So Where will you go? The coming mass migrations due to Anthropogenic Climate Change

[Indeependent]

Just WOW...

The last 20 years has been flat in temperature rise... ZERO RISE... At this pace we will fry in about.......


What I find amusing is they are prediciting a 5 deg C rise over the next 5 years.. No way in hell that happens in our buffered based climactic system without the sun increaseing by about 50 W/m^2...

In the last 40 years, we have had at least a 4 degree temp increase and a severe droop in rainfall. The repercussions of that to other states that depend on our water is severe. Don't let a little fact get in the way of your delusion.

You are incorrect.
I am related to an ex-Liberal Environmental Engineer who spent 6 months studying the subject and found that within the next 100 years, at the soonest, the temperatures in NYS will rise close to 5 degrees.
He is no longer a Liberal.

 

[Indeependent]

"So where will you go?"

Well, if you're a wealthy, powerful liberal, you'll buy a beach house.

Ouch!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Just WOW...

The last 20 years has been flat in temperature rise... ZERO RISE... At this pace we will fry in about.......


What I find amusing is they are prediciting a 5 deg C rise over the next 5 years.. No way in hell that happens in our buffered based climactic system without the sun increaseing by about 50 W/m^2...

In the last 40 years, we have had at least a 4 degree temp increase and a severe droop in rainfall. The repercussions of that to other states that depend on our water is severe. Don't let a little fact get in the way of your delusion.

Then maybe Commiefornia should quit dumping billions of gallons of fresh water into the ocean to keep the fish from getting thirsty...

Commiefornia would refill many of its aquifers if they watered their fields and grew crops... But stupid is as stupid does and they blow it out to sea for a damn slug.. They could have plenty of water for most everyone if they used commonsense.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Excerpts from the link:


“... For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.

....... What I found was a nation on the cusp of a great transformation. Across the United States, some 162 million people — nearly one in two — will most likely experience a decline in the quality of their environment, namely more heat and less water. For 93 million of them, the changes could be particularly severe, and by 2070, our analysis suggests, if carbon emissions rise at extreme levels, at least four million Americans could find themselves living at the fringe, in places decidedly outside the ideal niche for human life. The cost of resisting the new climate reality is mounting. Florida officials have already acknowledged that defending some roadways against the sea will be unaffordable. And the nation’s federal flood-insurance program is for the first time requiring that some of its payouts be used to retreat from climate threats across the country. It will soon prove too expensive to maintain the status quo.

.... Then what? One influential 2018 study, published in The Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists, suggests that one in 12 Americans in the Southern half of the country will move toward California, the Mountain West or the Northwest over the next 45 years because of climate influences alone.....

There are signs that the message is breaking through. Half of Americans now rank climate as a top political priority, up from roughly one-third in 2016, and three out of four now describe climate change as either “a crisis” or “a major problem......”


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The author concludes these states will be the beneficiaries of a hotter climate:

“The millions of people moving north will mostly head to the cities of the Northeast and Northwest, which will see their populations grow by roughly 10 percent, according to one model. Once-chilly places like Minnesota and Michigan and Vermont will become more temperate, verdant and inviting. Vast regions will prosper; just as Hsiang’s research forecast that Southern counties could see a tenth of their economy dry up, he projects that others as far as North Dakota and Minnesota will enjoy a corresponding expansion. Cities like Detroit, Rochester, Buffalo and Milwaukee will see a renaissance, with their excess capacity in infrastructure, water supplies and highways once again put to good use. One day, it’s possible that a high-speed rail line could race across the Dakotas, through Idaho’s up-and-coming wine country and the country’s new breadbasket along the Canadian border, to the megalopolis of Seattle, which by then has nearly merged with Vancouver to its north”.

How Climate Migration Will Reshape America (Published 2020)

Millions will be displaced in the coming decades by fires, hurricanes, extreme heat and rising seas. Where will they go?

www.nytimes.com

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It's coming. You know it is.

