So These the "Bad Hombres" Trump Wants to Get Rid Of?

[Third Party]

i'm convinced he has the mark under that tribble covering his scalp.........

Don't believe in the devil-sorry

The devil Byrd’s ok but trump that never did anything can’t be forgiven! Imagine that! Can you say surprised?

How can you or anyone with 2 brains to rub together say trump never did anything? The mans history is full of slime and he brought it with him to the WH

Trump did do a lot-of good!

Ask a farmer of the good he's doing

None are starving, are they? Good time for this though, with the floods and everything.

 

[Dragonlady]

Is anyone going to try to argue that cruelty isn't the point of this?

Trump Moves To Deport Sick Migrant Children From The US

Step by malicious step, the Trump administration is turning the American immigration system into an apparatus of appalling, intentional cruelty.

The latest case in point is a relatively small program known as “medical deferred action,” in which immigrants without legal status who are suffering from serious medical conditions are granted a reprieve from deportation so that they can have access to much-needed medical treatment in the United States.

Trump halted the program this month, threatening to deport these patients, including children with leukemia, muscular dystrophy, or cystic fibrosis
​

Sounds good.

Of course it sounds good to you because you're just that stupid and gullible.

But it's not working. In fact, the more Trump tries to close the border, the more people are desperate to get in. Illegal border crossings are at a 15 year high BECAUSE of Trump's policies. So no, it doesn't sound good, if your goal is to reduce illegal border crossings.

The bald fact is that Trump has done everything possible to increase illegal border crossings - metering refugees, making desperate people wait months to get in. Anything that will frighten these people into thinking they have to go now, so that he can drive up the numbers and justify building the wall. After all, Trump can't claim there's a "crisis" if border crossings are at a 50 year low, can he?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Is anyone going to try to argue that cruelty isn't the point of this?

Trump Moves To Deport Sick Migrant Children From The US

Step by malicious step, the Trump administration is turning the American immigration system into an apparatus of appalling, intentional cruelty.

The latest case in point is a relatively small program known as “medical deferred action,” in which immigrants without legal status who are suffering from serious medical conditions are granted a reprieve from deportation so that they can have access to much-needed medical treatment in the United States.

Trump halted the program this month, threatening to deport these patients, including children with leukemia, muscular dystrophy, or cystic fibrosis
​

Sounds good.

Of course it sounds good to you because you're just that stupid and gullible.

But it's not working. In fact, the more Trump tries to close the border, the more people are desperate to get in. Illegal border crossings are at a 15 year high BECAUSE of Trump's policies. So no, it doesn't sound good, if your goal is to reduce illegal border crossings.

The bald fact is that Trump has done everything possible to increase illegal border crossings - metering refugees, making desperate people wait months to get in. Anything that will frighten these people into thinking they have to go now, so that he can drive up the numbers and justify building the wall. After all, Trump can't claim there's a "crisis" if border crossings are at a 50 year low, can he?

They are in Canada now

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Is anyone going to try to argue that cruelty isn't the point of this?

Trump Moves To Deport Sick Migrant Children From The US

Step by malicious step, the Trump administration is turning the American immigration system into an apparatus of appalling, intentional cruelty.

The latest case in point is a relatively small program known as “medical deferred action,” in which immigrants without legal status who are suffering from serious medical conditions are granted a reprieve from deportation so that they can have access to much-needed medical treatment in the United States.

Trump halted the program this month, threatening to deport these patients, including children with leukemia, muscular dystrophy, or cystic fibrosis
​

Sounds good.

Of course it sounds good to you because you're just that stupid and gullible.

But it's not working. In fact, the more Trump tries to close the border, the more people are desperate to get in. Illegal border crossings are at a 15 year high BECAUSE of Trump's policies. So no, it doesn't sound good, if your goal is to reduce illegal border crossings.

