people with that one.

 

[AntonToo]

 

[Theowl32]

Well I heard President Grumps plans were going to be better than Obama's, cover more people and cost less! Where's that plan?

He conned a lot of people with that one.

You see how the pathetic sheep are? They will blame the deliberate failure of obamacare, and ignore all of those deliberate false promises and blame Trump.

This is the result.

Of course that is the excrement on the bottom of your shoe. They are not even worth debating. They don't pay their own bills. They have no idea what taxes even are, let alone pay them. Utter wastes of time. Spoiled petulant trust fund babies.

Just to reiterate. The day the single payer trojan horse was passed, was the day we were on the road to socialism.

Nothing Trump could do. He may have thought he could pass obamacare light, but not really.

Remember, no matter what Trump would do, an ass clown like this Blindboo loser would attack him with prepared statements by Pravda.

John Roberts fault everyone. Don't be the sheep that the media will manipulate into thinking this was Trump's doing.

 

[Papageorgio]

The Republican Congress, or the Trumpster himself?

Why?

Don't know what a "Trumpster" is, but name calling is a lefty strong point.

Both Congress and Trump failed or succeeded depending on your point of view. It seems that the left is calling it a failure, yet they didn't want the Republicans to change it, I would think that is a success for the left but now you are calling it a failure.

So to you is it a success or a failure?

 

[BlindBoo]

Well I heard President Grumps plans were going to be better than Obama's, cover more people and cost less! Where's that plan?

He conned a lot of people with that one.

You see how the pathetic sheep are? They will blame the deliberate failure of obamacare, and ignore all of those deliberate false promises and blame Trump.

This is the result.

Of course that is the excrement on the bottom of your shoe. They are not even worth debating. They don't pay their own bills. They have no idea what taxes even are, let alone pay them. Utter wastes of time. Spoiled petulant trust fund babies.

Just to reiterate. The day the single payer trojan horse was passed, was the day we were on the road to socialism.

Nothing Trump could do. He may have thought he could pass obamacare light, but not really.

Remember, no matter what Trump would do, an ass clown like this Blindboo loser would attack him with prepared statements by Pravda.

John Roberts fault everyone. Don't be the sheep that the media will manipulate into thinking this was Trump's doing.

Wow it's like you pseudo-conned think with one hivemind.

Nobody forced the Great Grabby one to claim his plan would cover more people for less money. Nor was he force to say that his plan was nearly complete either. He had no plan. The GOP Plan is to kick most of the poor people off insurance.
They figure it's mostly Democrat voters they'll be killing off, so no worries.