If one panics, one is unable to think rationally. This is why democrats need panic. If people have the time to think rationally they wont follow stupid democrat policies...

 

[daveman]

Just WOW...

The last 20 years has been flat in temperature rise... ZERO RISE... At this pace we will fry in about.......


What I find amusing is they are prediciting a 5 deg C rise over the next 5 years.. No way in hell that happens in our buffered based climactic system without the sun increaseing by about 50 W/m^2...

In the last 40 years, we have had at least a 4 degree temp increase and a severe droop in rainfall. The repercussions of that to other states that depend on our water is severe. Don't let a little fact get in the way of your delusion.

Then maybe Commiefornia should quit dumping billions of gallons of fresh water into the ocean to keep the fish from getting thirsty...

Commiefornia would refill many of its aquifers if they watered their fields and grew crops... But stupid is as stupid does and they blow it out to sea for a damn slug.. They could have plenty of water for most everyone if they used commonsense.

Common sense has been criminalized in Communist California.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I’m moving to Obama’s neighborhood because that’s the only oceanfront property immune to AGW.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Excerpts from the link


... For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.

....... What I found was a nation on the cusp of a great transformation. Across the United States, some 162 million people — nearly one in two — will most likely experience a decline in the quality of their environment, namely more heat and less water. For 93 million of them, the changes could be particularly severe, and by 2070, our analysis suggests, if carbon emissions rise at extreme levels, at least four million Americans could find themselves living at the fringe, in places decidedly outside the ideal niche for human life. The cost of resisting the new climate reality is mounting. Florida officials have already acknowledged that defending some roadways against the sea will be unaffordable. And the nation’s federal flood-insurance program is for the first time requiring that some of its payouts be used to retreat from climate threats across the country. It will soon prove too expensive to maintain the status quo.

.... Then what? One influential 2018 study, published in The Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists, suggests that one in 12 Americans in the Southern half of the country will move toward California, the Mountain West or the Northwest over the next 45 years because of climate influences alone.....

There are signs that the message is breaking through. Half of Americans now rank climate as a top political priority, up from roughly one-third in 2016, and three out of four now describe climate change as either “a crisis” or “a major problem.”


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The author concludes these states will be the beneficiaries of a hotter climate:

The millions of people moving north will mostly head to the cities of the Northeast and Northwest, which will see their populations grow by roughly 10 percent, according to one model. Once-chilly places like Minnesota and Michigan and Vermont will become more temperate, verdant and inviting. Vast regions will prosper; just as Hsiang’s research forecast that Southern counties could see a tenth of their economy dry up, he projects that others as far as North Dakota and Minnesota will enjoy a corresponding expansion. Cities like Detroit, Rochester, Buffalo and Milwaukee will see a renaissance, with their excess capacity in infrastructure, water supplies and highways once again put to good use. One day, it’s possible that a high-speed rail line could race across the Dakotas, through Idaho’s up-and-coming wine country and the country’s new breadbasket along the Canadian border, to the megalopolis of Seattle, which by then has nearly merged with Vancouver to its north.

How Climate Migration Will Reshape America (Published 2020)

Millions will be displaced in the coming decades by fires, hurricanes, extreme heat and rising seas. Where will they go?

www.nytimes.com

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It's coming. You know it is.

Nothing else is working for Biden so out comes the old Climate Change bull shit.. And the paper cited has no proof of anything they are spouting.... BRAVO!! more baseless propaganda...

All I have to do is watch the 5pm News Weather Report. Guess what, it's warmer by at least 5 degrees, our water table is low, the percipitation below normal and the damned mountains are burning to the ground. We have just had 4 Record Forest Fires this year. And NOW they are saying we are entering into the forest fire season.

The fires aren't caused by an increase in temperature but by an increase in arsonists taking advantage of nut job enviros.

 

[liarintheWH]

The OP is a pussy.