The bald fact is that Trump has done everything possible to increase illegal border crossings - metering refugees, making desperate people wait months to get in. Anything that will frighten these people into thinking they have to go now, so that he can drive up the numbers and justify building the wall. After all, Trump can't claim there's a "crisis" if border crossings are at a 50 year low, can he?

Why can't he? We still have an estimated 20 million in this country.

The people drawing the immigrants to this country are the Democrats, not Trump. Since Trump made immigration a priority on his agenda, the Democrats have never been so animated and vocal about protecting illegals. They try to stop him in Congress. What they don't stop, their commie activist judges do, they've sent their leftist lawyers over the border to teach immigrants how to fill out and lie on their application without getting caught, of course, they are fighting harder than ever to stop the wall. They have used their media to create the most bizarre stories. And you think people wanting to come here don't see that?

 

[Third Party]

Is anyone going to try to argue that cruelty isn't the point of this?

Trump Moves To Deport Sick Migrant Children From The US

Step by malicious step, the Trump administration is turning the American immigration system into an apparatus of appalling, intentional cruelty.

The latest case in point is a relatively small program known as “medical deferred action,” in which immigrants without legal status who are suffering from serious medical conditions are granted a reprieve from deportation so that they can have access to much-needed medical treatment in the United States.

Trump halted the program this month, threatening to deport these patients, including children with leukemia, muscular dystrophy, or cystic fibrosis
​

Sounds good.

Of course it sounds good to you because you're just that stupid and gullible.

But it's not working. In fact, the more Trump tries to close the border, the more people are desperate to get in. Illegal border crossings are at a 15 year high BECAUSE of Trump's policies. So no, it doesn't sound good, if your goal is to reduce illegal border crossings.

The bald fact is that Trump has done everything possible to increase illegal border crossings - metering refugees, making desperate people wait months to get in. Anything that will frighten these people into thinking they have to go now, so that he can drive up the numbers and justify building the wall. After all, Trump can't claim there's a "crisis" if border crossings are at a 50 year low, can he?

Don't know who you are talking at but the illegals never would get in without the support of Democrats. The wall should have been built already and these pregnant or sick illegals need to be put out. You are part of the problem with your false welcoming of worthless illegals and their illnesses-if they applied legally, they would get a sense of satisfaction from being chosen rather than being snuck in and reviled for it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Is anyone going to try to argue that cruelty isn't the point of this?

Trump Moves To Deport Sick Migrant Children From The US

Step by malicious step, the Trump administration is turning the American immigration system into an apparatus of appalling, intentional cruelty.

The latest case in point is a relatively small program known as “medical deferred action,” in which immigrants without legal status who are suffering from serious medical conditions are granted a reprieve from deportation so that they can have access to much-needed medical treatment in the United States.

Trump halted the program this month, threatening to deport these patients, including children with leukemia, muscular dystrophy, or cystic fibrosis
​

Sounds good.

Of course it sounds good to you because you're just that stupid and gullible.

But it's not working. In fact, the more Trump tries to close the border, the more people are desperate to get in. Illegal border crossings are at a 15 year high BECAUSE of Trump's policies. So no, it doesn't sound good, if your goal is to reduce illegal border crossings.

The bald fact is that Trump has done everything possible to increase illegal border crossings - metering refugees, making desperate people wait months to get in. Anything that will frighten these people into thinking they have to go now, so that he can drive up the numbers and justify building the wall. After all, Trump can't claim there's a "crisis" if border crossings are at a 50 year low, can he?

Don't know who you are talking at but the illegals never would get in without the support of Democrats. The wall should have been built already and these pregnant or sick illegals need to be put out. You are part of the problem with your false welcoming of worthless illegals and their illnesses-if they applied legally, they would get a sense of satisfaction from being chosen rather than being snuck in and reviled for it.

Dragon is from Canada, and they have less issues with illegals because the easiest route to their country is through us, and even that's well guarded.

Here are some of the highlights of their country with immigration:

Almost everyone who immigrates to Canada has to first apply from overseas, and before they’re granted entry they’re subjected to extensive vetting by Canadian authorities. Those who make the cut have to wait months or years for their turn in line before being let in. Over the past 20 years, about 5 millionimmigrants chose Canada. But the vast majority only entered the country after Canada also chose them.

