- Jun 25, 2010
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- On the way to the Dark Tower.
But it's okay for you to tell us what we must think?Funny you should mention that. I come from generations of High Country Ranchers. And our views haven't changed on bit. We were Conservationists long before it was in fashion. Those mountains were our livelihood. And we have traditionally been Conservative Republicans until the last 4 years or so. And one thing we won't tolerate is you flatlanders telling what we must think. Get the hell out of my back yard.Nobody cares what you will, or won't "tolerate". It's BS and just like Covid you're just swallowing it all.We have just went through 4 of the worst forest fires in Colorado History. We DO have higher temps. We also have drier conditions. Our rivers are insanely low. The Snow Caps are melting faster than they should which will affect the water for years to come. And we have millions of acres of forest burnt off which will also affect whether the snow will stick and not prematurely find it's way to lower areas and melt off early. Our Snow fall is below normal. Our temps are anywhere from 4 to 8 degrees higher than normal and have been going up for the last few years. AT first, it was 1 or 2 degrees, not anything to worry about, said some. But now it's 4 to 8 and now it's time to worry. WE almost have all fires either out of under control. Our air has been toxic for months now but it's better. But it's still hazy. And do you want to know where the haze is coming from? You guessed it, Your stinking out of control Fires in California.I am a lifelong Californian. We have normal temperatures and rainfall. The last two summers have been a bit cool except for ten days or so. We knew. That is ordinary Californians knew from the beginning that the policies of insane environmentalists were going to cause massive wildfires. We always knew that laws prohibiting the removal of dead brush from around homes was dangerous. The bark beetle is NOT endangered. It kills trees.The fires here were caused by natural causes like lighting strikes. One was cause by a car pulling off into the side of the road with a hot exhaust. If we had normal rainfall and temperatures these either would not have set off the blazes or they would not have gone into the raging fires.The fires aren't caused by an increase in temperature but by an increase in arsonists taking advantage of nut job enviros.All I have to do is watch the 5pm News Weather Report. Guess what, it's warmer by at least 5 degrees, our water table is low, the percipitation below normal and the damned mountains are burning to the ground. We have just had 4 Record Forest Fires this year. And NOW they are saying we are entering into the forest fire season.Excerpts from the link
... For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.
....... What I found was a nation on the cusp of a great transformation. Across the United States, some 162 million people — nearly one in two — will most likely experience a decline in the quality of their environment, namely more heat and less water. For 93 million of them, the changes could be particularly severe, and by 2070, our analysis suggests, if carbon emissions rise at extreme levels, at least four million Americans could find themselves living at the fringe, in places decidedly outside the ideal niche for human life. The cost of resisting the new climate reality is mounting. Florida officials have already acknowledged that defending some roadways against the sea will be unaffordable. And the nation’s federal flood-insurance program is for the first time requiring that some of its payouts be used to retreat from climate threats across the country. It will soon prove too expensive to maintain the status quo.
.... Then what? One influential 2018 study, published in The Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists, suggests that one in 12 Americans in the Southern half of the country will move toward California, the Mountain West or the Northwest over the next 45 years because of climate influences alone.....
There are signs that the message is breaking through. Half of Americans now rank climate as a top political priority, up from roughly one-third in 2016, and three out of four now describe climate change as either “a crisis” or “a major problem.”
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The author concludes these states will be the beneficiaries of a hotter climate:
The millions of people moving north will mostly head to the cities of the Northeast and Northwest, which will see their populations grow by roughly 10 percent, according to one model. Once-chilly places like Minnesota and Michigan and Vermont will become more temperate, verdant and inviting. Vast regions will prosper; just as Hsiang’s research forecast that Southern counties could see a tenth of their economy dry up, he projects that others as far as North Dakota and Minnesota will enjoy a corresponding expansion. Cities like Detroit, Rochester, Buffalo and Milwaukee will see a renaissance, with their excess capacity in infrastructure, water supplies and highways once again put to good use. One day, it’s possible that a high-speed rail line could race across the Dakotas, through Idaho’s up-and-coming wine country and the country’s new breadbasket along the Canadian border, to the megalopolis of Seattle, which by then has nearly merged with Vancouver to its north.
Millions will be displaced in the coming decades by fires, hurricanes, extreme heat and rising seas. Where will they go?www.nytimes.com
It's coming. You know it is.
Nothing else is working for Biden so out comes the old Climate Change bull shit.. And the paper cited has no proof of anything they are spouting.... BRAVO!! more baseless propaganda...
As for temperatures affecting, you have never seen a fire at night. A normal Fire will actually go into a form off hibernation at night due to the lower temperatures. These Super Fires do die down a bit but not enough to make a difference because the night time temps are also unseasonably high as well.
As for humans starting them, that does happen and it's not usually done by a pyro. If it's done by a human, it's usually done by a sloppy camper or some idiot tossing a lit cigarette out the window. Or some idiot with fireworks.
Now, exactly who gave you your information or is it the first stupid thought that popped into your mind and you just had to type it out?
Two dozen people have been caught so far setting these massive fires. Send them to Gitmo to await execution.
We don't have your Arsons yet we still went through the worst forest fire period in Colorado History and now we are going into the Forest Fire Season. You might say that we would be safe because there is nothing left to burn but guess again. The Millions of Acres that burned left a few hundred millions of acres that can still burn. And WE practice good forest management.
You see, we have a lot more to lose. Forget about stupid people building in fire plains. When we lose, we affect at least a 5 state area for water. Yes, even California. So we make no bones about our conditions and do not tolerate either the doomsayers nor the Fake Science Fruitcakes. To coin a phrase from the #1 Fake Science Denier, "It is what it is". All you have to do is watch any local Weather News 5pm report and they tell you what the normal temp should be and what it really is. And we just went through a few months of way higher than normal temps with way lower percipitation than normal. Most of the fires were naturally caused, one was caused by a car's hot exhaust and another was caused by a careless smoker throwing his lit cigarette out his window in a high tinder area. In the past, we have had some started by careless campers ass well. And yes, we did have one that was done by arson a few years ago. But according to you, the major cause is Arson. And you would be wrong. IF I use your logic, the major cause of insanity would be "The Party of the Rump".
How's that working out for you?