Get a grip.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Excerpts from the link


... For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.

....... What I found was a nation on the cusp of a great transformation. Across the United States, some 162 million people — nearly one in two — will most likely experience a decline in the quality of their environment, namely more heat and less water. For 93 million of them, the changes could be particularly severe, and by 2070, our analysis suggests, if carbon emissions rise at extreme levels, at least four million Americans could find themselves living at the fringe, in places decidedly outside the ideal niche for human life. The cost of resisting the new climate reality is mounting. Florida officials have already acknowledged that defending some roadways against the sea will be unaffordable. And the nation’s federal flood-insurance program is for the first time requiring that some of its payouts be used to retreat from climate threats across the country. It will soon prove too expensive to maintain the status quo.

.... Then what? One influential 2018 study, published in The Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists, suggests that one in 12 Americans in the Southern half of the country will move toward California, the Mountain West or the Northwest over the next 45 years because of climate influences alone.....

There are signs that the message is breaking through. Half of Americans now rank climate as a top political priority, up from roughly one-third in 2016, and three out of four now describe climate change as either “a crisis” or “a major problem.”


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The author concludes these states will be the beneficiaries of a hotter climate:

The millions of people moving north will mostly head to the cities of the Northeast and Northwest, which will see their populations grow by roughly 10 percent, according to one model. Once-chilly places like Minnesota and Michigan and Vermont will become more temperate, verdant and inviting. Vast regions will prosper; just as Hsiang’s research forecast that Southern counties could see a tenth of their economy dry up, he projects that others as far as North Dakota and Minnesota will enjoy a corresponding expansion. Cities like Detroit, Rochester, Buffalo and Milwaukee will see a renaissance, with their excess capacity in infrastructure, water supplies and highways once again put to good use. One day, it’s possible that a high-speed rail line could race across the Dakotas, through Idaho’s up-and-coming wine country and the country’s new breadbasket along the Canadian border, to the megalopolis of Seattle, which by then has nearly merged with Vancouver to its north.

How Climate Migration Will Reshape America (Published 2020)

Millions will be displaced in the coming decades by fires, hurricanes, extreme heat and rising seas. Where will they go?

www.nytimes.com

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It's coming. You know it is.

So the only solution is more government, less freedom, and less quality of life.

This isn't the movies, climate doesn't change overnight, or even over decade, it takes centuries, and people can adjust.

What we shouldn't do is let watermelons like you define the "only way" to save ourselves.

The author’s prognostications take place within 60 years. You have it backward. There will be more government, less freedom and less quality of of life in the future if we do nothing about anthropogenic climate change NOW.

And the only cure is more government, less freedom, and lower quality of life.

And of course Marxism, lots and lots of Marxism.

Climate change should never be political.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Excerpts from the link


... For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.

....... What I found was a nation on the cusp of a great transformation. Across the United States, some 162 million people — nearly one in two — will most likely experience a decline in the quality of their environment, namely more heat and less water. For 93 million of them, the changes could be particularly severe, and by 2070, our analysis suggests, if carbon emissions rise at extreme levels, at least four million Americans could find themselves living at the fringe, in places decidedly outside the ideal niche for human life. The cost of resisting the new climate reality is mounting. Florida officials have already acknowledged that defending some roadways against the sea will be unaffordable. And the nation’s federal flood-insurance program is for the first time requiring that some of its payouts be used to retreat from climate threats across the country. It will soon prove too expensive to maintain the status quo.

.... Then what? One influential 2018 study, published in The Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists, suggests that one in 12 Americans in the Southern half of the country will move toward California, the Mountain West or the Northwest over the next 45 years because of climate influences alone.....

There are signs that the message is breaking through. Half of Americans now rank climate as a top political priority, up from roughly one-third in 2016, and three out of four now describe climate change as either “a crisis” or “a major problem.”