As for illegal and irregular immigration, Canadian governments from both ends of the political spectrum have worked—quietly—to ensure there is as little of it as possible. The unspoken underpinning of Canada’s otherwise welcoming immigration policy is a giant and assiduously maintained border wall.

Wait, what? Yes, Canada has a border wall—in a sense. In fact, it has five of them. Four are geographic, the fifth is bureaucratic. All have been extremely effective in sustaining the legitimacy and popularity of Canada’s immigration policy.

Three of the walls are the dumb luck of geography: the Atlantic, Pacific, and Arctic oceans. You can cross the Aegean from Asia to Europe in a dinghy, but unless you can get your hands on a ship and a crew trained in navigating thousands of miles of difficult water, you aren’t sailing to Canada. So far in 2018, Canada has received exactly 10 asylum applications at sea ports.

Toronto’s Pearson International Airport is one of North America’s busiest hubs, with direct flights from nearly every continent. But if you want to come to Canada, it’s obviously not as simple as buying a plane ticket. Visitors from a long list of countries need to apply in advance for a visa, and if they’re coming from a place that has recently sent Canada more than a certain number of asylum applicants or vacation over-stayers, that visa may suddenly become difficult to get. And without a visa, the airline won’t let you on the plane.

Despite Canada’s open-door reputation, the country has some of the world’s most restrictive visa rules. A World Economic Forum survey of travel and tourism professionals ranked Canada among the worst in the world—120th out of 136 countries—for the restrictiveness of its visitor visa requirements. It’s a quiet but effective means of preempting irregular immigration.

Canada Has Its Own Ways of Keeping Out Unwanted Immigrants

So Dragonlady has little room to criticize the US on our attempts on bringing our immigration under more control.

 

[playtime]

Everything about what Care did, was dishonest.

Like what? Be specific, what was dishonest in what I said? No bull shit allowed... spell it out.

You claim that Trump supporters are being "tested by God".


That is a lie. You are an atheist, you dont' believe in God.


If you did, it would be some agnostic free form shit, that you would not expect to do personal "tests" for people.


That spelled out clear enough for you?

It's only the Christian Trump supporters that are being tested by God. God gave them an F.

how does a devout Christian support Trump? He's the antithesis of everything Christ stood for.

The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University, one of the largest Christian universities in the world, put it this way: “Conservatives & Christians need to stop electing ‘nice guys.’ They might make great Christian leaders but the United States needs street fighters like @realDonaldTrump at every level of government b/c the liberal fascists Dems are playing for keeps & many Repub leaders are a bunch of wimps!”

There’s a very high cost to our politics for celebrating the Trump style, but what is most personally painful to me as a person of the Christian faith is the cost to the Christian witness. Nonchalantly jettisoning the ethic of Jesus in favor of a political leader who embraces the ethic of Thrasymachus and Nietzsche—might makes right, the strong should rule over the weak, justice has no intrinsic worth, moral values are socially constructed and subjective—is troubling enough.

But there is also the undeniable hypocrisy of people who once made moral character, and especially sexual fidelity, central to their political calculus and who are now embracing a man of boundless corruptions. Don’t forget: Trump was essentially named an unindicted co-conspirator (“Individual 1”) in a scheme to make hush-money payments to a porn star who alleged she’d had an affair with him while he was married to his third wife, who had just given birth to their son.

1. Your claims of "might makes right" and such, is made up garbage. It is dismissed and you are ridiculed.


2. The sexual infidelity is a valid point. But it was vote for someone who was wiling to work with the Christians, ie Trump, or someone who would be actively hostile to them, ie Hillary.

the so called 'christians' that voted for trump & the 'party of family values' were all in for 3 specific reasons.

