So, What Was The Bottom Line To The Chat Group Security Flub?

[Mac-7]

Are you accusing the CUA of breaking protocol? Got any evidence?

I dont know what you are talking about

Signal is authorized for official government business

All of which is confidential

 

[rightwinger]

So the CIA uses it only to chat about golfing or other light topics?

Dont make me laugh

Not for classified topics

 

[Mac-7]

Not for classified topics

Everything in government is classified

And that goes double for the CIA

Face it, you lost again

 

[rightwinger]

Everything in government is classified

And that goes double for the CIA

Face it, you lost again

Of course it isn’t you idiot

Classified information is classified.
Unclassified information can be discussed on open lines

 

[JGalt]

Shrugging, huh?

If you idiots can shrug off the worst "president" we ever had for the last four years, this one's a piece of cake.

 

[Mac-7]

Of course it isn’t you idiot

Classified information is classified.
Unclassified information can be discussed on open lines

Nice try, but you are just spinning your wheels now

At first I thought libs might be onto something but not now

 

[rightwinger]

Nice try, but you are just spinning your wheels now

At first I thought libs might be onto something but not now

I was right
You are an idiot

You know nothing about classified information

 

[Cellblock2429]

I see lefty after lefty after lefty hyping this up for political reasons like some really awful thing. Yes, it was indeed a flub and should be learned from. Took me by surprise that we even have a group chat over a national security thing as important as this was.

But, what was really the bottom line of it all? Did it mess up our attack plans? No.

Did it expose classifed security to our enemies? Doesn't seem to have. As I understand it, the info was accidentally texted to a US reporter and, to the best of my knowledge, he did nothing nefarious with the information which would be traitorous to our country, therefore none of the flub had anything to do with anything detrimental to our country.

Yes, it was careless, just as Hillary Clinton's email server in her basement which could easily be hacked by our enemies was labeled extremely careless.

But, to the best of my knowledge, this is all a huge nothingburger being used as political ammo against Trump that does need to be fixed.

/----/ A big fat...

with a lifespan of a gnat.

 

[rightwinger]

/----/ A big fat...
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with a lifespan of a gnat.

Move along….nothing to see here

 

[Mac-7]

I was right
You are an idiot

You know nothing about classified information

Cheap personal insults are not going to win any arguments

 

[Billiejeens]

Your ignorance is astounding.

 

[Billiejeens]

MAGA lies.

Describe the disclosures that you see.

 

[22lcidw]

Hillary committed crimes erasing the server. This is not the same. The famous Progressive Socialist Communist comparison game. Hers is more akin to Nixon's secretary erasing the 18 minutes of tape keeping her foot on the floor lever for that amount of time even if stretching to do other things. Nixon, I believe now was destroyed by the Progressives and the then Republicans went along with it. Today's Republicans know this, and it may still bristle some of them.

 

[struth]

I remember the "Air Balloon" was a Yuge crisis with the trump cult.
A fucking "Air Balloon"

But inviting and allowing an outsider into a war chat........ perfectly OK, what's the big deal.

you mean the Chinese spy balloon that Xiden allowed to fly across the entire United States and collect data for the Chinese?

You are comparing that to non-classified information, about an on going strike, accidently getting to an American reporter? Really? and you wonder why your party only has a 21 percent approval rating and we call you a cult

 

[CowboyTed]

I see lefty after lefty after lefty hyping this up for political reasons like some really awful thing. Yes, it was indeed a flub and should be learned from. Took me by surprise that we even have a group chat over a national security thing as important as this was.

But, what was really the bottom line of it all? Did it mess up our attack plans? No.

Did it expose classifed security to our enemies? Doesn't seem to have. As I understand it, the info was accidentally texted to a US reporter and, to the best of my knowledge, he did nothing nefarious with the information which would be traitorous to our country, therefore none of the flub had anything to do with anything detrimental to our country.

Yes, it was careless, just as Hillary Clinton's email server in her basement which could easily be hacked by our enemies was labeled extremely careless.

But, to the best of my knowledge, this is all a huge nothingburger being used as political ammo against Trump that does need to be fixed.

The bottom line is that senior security people in Trump Admin used a hacked platform to talk about the most sensitive of discussions...
It seems this is not their first time andit looks like there was a lot more use of this hacked platform...

Not one in the group said they shouldn't be using a hacked platform outside US Government security and record keeping... Not One.

Let's be clear, if the local cop did this with case information, he would be fired... Straight out fired. Everyone on the chat who engaged in the chat would be looking at dismissal or demotion as well..

The 5 eyes program which US leans heavily on is seriously compromised by US lax approach to security. They initially were worried that Trump could share information because he simply doesn't understand how security works. But now they know he is surrounded by people that don't know either...

But what is obvious to everyone, nothing is going to happen... This will not be fixed, this will still continue... This behaviour will be still encouraged and continue.

This is not rock bottom as the OP is pointing out... They will go lower and defend them, there is no shock when they will do worse than this...

 

[dudmuck]

Hillary committed crimes erasing the server. This is not the same. The famous Progressive Socialist Communist comparison game. Hers is more akin to Nixon's secretary erasing the 18 minutes of tape keeping her foot on the floor lever for that amount of time even if stretching to do other things. Nixon, I believe now was destroyed by the Progressives and the then Republicans went along with it. Today's Republicans know this, and it may still bristle some of them.

