So, What Was The Bottom Line To The Chat Group Security Flub?

[Mac-7]

Confidential information is classified. Confidential in the lowest level on classification.

If its so damaging why did the lib journalist leak it to the enemy?

 

[Couchpotato]

If its so damaging why did the lib journalist leak it to the enemy?

To be fair post strike even if the messages had detailed target info it wouldn’t be of much use.

 

[Mac-7]

To be fair post strike even if the messages had detailed target info it wouldn’t be of much use.

In that case no harm was done but the trump team but may have helped the enemy in some small way

 

[MagicMike]

I see lefty after lefty after lefty hyping this up for political reasons like some really awful thing. Yes, it was indeed a flub and should be learned from. Took me by surprise that we even have a group chat over a national security thing as important as this was.

But, what was really the bottom line of it all? Did it mess up our attack plans? No.

Did it expose classifed security to our enemies? Doesn't seem to have. As I understand it, the info was accidentally texted to a US reporter and, to the best of my knowledge, he did nothing nefarious with the information which would be traitorous to our country, therefore none of the flub had anything to do with anything detrimental to our country.

Yes, it was careless, just as Hillary Clinton's email server in her basement which could easily be hacked by our enemies was labeled extremely careless.

But, to the best of my knowledge, this is all a huge nothingburger being used as political ammo against Trump that does need to be fixed.

You should really be asking yourself how you would be reacting if this had occurred on a Democrat's watch.
Quite differently I suspect.

 

[dudmuck]

If its so damaging why did the lib journalist leak it to the enemy?

because top Trump officials insisted it wasnt classified.

 

[krichton]

The federal office in charge of ensuring cybersecurity at all levels of the government cited the use of encrypted messaging app Signal as a "best practice" for "highly targeted" government officials, the Biden-era document shows.

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A Biden-era Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) best guidance document shows highly-targeted government employees were encouraged to use Signal.

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https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability

"The 2023 Defense Department memo prohibited use of mobile applications for even "controlled unclassified information," which is many degrees less important than information about ongoing military operations.

There's almost no precedent for the heads of defense, state, intelligence and national security to be sharing such sensitive military intelligence in a forum that was known to be unsecured."

I guess there goes that talking point.

 

[Couchpotato]

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https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5339801/pentagon-email-signal-vulnerability

"The 2023 Defense Department memo prohibited use of mobile applications for even "controlled unclassified information," which is many degrees less important than information about ongoing military operations.

There's almost no precedent for the heads of defense, state, intelligence and national security to be sharing such sensitive military intelligence in a forum that was known to be unsecured."

I guess there goes that talking point.

The hyperbole surrounding this is pretty astounding.

1. They 100% shouldnt have been talking on Signal or any other of the messaging services. If you put it out on the air it's vulnerable. Anyone who says differently is either foolish or lying.

2. The information that was put on there wasn't all that sensitive. It in fact wasnt sensitive at all really. There was no actual target data. Who was going to be hit and where couldnt have been ascertained from the messages. They could have broadcast that on live TV and the intended tgt wouldnt have known he was the target until the bombs started dropping.

3. That doesnt excuse them using it but let's not act like they were transmitting highly sensitive information.

 

[krichton]

The hyperbole surrounding this is pretty astounding.

1. They 100% shouldnt have been talking on Signal or any other of the messaging services. If you put it out on the air it's vulnerable. Anyone who says differently is either foolish or lying.

2. The information that was put on there wasn't all that sensitive. It in fact wasnt sensitive at all really. There was no actual target data. Who was going to be hit and where couldnt have been ascertained from the messages. They could have broadcast that on live TV and the intended tgt wouldnt have known he was the target until the bombs started dropping.

3. That doesnt excuse them using it but let's not act like they were transmitting highly sensitive information.

But this was the only time they've been caught. Who knows what they've discussed on there before, and what they would have discussed in the future, if Goldberg had never exposed them. Also, an active agent's name was revealed in that chat as well. Let's not forget that. This is still a security breach against the warnings of the Pentagon. You gotta recognize the extreme dichotomy of the situation here.

But that is what's happening right now. The entire Trump cabinet and Trump himself are absolutely excusing it and trying to sweep it under the rug.

 

[Mac-7]

because top Trump officials insisted it wasnt classified.

But libs knew trump was lying and that the chat was damaging to national security

which is why the lib reporter released it to the public

because in lib la la land hurting national security is ok if it hurts trump too

 

[krichton]

But libs knew trump was lying and that the chat was damaging to national security

which is why the lib reporter released it to the public

because in lib la la land hurting national security is ok if it hurts trump too

So if Goldberg buried this story, only for it to come out later, you of course, would never ever call this a cover up, would you, despite it being exactly that!

 

[Independent thinker]

You should really be asking yourself how you would be reacting if this had occurred on a Democrat's watch.
Quite differently I suspect.

Thanks for admitting there is nothing to it but biased partisan hype.

 

[dudmuck]

But libs knew trump was lying and that the chat was damaging to national security

which is why the lib reporter released it to the public

because in lib la la land hurting national security is ok if it hurts trump too

the damage was done when the press was added to the group chat.

 

[MagicMike]

Thanks for admitting there is nothing to it but biased partisan hype.

Nice try. This was a horrible security breech at the highest levels of government.
Truth is with people like Hegseth and Trump in charge we don't even need enemies.

 

[Marener]

If its so damaging why did the lib journalist leak it to the enemy?

Given the information no longer presented a threat to the operation, and given the Trump administration was blatantly lying about it, they made a judgement call.

 

[Independent thinker]

Nice try. This was a horrible security breech at the highest levels of government.
Truth is with people like Hegseth and Trump in charge we don't even need enemies.

That's not what you said in your other post.

 

[MagicMike]

That's not what you said in your other post.

So?

 

[Independent thinker]

So?

LOL. You're funny.

 

[jbrownson0831]

But libs knew trump was lying and that the chat was damaging to national security

which is why the lib reporter released it to the public

because in lib la la land hurting national security is ok if it hurts trump too

Any real American would have made the Administration aware of the mistake immediately. This idiot should be thrown in jail.

 

[Mac-7]

So if Goldberg buried this story, only for it to come out later, you of course, would never ever call this a cover up, would you, despite it being exactly that!

Goldberg did sit on the story

So IF there was a danger to our warriors Goldberg kept it to himself for up to a week

Instead of taking his worry to the trump administration first

 

[Mac-7]

Given the information no longer presented a threat to the operation, and given the Trump administration was blatantly lying about it, they made a judgement call.

He could have alerted the white house instead of going public