1) to overturn roe v wade
2) tax cuts
3) all things israel.

everything else didn't matter--- including christ's teachings. my sister is one of them thar hallelujah raise the hands to the sky - praise jesus till the cows come home.... except when it comes to paying higher taxes to help their fellow brethren, even after their wanting forced births & the cord is cut....but especially if they are brown brothers & sisters, or a brown bebé.

' hate your next door neighbor, but don't ferget to say grace '

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump told people working in the government that if they get arrested for building the wall then he’ll pardon them

Yeah that’s about as fake as buying Greenland and nuking hurricanes.
But don’t worry about the nuking hurricanes. Because you don’t have to worry about the radiation. The wind will blow it all away.

Besides, Trump already said if you attacked somebody he’ll pay your court costs and your legal fees.

/—-/ Fake News, the President never said he would pardon law breakers.

 

[sparky]

Fascism always requires a target for a target audience

~S~

 

[Cellblock2429]

Like what? Be specific, what was dishonest in what I said? No bull shit allowed... spell it out.

You claim that Trump supporters are being "tested by God".


That is a lie. You are an atheist, you dont' believe in God.


If you did, it would be some agnostic free form shit, that you would not expect to do personal "tests" for people.


That spelled out clear enough for you?

It's only the Christian Trump supporters that are being tested by God. God gave them an F.

how does a devout Christian support Trump? He's the antithesis of everything Christ stood for.

The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University, one of the largest Christian universities in the world, put it this way: “Conservatives & Christians need to stop electing ‘nice guys.’ They might make great Christian leaders but the United States needs street fighters like @realDonaldTrump at every level of government b/c the liberal fascists Dems are playing for keeps & many Repub leaders are a bunch of wimps!”

There’s a very high cost to our politics for celebrating the Trump style, but what is most personally painful to me as a person of the Christian faith is the cost to the Christian witness. Nonchalantly jettisoning the ethic of Jesus in favor of a political leader who embraces the ethic of Thrasymachus and Nietzsche—might makes right, the strong should rule over the weak, justice has no intrinsic worth, moral values are socially constructed and subjective—is troubling enough.

But there is also the undeniable hypocrisy of people who once made moral character, and especially sexual fidelity, central to their political calculus and who are now embracing a man of boundless corruptions. Don’t forget: Trump was essentially named an unindicted co-conspirator (“Individual 1”) in a scheme to make hush-money payments to a porn star who alleged she’d had an affair with him while he was married to his third wife, who had just given birth to their son.

1. Your claims of "might makes right" and such, is made up garbage. It is dismissed and you are ridiculed.


2. The sexual infidelity is a valid point. But it was vote for someone who was wiling to work with the Christians, ie Trump, or someone who would be actively hostile to them, ie Hillary.

the so called 'christians' that voted for trump & the 'party of family values' were all in for 3 specific reasons.

1) to overturn roe v wade
2) tax cuts
3) all things israel.

everything else didn't matter--- including christ's teachings. my sister is one of them thar hallelujah raise the hands to the sky - praise jesus till the cows come home.... except when it comes to paying higher taxes to help their fellow brethren, even after their wanting forced births & the cord is cut....but especially if they are brown brothers & sisters, or a brown bebé.

' hate your next door neighbor, but don't ferget to say grace '

/——/ It’s not our responsibility and the Gubmint has proven it’s incapable of managing money efficiently, besides democRATs will squander any additional tax revenue. What doesn’t Mexico give them medical care?

 

[playtime]

Trump told people working in the government that if they get arrested for building the wall then he’ll pardon them

Yeah that’s about as fake as buying Greenland and nuking hurricanes.
But don’t worry about the nuking hurricanes. Because you don’t have to worry about the radiation. The wind will blow it all away.

Besides, Trump already said if you attacked somebody he’ll pay your court costs and your legal fees.

/—-/ Fake News, the President never said he would pardon law breakers.

how would you know? he also said it was fake news when asked if he was reportedly quoted ( by sources in the room ) as saying:

& it turned out to be completely & factually true.