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The author concludes these states will be the beneficiaries of a hotter climate:

The millions of people moving north will mostly head to the cities of the Northeast and Northwest, which will see their populations grow by roughly 10 percent, according to one model. Once-chilly places like Minnesota and Michigan and Vermont will become more temperate, verdant and inviting. Vast regions will prosper; just as Hsiang’s research forecast that Southern counties could see a tenth of their economy dry up, he projects that others as far as North Dakota and Minnesota will enjoy a corresponding expansion. Cities like Detroit, Rochester, Buffalo and Milwaukee will see a renaissance, with their excess capacity in infrastructure, water supplies and highways once again put to good use. One day, it’s possible that a high-speed rail line could race across the Dakotas, through Idaho’s up-and-coming wine country and the country’s new breadbasket along the Canadian border, to the megalopolis of Seattle, which by then has nearly merged with Vancouver to its north.

How Climate Migration Will Reshape America (Published 2020)

Millions will be displaced in the coming decades by fires, hurricanes, extreme heat and rising seas. Where will they go?

www.nytimes.com

**********************************************************************************************
It's coming. You know it is.

Nothing else is working for Biden so out comes the old Climate Change bull shit.. And the paper cited has no proof of anything they are spouting.... BRAVO!! more baseless propaganda...

All I have to do is watch the 5pm News Weather Report. Guess what, it's warmer by at least 5 degrees, our water table is low, the percipitation below normal and the damned mountains are burning to the ground. We have just had 4 Record Forest Fires this year. And NOW they are saying we are entering into the forest fire season.

The fires aren't caused by an increase in temperature but by an increase in arsonists taking advantage of nut job enviros.

The fires here were caused by natural causes like lighting strikes. One was cause by a car pulling off into the side of the road with a hot exhaust. If we had normal rainfall and temperatures these either would not have set off the blazes or they would not have gone into the raging fires.

As for temperatures affecting, you have never seen a fire at night. A normal Fire will actually go into a form off hibernation at night due to the lower temperatures. These Super Fires do die down a bit but not enough to make a difference because the night time temps are also unseasonably high as well.

As for humans starting them, that does happen and it's not usually done by a pyro. If it's done by a human, it's usually done by a sloppy camper or some idiot tossing a lit cigarette out the window. Or some idiot with fireworks.

Now, exactly who gave you your information or is it the first stupid thought that popped into your mind and you just had to type it out?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Just WOW...

The last 20 years has been flat in temperature rise... ZERO RISE... At this pace we will fry in about.......


What I find amusing is they are predicting a 5 deg C rise over the next 5 years.. No way in hell that happens in our buffered based climactic system without the sun increasing by about 50 W/m^2...

In the last 40 years, we have had at least a 4 degree temp increase and a severe droop in rainfall. The repercussions of that to other states that depend on our water is severe. Don't let a little fact get in the way of your delusion.

Try again..

Water vapor and temperature are within normal cyclical variation..

Percentage of Water Vapor in the Atmosphere

The percentage of water vapor in air ranges from 0.2% to 4%. Temperature controls the amount of water in the atmosphere. Relative humidity measures the amount of water vapor relative to the maximum water vapor possible at that temperature. At saturation, 100% relative humidity, condensation occurs.

sciencing.com

Yes you are correct but it's out of balance. When the West is having super hot temps and super dry conditions which cause super fires, water shortages, and more, the east is floating away to the ocean in torrents and floods. Mother Nature is pissed.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

"So where will you go?"

Well, if you're a wealthy, powerful liberal, you'll buy a beach house.

And watch it float away in a few years.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Just WOW...

The last 20 years has been flat in temperature rise... ZERO RISE... At this pace we will fry in about.......


What I find amusing is they are prediciting a 5 deg C rise over the next 5 years.. No way in hell that happens in our buffered based climactic system without the sun increaseing by about 50 W/m^2...

In the last 40 years, we have had at least a 4 degree temp increase and a severe droop in rainfall. The repercussions of that to other states that depend on our water is severe. Don't let a little fact get in the way of your delusion.

