So very sorry Republicans Putin gambled and lost

[jc456]

It is not mine to define, but has always meant that when something is needed by a society that no one individual can produce for themselves, or is too wasteful for everyone to do individually, you pool resource and do it collectively.
And example would be a dam in order to ensure a constant water supply.
It is created collectively, communally, and shared cooperatively.

Those who thing that this collective resource implies anything about the means of making political decisions, are confused.
Economic system like communism and socialism have nothing to do with political decision making systems.
If there is any implication, it is that any shared economic resource would then be best with a shared political decision making system.

If you can’t define what you are stating, I can’t reasonably discuss your statement. You made it

 

[Billiejeens]

How is the communal sharing of families and tribes, NOT communism?

Is it every way?

Yes.

(let me guess, Government School?)

 

[Billiejeens]

If you want to find the oldest living humans, you go into rural areas.
Rural and more primitive people live vastly longer than modern urban individuals.
Primitive people have it much better than we do.
They on average only work on survival for 2.5 hours per day, compared to our 10 hours a day.

And primitive tribes have the MOST freedom and say.
There is no means by which anyone can control them.
The tribal leader is only by consensus and has nothing by which to extort anything else.
That does not come until later, with agriculture, you get arbitrary land ownership, taxes, mercenaries, etc.

Modern communism can be whatever the people want it to be.
But anyone who does not see the advantage of pooling resource in order to make shared means of production, is not very bright.

I honestly just don't think that someone as ignorant as you obviously are can be helped.

 

[Billiejeens]

If you can’t define what you are stating, I can’t reasonably discuss your statement. You made it

It is weird that everyone who promotes Socialism or Communism thinks that it is something other than what it is.?

 

[jc456]

It is weird that everyone who promotes Socialism or Communism thinks that it is something other than what it is.?

well it's obvious they can't define their own point.

 

[DarthTrader]

Looks like Putin is still winning.

 

[Billiejeens]

well it's obvious they can't define their own point.

Examples of Socialism are always Public things funds by taxes on Capitalism - Police, Fire etc.

Communism is sharing like in a commune man, can you dig it?

No.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Capitalism is the pure profit motive, and is an obvious threat to everything.

Mostly a threat to commie shitholes.

 

[daveman]

If you want to find the oldest living humans, you go into rural areas.
Rural and more primitive people live vastly longer than modern urban individuals.
Primitive people have it much better than we do.
They on average only work on survival for 2.5 hours per day, compared to our 10 hours a day.

And primitive tribes have the MOST freedom and say.
There is no means by which anyone can control them.
The tribal leader is only by consensus and has nothing by which to extort anything else.
That does not come until later, with agriculture, you get arbitrary land ownership, taxes, mercenaries, etc.

Modern communism can be whatever the people want it to be.
But anyone who does not see the advantage of pooling resource in order to make shared means of production, is not very bright.

Isn't it odd, then, that most people supporting Communism now just want free shit without having to work for it?

 

[Soupnazi630]

Since the only way to survive once someone starts claiming ownership of land they did not create, is a job, then yes job security is a right. It is not unconditional and you have to earn it, but can not be arbitrarily denied by those extorting with a monopoly, child labor, illegal immigrants, temporary union busters, etc.

Capitalism is the pure profit motive, and is an obvious threat to everything.
Every single crime in the world is due to the corrupt motivation of capitalism.

It is true capitalism is the most powerful motivator, so is responsible for our wealth, but is also responsoble for the down fall of all previous most wealthy societies.

Capitalism is not about pure profit motive

It threatens nothing and has caused no crimes but has reduced poverty more than any other economic system in human history.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It is not mine to define, but has always meant that when something is needed by a society that no one individual can produce for themselves, or is too wasteful for everyone to do individually, you pool resource and do it collectively.
And example would be a dam in order to ensure a constant water supply.
It is created collectively, communally, and shared cooperatively.

Those who thing that this collective resource implies anything about the means of making political decisions, are confused.
Economic system like communism and socialism have nothing to do with political decision making systems.
If there is any implication, it is that any shared economic resource would then be best with a shared political decision making system.

Communism is never cooperative or communal it is always and strictly tryannical

 

[Soupnazi630]

All families are communist, are families stupid?
In fact, all tribes are communist.
Humans have been around for over a million years, and were communist until the last couple thousand years only.

Families are not communist they are cooperative.

Communism is by design and deifnition authroitarian and tyrannical

 

[Soupnazi630]

Originally primitive people understand that no one can really "own" land because they did not create it.
You can only use land, and it is supposed to then be shared.
That is why the natives on Long Island took just a handful of beads for the island.
They understood no one could really own land, and that everyone is just borrowing use for a while.

But the whole corruption comes from the desertification that started along the Mediterranean.
It decreased viable living space, so created a market for land that never existed before.
Along with agriculture, which produced production surpluses that could be used to pay mercenaries, it allowed for an immoral takeover of nature, for profit. The selling and renting of land which the landlord did not really create, so then did not really own.
Selling and renting of land is not moral.
It is the origin of capitalist extortion.

Selling and renting land is perfedtly moral and never extortion.

Selling and renting are , by definition , consensual.

The trade of long ilsand for beads was fair. It was a trasde of value for value

 

[Soupnazi630]

If you want to find the oldest living humans, you go into rural areas.
Rural and more primitive people live vastly longer than modern urban individuals.
Primitive people have it much better than we do.
They on average only work on survival for 2.5 hours per day, compared to our 10 hours a day.

And primitive tribes have the MOST freedom and say.
There is no means by which anyone can control them.
The tribal leader is only by consensus and has nothing by which to extort anything else.
That does not come until later, with agriculture, you get arbitrary land ownership, taxes, mercenaries, etc.

Modern communism can be whatever the people want it to be.
But anyone who does not see the advantage of pooling resource in order to make shared means of production, is not very bright.

WRONG>

Primitive people average a life expectancy of 30 aqnd work from sun up to sundown in back breaking fashion JUST TO EAT

GTribal leaders are always authroitarian and rule by force

 

[toobfreak]

Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost

As usual dumbass, you were wrong again. Biddum gambled everything and lost, NATO lost, meantime Putin is still getting richer by the day, still selling oil and gas, doing swimmingly well, and will be taking the Ukraine too. Idiot.

 

[Godboy]

Putin is not a leftist. He's a Nazis-type NATIONALIST, like those that support Trump.

Trump supporters hate communists.