 

[playtime]

You claim that Trump supporters are being "tested by God".


That is a lie. You are an atheist, you dont' believe in God.


If you did, it would be some agnostic free form shit, that you would not expect to do personal "tests" for people.


That spelled out clear enough for you?

It's only the Christian Trump supporters that are being tested by God. God gave them an F.

how does a devout Christian support Trump? He's the antithesis of everything Christ stood for.

The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University, one of the largest Christian universities in the world, put it this way: “Conservatives & Christians need to stop electing ‘nice guys.’ They might make great Christian leaders but the United States needs street fighters like @realDonaldTrump at every level of government b/c the liberal fascists Dems are playing for keeps & many Repub leaders are a bunch of wimps!”

There’s a very high cost to our politics for celebrating the Trump style, but what is most personally painful to me as a person of the Christian faith is the cost to the Christian witness. Nonchalantly jettisoning the ethic of Jesus in favor of a political leader who embraces the ethic of Thrasymachus and Nietzsche—might makes right, the strong should rule over the weak, justice has no intrinsic worth, moral values are socially constructed and subjective—is troubling enough.

But there is also the undeniable hypocrisy of people who once made moral character, and especially sexual fidelity, central to their political calculus and who are now embracing a man of boundless corruptions. Don’t forget: Trump was essentially named an unindicted co-conspirator (“Individual 1”) in a scheme to make hush-money payments to a porn star who alleged she’d had an affair with him while he was married to his third wife, who had just given birth to their son.

1. Your claims of "might makes right" and such, is made up garbage. It is dismissed and you are ridiculed.


2. The sexual infidelity is a valid point. But it was vote for someone who was wiling to work with the Christians, ie Trump, or someone who would be actively hostile to them, ie Hillary.

the so called 'christians' that voted for trump & the 'party of family values' were all in for 3 specific reasons.

1) to overturn roe v wade
2) tax cuts
3) all things israel.

everything else didn't matter--- including christ's teachings. my sister is one of them thar hallelujah raise the hands to the sky - praise jesus till the cows come home.... except when it comes to paying higher taxes to help their fellow brethren, even after their wanting forced births & the cord is cut....but especially if they are brown brothers & sisters, or a brown bebé.

' hate your next door neighbor, but don't ferget to say grace '

/——/ It’s not our responsibility and the Gubmint has proven it’s incapable of managing money efficiently, besides democRATs will squander any additional tax revenue. What doesn’t Mexico give them medical care?

mmmmm.... you mean like that trillion dollar giveaway that (R)s gave to their uber rich 1%? cutting 880 billion to medicare & medicaid to pay for it? that the huuuuuge tax savings given to big corp & they gave a measley 70 million to their worker bees in the form of one time bonus' whilst keeping 720 million for stock buy backs & then raising premiums on health insurance that wiped them bonus' out? or the temporary raised pittance you see in yer paycheck will be negated with all the tariffs imposed & donny lies that the chinese are paying but it's really us?

................ that's a good one.

 

[Cellblock2429]

It's only the Christian Trump supporters that are being tested by God. God gave them an F.

how does a devout Christian support Trump? He's the antithesis of everything Christ stood for.

The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University, one of the largest Christian universities in the world, put it this way: “Conservatives & Christians need to stop electing ‘nice guys.’ They might make great Christian leaders but the United States needs street fighters like @realDonaldTrump at every level of government b/c the liberal fascists Dems are playing for keeps & many Repub leaders are a bunch of wimps!”

There’s a very high cost to our politics for celebrating the Trump style, but what is most personally painful to me as a person of the Christian faith is the cost to the Christian witness. Nonchalantly jettisoning the ethic of Jesus in favor of a political leader who embraces the ethic of Thrasymachus and Nietzsche—might makes right, the strong should rule over the weak, justice has no intrinsic worth, moral values are socially constructed and subjective—is troubling enough.