Then maybe Commiefornia should quit dumping billions of gallons of fresh water into the ocean to keep the fish from getting thirsty...

You really need to expand on that statement.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Excerpts from the link


... For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.

....... What I found was a nation on the cusp of a great transformation. Across the United States, some 162 million people — nearly one in two — will most likely experience a decline in the quality of their environment, namely more heat and less water. For 93 million of them, the changes could be particularly severe, and by 2070, our analysis suggests, if carbon emissions rise at extreme levels, at least four million Americans could find themselves living at the fringe, in places decidedly outside the ideal niche for human life. The cost of resisting the new climate reality is mounting. Florida officials have already acknowledged that defending some roadways against the sea will be unaffordable. And the nation’s federal flood-insurance program is for the first time requiring that some of its payouts be used to retreat from climate threats across the country. It will soon prove too expensive to maintain the status quo.

.... Then what? One influential 2018 study, published in The Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists, suggests that one in 12 Americans in the Southern half of the country will move toward California, the Mountain West or the Northwest over the next 45 years because of climate influences alone.....

There are signs that the message is breaking through. Half of Americans now rank climate as a top political priority, up from roughly one-third in 2016, and three out of four now describe climate change as either “a crisis” or “a major problem.”


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The author concludes these states will be the beneficiaries of a hotter climate:

The millions of people moving north will mostly head to the cities of the Northeast and Northwest, which will see their populations grow by roughly 10 percent, according to one model. Once-chilly places like Minnesota and Michigan and Vermont will become more temperate, verdant and inviting. Vast regions will prosper; just as Hsiang’s research forecast that Southern counties could see a tenth of their economy dry up, he projects that others as far as North Dakota and Minnesota will enjoy a corresponding expansion. Cities like Detroit, Rochester, Buffalo and Milwaukee will see a renaissance, with their excess capacity in infrastructure, water supplies and highways once again put to good use. One day, it’s possible that a high-speed rail line could race across the Dakotas, through Idaho’s up-and-coming wine country and the country’s new breadbasket along the Canadian border, to the megalopolis of Seattle, which by then has nearly merged with Vancouver to its north.

How Climate Migration Will Reshape America (Published 2020)

Millions will be displaced in the coming decades by fires, hurricanes, extreme heat and rising seas. Where will they go?

www.nytimes.com

**********************************************************************************************
It's coming. You know it is.

So the only solution is more government, less freedom, and less quality of life.

This isn't the movies, climate doesn't change overnight, or even over decade, it takes centuries, and people can adjust.

What we shouldn't do is let watermelons like you define the "only way" to save ourselves.

The author’s prognostications take place within 60 years. You have it backward. There will be more government, less freedom and less quality of of life in the future if we do nothing about anthropogenic climate change NOW.

And the only cure is more government, less freedom, and lower quality of life.

And of course Marxism, lots and lots of Marxism.

Climate change should never be political.

Tell that to democrats.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Just WOW...

The last 20 years has been flat in temperature rise... ZERO RISE... At this pace we will fry in about.......


What I find amusing is they are prediciting a 5 deg C rise over the next 5 years.. No way in hell that happens in our buffered based climactic system without the sun increaseing by about 50 W/m^2...

In the last 40 years, we have had at least a 4 degree temp increase and a severe droop in rainfall. The repercussions of that to other states that depend on our water is severe. Don't let a little fact get in the way of your delusion.

Then maybe Commiefornia should quit dumping billions of gallons of fresh water into the ocean to keep the fish from getting thirsty...

Commiefornia would refill many of its aquifers if they watered their fields and grew crops... But stupid is as stupid does and they blow it out to sea for a damn slug.. They could have plenty of water for most everyone if they used commonsense.