Hillary had believed the deleted emails were not work-related. Comey had reiterated this.

 

[CowboyTed]

Oh, this is a layer cake of incompetence, corruption, naked idiocy, criminality, and frantic, desperate cocksucking.

First, the actual communications themselves on Signal. Holy shit. Conservatives lost their fucking shit for years over the possibility that someone might have hacked Hillary's Email, as it was unsecured. Literal years of frantic panty shitting, weeping, wailing and gnashing their teeth. Lamenting about how 'no one is above the law'. Claims that we'd 'lose the confidence of allies'.

And this gem, as clear a demonstration that republicans don't give the fiddler's fuck about anything they babbled about. Pete in particular, a rank amateur who is clearly out of his depth, waxed eloquent in outrage at how DARE Hillary use unsecured communications when he was a professional MAGA mouthpiece on FOX. And then they discuss actual military planning on an unsecure line via a method of communication Russia is known to have attacked and attempted to infiltrate.

Pure, dipshit incompetence with all the security of a facebook messager group chat. And every last one of them knew better.

Second.....adding an Atlantic Reporter to the group chat. What the actual fuck? What in the fuck were they thinking? This was carelessness and recklessness for active, live military operations with live ammunition. And these blithering, mouth breathing idiots invite a reporter to just watch the planning in real time? Where they reveal what they are going to attack, with what, in what sequence, and even out the name of CIA assets?

Again, YEARS of hysterics about Hillary's Email server on the mere POSSIBILITY that classified information could have been released. And here was have the absolute reality of it, on time sensitive military actions.

Pure, dipshit incompetence.

Third.......destroying records. The Signal messages were purposefully set to disappear after a week, a startling and intentional destruction of official government communications. They are intentionally, purposefully, and with care attempting to violate federal law to keep their communications from the American people.

And there is 0% chance that this is the first thing they've ever discussed, or that there aren't other important communications that they are trying to hide from American people in violation of federal law.

Fourth.......the dipshit denials. Again, we've got the Pete the Village Idiot, insisting that there was no war planning despite the National Security Council ALREADY confirming it happened. And of course, we got the standard MAGA 'head-down, ass-up' victim playbook where they start babbling about 'russian hoaxes', insulting the reporter, insulting the publications, and throwing snowflake tantrums.

All on shit that was already confirmed. Even their denials are demonstrations of their naked incompetence, the amateur-hour fumbling by unqualified hacks that are weakening our national security with their blithering idiocy. They can't even LIE with any competence. This from a man that already said that sharing classified information on non-secure channels was offense worthy of getting fired immediately.

But not him, of course. MAGA never applies their own standard to themselves.

Fifth.......the desperate cocksucking. With MAGA apologists coming out of the wood work to try polish this fetid, runny turd of incompetent, disphsit nonsense. Telling us that it didn't happen. Okay, it did happen, but it wasn't serious. Okay, it was serious, but it doesn't matter. Okay, it does matter, but Russian Hoax!

The desperation, the olympic level hypocrisy, the frantic turd polishing, its all so hilarious to watch. And demonstrate more elegantly than any critque of this dumpster fire of an administration that these hapless fools doesn't believe any of their own bullshit.

With our board's own obsequious taint-lickers lapping with an almost frenetic intensity to show their Orange Daddy that they're all good boys....ready to gobble whatever the fuck they're told to think.

And we're only 2 months in to this disaster.

I think point 4 and 5 are really important...

They are not learning from this and are determined to repeat the mistake.

As you say we only 60 days in and MAGA have already said this behaviour is allowed and should be ignored... Democrats at least said that Hillary shouldn't have done what she did and it shouldn't happen. They pointed out that this was done by previous SoS but it had to STOP... Hillary was not discussing War Plans on her server.

So let's prepare for worse...

 

[CowboyTed]

you mean the Chinese spy balloon that Xiden allowed to fly across the entire United States and collect data for the Chinese?

You are comparing that to non-classified information, about an on going strike, accidently getting to an American reporter? Really? and you wonder why your party only has a 21 percent approval rating and we call you a cult

You know that balloon was unguided... It was one of the biggest piece of bullshit... They got better intel from Google Earth...

But thanks for being honest...

This is the MAGA response and they are clearly while this is a new low, this is not the rock bottom...

I want no one to say in the future that they are shocked, the next new low is expected.

 

[22lcidw]

Hillary had believed the deleted emails were not work-related. Comey had reiterated this.

Well Hillary believed this. That makes it proper. I did not create this nation where everything a politician or related does anything it is questioned. Where we go after the person and not the results of political decisions first. Anyway, nothing happened as the objective was achieved. Goldberg is a Progressive Socialist Communist stooge who hates Trump anyway. Just like Woodward and Bernstein who are Progressive Socialist Communist stooges. Will this be the same Prog agenda of stretching it out for months. It will be interesting to see how this happened. And of course there are Prog commie traitors also embedded in government.

 

[konradv]

I dont know what you are talking about

Signal is authorized for official government business

All of which is confidential

Signal is not approved for all government business. Discussion of military strikes is not normal business.