But there is also the undeniable hypocrisy of people who once made moral character, and especially sexual fidelity, central to their political calculus and who are now embracing a man of boundless corruptions. Don’t forget: Trump was essentially named an unindicted co-conspirator (“Individual 1”) in a scheme to make hush-money payments to a porn star who alleged she’d had an affair with him while he was married to his third wife, who had just given birth to their son.

1. Your claims of "might makes right" and such, is made up garbage. It is dismissed and you are ridiculed.


2. The sexual infidelity is a valid point. But it was vote for someone who was wiling to work with the Christians, ie Trump, or someone who would be actively hostile to them, ie Hillary.

the so called 'christians' that voted for trump & the 'party of family values' were all in for 3 specific reasons.

1) to overturn roe v wade
2) tax cuts
3) all things israel.

everything else didn't matter--- including christ's teachings. my sister is one of them thar hallelujah raise the hands to the sky - praise jesus till the cows come home.... except when it comes to paying higher taxes to help their fellow brethren, even after their wanting forced births & the cord is cut....but especially if they are brown brothers & sisters, or a brown bebé.

' hate your next door neighbor, but don't ferget to say grace '

/——/ It’s not our responsibility and the Gubmint has proven it’s incapable of managing money efficiently, besides democRATs will squander any additional tax revenue. What doesn’t Mexico give them medical care?

mmmmm.... you mean like that trillion dollar giveaway that (R)s gave to their uber rich 1%? cutting 880 billion to medicare & medicaid to pay for it? that the huuuuuge tax savings given to big corp & they gave a measley 70 million to their worker bees in the form of one time bonus' whilst keeping 720 million for stock buy backs & then raising premiums on health insurance that wiped them bonus' out? or the temporary raised pittance you see in yer paycheck will be negated with all the tariffs imposed & donny lies that the chinese are paying but it's really us?

................ that's a good one.

/—-/ What’s Funny is your stupidity. Letting people keep more of their own money is not a give away. Welfare is. And the worker bees got a tax cut too.

 

[Correll]

Everything about what Care did, was dishonest.

Like what? Be specific, what was dishonest in what I said? No bull shit allowed... spell it out.

You claim that Trump supporters are being "tested by God".


That is a lie. You are an atheist, you dont' believe in God.


If you did, it would be some agnostic free form shit, that you would not expect to do personal "tests" for people.


That spelled out clear enough for you?

It's only the Christian Trump supporters that are being tested by God. God gave them an F.

how does a devout Christian support Trump? He's the antithesis of everything Christ stood for.

Why are you asking? There have been plenty of threads started on this very site, with OP that link to articles with Christians explain how and why.


Boils down to voting for someone (Trump) who is willing to work with them, vs voting for someone (Hillary) who is actively hostile to them.


It is not really credible for you to be confused by this.

But they sold their souls to the devil in the process.

No, they didn't. Trump is a flawed candidate, not the freaking DEVIL.


In YOUR mind, politically supporting a politician, might mean that you are celebrating all of his life's choices, but that is the way YOU do things, not anyone else.

It is bizarre and unfair and unreasonable of you to attack the Faith of people you don't like, because of their political support of a candidate you hate.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump told people working in the government that if they get arrested for building the wall then he’ll pardon them

Yeah that’s about as fake as buying Greenland and nuking hurricanes.
But don’t worry about the nuking hurricanes. Because you don’t have to worry about the radiation. The wind will blow it all away.

Besides, Trump already said if you attacked somebody he’ll pay your court costs and your legal fees.

/—-/ Fake News, the President never said he would pardon law breakers.

how would you know? he also said it was fake news when asked if he was reportedly quoted ( by sources in the room ) as saying:

& it turned out to be completely & factually true.

/—-/ If a fake investigation was launched on you by a special prosecutor you’d be fucked too- even if you were 100% innocent.

 

[playtime]

The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University, one of the largest Christian universities in the world, put it this way: “Conservatives & Christians need to stop electing ‘nice guys.’ They might make great Christian leaders but the United States needs street fighters like @realDonaldTrump at every level of government b/c the liberal fascists Dems are playing for keeps & many Repub leaders are a bunch of wimps!”