California gets part of it's water from Colorado. Guess what, we are having an extreme water shortage due too excess heat. Our Colorado River is running at a record low. The Dams along that river are down at least 150 feet. The Lakes are low. Utah isn't any better. Nevada isn't doing so good either. The rest of their water comes from the northern Sierra Nevadas and they are having the same problems. Now, if you can figure out a way to get the excess water from the east we can cure all of that. Since you are so f***ing brilliant you should be able to come up with a solution to that in your part time Genius.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Excerpts from the link


... For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.

....... What I found was a nation on the cusp of a great transformation. Across the United States, some 162 million people — nearly one in two — will most likely experience a decline in the quality of their environment, namely more heat and less water. For 93 million of them, the changes could be particularly severe, and by 2070, our analysis suggests, if carbon emissions rise at extreme levels, at least four million Americans could find themselves living at the fringe, in places decidedly outside the ideal niche for human life. The cost of resisting the new climate reality is mounting. Florida officials have already acknowledged that defending some roadways against the sea will be unaffordable. And the nation’s federal flood-insurance program is for the first time requiring that some of its payouts be used to retreat from climate threats across the country. It will soon prove too expensive to maintain the status quo.

.... Then what? One influential 2018 study, published in The Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists, suggests that one in 12 Americans in the Southern half of the country will move toward California, the Mountain West or the Northwest over the next 45 years because of climate influences alone.....

There are signs that the message is breaking through. Half of Americans now rank climate as a top political priority, up from roughly one-third in 2016, and three out of four now describe climate change as either “a crisis” or “a major problem.”


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The author concludes these states will be the beneficiaries of a hotter climate:

The millions of people moving north will mostly head to the cities of the Northeast and Northwest, which will see their populations grow by roughly 10 percent, according to one model. Once-chilly places like Minnesota and Michigan and Vermont will become more temperate, verdant and inviting. Vast regions will prosper; just as Hsiang’s research forecast that Southern counties could see a tenth of their economy dry up, he projects that others as far as North Dakota and Minnesota will enjoy a corresponding expansion. Cities like Detroit, Rochester, Buffalo and Milwaukee will see a renaissance, with their excess capacity in infrastructure, water supplies and highways once again put to good use. One day, it’s possible that a high-speed rail line could race across the Dakotas, through Idaho’s up-and-coming wine country and the country’s new breadbasket along the Canadian border, to the megalopolis of Seattle, which by then has nearly merged with Vancouver to its north.

How Climate Migration Will Reshape America (Published 2020)

Millions will be displaced in the coming decades by fires, hurricanes, extreme heat and rising seas. Where will they go?

www.nytimes.com

**********************************************************************************************
It's coming. You know it is.

So the only solution is more government, less freedom, and less quality of life.

This isn't the movies, climate doesn't change overnight, or even over decade, it takes centuries, and people can adjust.

What we shouldn't do is let watermelons like you define the "only way" to save ourselves.

The author’s prognostications take place within 60 years. You have it backward. There will be more government, less freedom and less quality of of life in the future if we do nothing about anthropogenic climate change NOW.

And the only cure is more government, less freedom, and lower quality of life.

And of course Marxism, lots and lots of Marxism.

Climate change should never be political.

Tell that to democrats.

I am telling that to everyone including your stupid Rupersters.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Just WOW...

The last 20 years has been flat in temperature rise... ZERO RISE... At this pace we will fry in about.......


What I find amusing is they are prediciting a 5 deg C rise over the next 5 years.. No way in hell that happens in our buffered based climactic system without the sun increaseing by about 50 W/m^2...

In the last 40 years, we have had at least a 4 degree temp increase and a severe droop in rainfall. The repercussions of that to other states that depend on our water is severe. Don't let a little fact get in the way of your delusion.

Then maybe Commiefornia should quit dumping billions of gallons of fresh water into the ocean to keep the fish from getting thirsty...

Commiefornia would refill many of its aquifers if they watered their fields and grew crops... But stupid is as stupid does and they blow it out to sea for a damn slug.. They could have plenty of water for most everyone if they used commonsense.