There’s a very high cost to our politics for celebrating the Trump style, but what is most personally painful to me as a person of the Christian faith is the cost to the Christian witness. Nonchalantly jettisoning the ethic of Jesus in favor of a political leader who embraces the ethic of Thrasymachus and Nietzsche—might makes right, the strong should rule over the weak, justice has no intrinsic worth, moral values are socially constructed and subjective—is troubling enough.

But there is also the undeniable hypocrisy of people who once made moral character, and especially sexual fidelity, central to their political calculus and who are now embracing a man of boundless corruptions. Don’t forget: Trump was essentially named an unindicted co-conspirator (“Individual 1”) in a scheme to make hush-money payments to a porn star who alleged she’d had an affair with him while he was married to his third wife, who had just given birth to their son.

1. Your claims of "might makes right" and such, is made up garbage. It is dismissed and you are ridiculed.


2. The sexual infidelity is a valid point. But it was vote for someone who was wiling to work with the Christians, ie Trump, or someone who would be actively hostile to them, ie Hillary.

the so called 'christians' that voted for trump & the 'party of family values' were all in for 3 specific reasons.

1) to overturn roe v wade
2) tax cuts
3) all things israel.

everything else didn't matter--- including christ's teachings. my sister is one of them thar hallelujah raise the hands to the sky - praise jesus till the cows come home.... except when it comes to paying higher taxes to help their fellow brethren, even after their wanting forced births & the cord is cut....but especially if they are brown brothers & sisters, or a brown bebé.

' hate your next door neighbor, but don't ferget to say grace '

/——/ It’s not our responsibility and the Gubmint has proven it’s incapable of managing money efficiently, besides democRATs will squander any additional tax revenue. What doesn’t Mexico give them medical care?

mmmmm.... you mean like that trillion dollar giveaway that (R)s gave to their uber rich 1%? cutting 880 billion to medicare & medicaid to pay for it? that the huuuuuge tax savings given to big corp & they gave a measley 70 million to their worker bees in the form of one time bonus' whilst keeping 720 million for stock buy backs & then raising premiums on health insurance that wiped them bonus' out? or the temporary raised pittance you see in yer paycheck will be negated with all the tariffs imposed & donny lies that the chinese are paying but it's really us?

................ that's a good one.

/—-/ What’s Funny is your stupidity. Letting people keep more of their own money is not a give away. Welfare is. And the worker bees got a tax cut too.

<pfffft> they put 'your' money in one hand, & took it ( plus more ) back with their other hand. what you got in yer paycheck is being eaten up with the increase in premiums, food, & all the little cheap chinese gadgets america loves.................... btw - that there tax cuts for big corp?

they are permanent. but worker bee tax cuts? temp-or-ar-y.

 

[Correll]

Like what? Be specific, what was dishonest in what I said? No bull shit allowed... spell it out.

You claim that Trump supporters are being "tested by God".


That is a lie. You are an atheist, you dont' believe in God.


If you did, it would be some agnostic free form shit, that you would not expect to do personal "tests" for people.


That spelled out clear enough for you?

It's only the Christian Trump supporters that are being tested by God. God gave them an F.

how does a devout Christian support Trump? He's the antithesis of everything Christ stood for.

The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University, one of the largest Christian universities in the world, put it this way: “Conservatives & Christians need to stop electing ‘nice guys.’ They might make great Christian leaders but the United States needs street fighters like @realDonaldTrump at every level of government b/c the liberal fascists Dems are playing for keeps & many Repub leaders are a bunch of wimps!”

There’s a very high cost to our politics for celebrating the Trump style, but what is most personally painful to me as a person of the Christian faith is the cost to the Christian witness. Nonchalantly jettisoning the ethic of Jesus in favor of a political leader who embraces the ethic of Thrasymachus and Nietzsche—might makes right, the strong should rule over the weak, justice has no intrinsic worth, moral values are socially constructed and subjective—is troubling enough.