Common sense has been criminalized in Communist California.

California isn't the only place that common sense has been criminilized, you Rumpsters add a pretty good seasoning to that recipe.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Excerpts from the link


... For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.

....... What I found was a nation on the cusp of a great transformation. Across the United States, some 162 million people — nearly one in two — will most likely experience a decline in the quality of their environment, namely more heat and less water. For 93 million of them, the changes could be particularly severe, and by 2070, our analysis suggests, if carbon emissions rise at extreme levels, at least four million Americans could find themselves living at the fringe, in places decidedly outside the ideal niche for human life. The cost of resisting the new climate reality is mounting. Florida officials have already acknowledged that defending some roadways against the sea will be unaffordable. And the nation’s federal flood-insurance program is for the first time requiring that some of its payouts be used to retreat from climate threats across the country. It will soon prove too expensive to maintain the status quo.

.... Then what? One influential 2018 study, published in The Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists, suggests that one in 12 Americans in the Southern half of the country will move toward California, the Mountain West or the Northwest over the next 45 years because of climate influences alone.....

There are signs that the message is breaking through. Half of Americans now rank climate as a top political priority, up from roughly one-third in 2016, and three out of four now describe climate change as either “a crisis” or “a major problem.”


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The author concludes these states will be the beneficiaries of a hotter climate:

The millions of people moving north will mostly head to the cities of the Northeast and Northwest, which will see their populations grow by roughly 10 percent, according to one model. Once-chilly places like Minnesota and Michigan and Vermont will become more temperate, verdant and inviting. Vast regions will prosper; just as Hsiang’s research forecast that Southern counties could see a tenth of their economy dry up, he projects that others as far as North Dakota and Minnesota will enjoy a corresponding expansion. Cities like Detroit, Rochester, Buffalo and Milwaukee will see a renaissance, with their excess capacity in infrastructure, water supplies and highways once again put to good use. One day, it’s possible that a high-speed rail line could race across the Dakotas, through Idaho’s up-and-coming wine country and the country’s new breadbasket along the Canadian border, to the megalopolis of Seattle, which by then has nearly merged with Vancouver to its north.

How Climate Migration Will Reshape America (Published 2020)

Millions will be displaced in the coming decades by fires, hurricanes, extreme heat and rising seas. Where will they go?

www.nytimes.com

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It's coming. You know it is.

So the only solution is more government, less freedom, and less quality of life.

This isn't the movies, climate doesn't change overnight, or even over decade, it takes centuries, and people can adjust.

What we shouldn't do is let watermelons like you define the "only way" to save ourselves.

The author’s prognostications take place within 60 years. You have it backward. There will be more government, less freedom and less quality of of life in the future if we do nothing about anthropogenic climate change NOW.

And the only cure is more government, less freedom, and lower quality of life.

And of course Marxism, lots and lots of Marxism.

Climate change should never be political.

Tell that to democrats.

I am telling that to everyone including your stupid Rupersters.

I don’t know what a ruperster is.
Democrats politically thrive on propagated AGW. That’s enough to generate more doubt.
Logic.

 

[flacaltenn]

Excerpts from the link


... For two years, I have been studying how climate change will influence global migration. My sense was that of all the devastating consequences of a warming planet — changing landscapes, pandemics, mass extinctions — the potential movement of hundreds of millions of climate refugees across the planet stands to be among the most important. I traveled across four countries to witness how rising temperatures were driving climate refugees away from some of the poorest and hottest parts of the world. I had also helped create an enormous computer simulation to analyze how global demographics might shift, and now I was working on a data-mapping project about migration here in the United States.

....... What I found was a nation on the cusp of a great transformation. Across the United States, some 162 million people — nearly one in two — will most likely experience a decline in the quality of their environment, namely more heat and less water. For 93 million of them, the changes could be particularly severe, and by 2070, our analysis suggests, if carbon emissions rise at extreme levels, at least four million Americans could find themselves living at the fringe, in places decidedly outside the ideal niche for human life. The cost of resisting the new climate reality is mounting. Florida officials have already acknowledged that defending some roadways against the sea will be unaffordable. And the nation’s federal flood-insurance program is for the first time requiring that some of its payouts be used to retreat from climate threats across the country. It will soon prove too expensive to maintain the status quo.

.... Then what? One influential 2018 study, published in The Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists, suggests that one in 12 Americans in the Southern half of the country will move toward California, the Mountain West or the Northwest over the next 45 years because of climate influences alone.....

There are signs that the message is breaking through. Half of Americans now rank climate as a top political priority, up from roughly one-third in 2016, and three out of four now describe climate change as either “a crisis” or “a major problem.”


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The author concludes these states will be the beneficiaries of a hotter climate:

The millions of people moving north will mostly head to the cities of the Northeast and Northwest, which will see their populations grow by roughly 10 percent, according to one model. Once-chilly places like Minnesota and Michigan and Vermont will become more temperate, verdant and inviting. Vast regions will prosper; just as Hsiang’s research forecast that Southern counties could see a tenth of their economy dry up, he projects that others as far as North Dakota and Minnesota will enjoy a corresponding expansion. Cities like Detroit, Rochester, Buffalo and Milwaukee will see a renaissance, with their excess capacity in infrastructure, water supplies and highways once again put to good use. One day, it’s possible that a high-speed rail line could race across the Dakotas, through Idaho’s up-and-coming wine country and the country’s new breadbasket along the Canadian border, to the megalopolis of Seattle, which by then has nearly merged with Vancouver to its north.

How Climate Migration Will Reshape America (Published 2020)

Millions will be displaced in the coming decades by fires, hurricanes, extreme heat and rising seas. Where will they go?

www.nytimes.com

**********************************************************************************************
It's coming. You know it is.

So the only solution is more government, less freedom, and less quality of life.

This isn't the movies, climate doesn't change overnight, or even over decade, it takes centuries, and people can adjust.

What we shouldn't do is let watermelons like you define the "only way" to save ourselves.

The author’s prognostications take place within 60 years. You have it backward. There will be more government, less freedom and less quality of of life in the future if we do nothing about anthropogenic climate change NOW.

Freedom and govt have NOTHING to do with Climate change. WHY? Because the scary projections that play on people's fears have been DOWNGRADED for DECADES now.. You should have spent your time NOT researching "where ya gonna go" and instead -- follow the science..

Sea level rise projected DOWN by a factor of 3 to 6 since 1985.. Temperatures DOWN in 2100 by a factor of 2 to 4.. At the current rate of sea level rise for example -- the water at the shore will be 6 to 8 INCHES higher in 2060... And Antarctica MAY MELT a bit -- but just in the past 8 years or so the "Science Says" -- it would more likely be from ACTIVE VOLCANIC ACTIVITY under the West Ant. Ice shelf than by Global Warming..

And the NYTimes playing on your FEARS with that opening pic of the Cali fires? -- GW plays almost no role.. MORE important factors are LAND USE issues -- causing MORE PEOPLE and infrastructure to live in proximity to fire prone areas and BAD non-scientific theories of forest management purveyed by leftist lunatics that want NO "forest/wilderness management"...

LOTS of reasons why the GW circus train is stalled on the tracks.. Because the "level of crisis" is NOWHERE NEAR what the original hysteria and hype predicted.. But old outdated scary shit on the internet and bad public school indoctrination, and shady moronic politicians like AOC telling kids they have 12 years to live have been LARGELY REJECTED as the hype they are.. And excuses for BIGGER GOVT programs that have zilch to do with the environment or GWeirding..

You can sit on the train.. But it aint going anywhere fast these days...

 

[fncceo]

I'm not going anywhere. Warming can only make my hometown better.