But there is also the undeniable hypocrisy of people who once made moral character, and especially sexual fidelity, central to their political calculus and who are now embracing a man of boundless corruptions. Don’t forget: Trump was essentially named an unindicted co-conspirator (“Individual 1”) in a scheme to make hush-money payments to a porn star who alleged she’d had an affair with him while he was married to his third wife, who had just given birth to their son.

1. Your claims of "might makes right" and such, is made up garbage. It is dismissed and you are ridiculed.


2. The sexual infidelity is a valid point. But it was vote for someone who was wiling to work with the Christians, ie Trump, or someone who would be actively hostile to them, ie Hillary.

the so called 'christians' that voted for trump & the 'party of family values' were all in for 3 specific reasons.

1) to overturn roe v wade
2) tax cuts
3) all things israel.

everything else didn't matter--- including christ's teachings. my sister is one of them thar hallelujah raise the hands to the sky - praise jesus till the cows come home.... except when it comes to paying higher taxes to help their fellow brethren, even after their wanting forced births & the cord is cut....but especially if they are brown brothers & sisters, or a brown bebé.

' hate your next door neighbor, but don't ferget to say grace '

There are millions of individual Christians who each considered hundreds of factors before deciding to support Trump for the presidency.

THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE DOES EVERY ELECTION.

Stripped on your spin and bigotry, Abortion, Taxes, and support for Israel are all valid political issues to consider before deciding which candidate to vote for. Your conclusion they are primary is irrelevant.


That you are angry that they did, what EVERYONE DOES, when deciding to choose between two flawed candidates,


proves that YOU are the bigot here, not them.

 

[SweetTea]

1. Your claims of "might makes right" and such, is made up garbage. It is dismissed and you are ridiculed.


2. The sexual infidelity is a valid point. But it was vote for someone who was wiling to work with the Christians, ie Trump, or someone who would be actively hostile to them, ie Hillary.

the so called 'christians' that voted for trump & the 'party of family values' were all in for 3 specific reasons.

1) to overturn roe v wade
2) tax cuts
3) all things israel.

everything else didn't matter--- including christ's teachings. my sister is one of them thar hallelujah raise the hands to the sky - praise jesus till the cows come home.... except when it comes to paying higher taxes to help their fellow brethren, even after their wanting forced births & the cord is cut....but especially if they are brown brothers & sisters, or a brown bebé.

' hate your next door neighbor, but don't ferget to say grace '

/——/ It’s not our responsibility and the Gubmint has proven it’s incapable of managing money efficiently, besides democRATs will squander any additional tax revenue. What doesn’t Mexico give them medical care?

mmmmm.... you mean like that trillion dollar giveaway that (R)s gave to their uber rich 1%? cutting 880 billion to medicare & medicaid to pay for it? that the huuuuuge tax savings given to big corp & they gave a measley 70 million to their worker bees in the form of one time bonus' whilst keeping 720 million for stock buy backs & then raising premiums on health insurance that wiped them bonus' out? or the temporary raised pittance you see in yer paycheck will be negated with all the tariffs imposed & donny lies that the chinese are paying but it's really us?

................ that's a good one.

/—-/ What’s Funny is your stupidity. Letting people keep more of their own money is not a give away. Welfare is. And the worker bees got a tax cut too.

<pfffft> they put 'your' money in one hand, & took it ( plus more ) back with their other hand. what you got in yer paycheck is being eaten up with the increase in premiums, food, & all the little cheap chinese gadgets america loves.................... btw - that there tax cuts for big corp?

they are permanent. but worker bee tax cuts? temp-or-ar-y.

Americans aren't feeling the tarriffs. Consumer confidence numbers say otherwise. We are taxing a very small percentange of our overall imports. We will WIN the trade war with China if Trump gets re-elected and our country will prosper even more. If a Democrat Socialists wins and rolls over like a good puppy to China(which they will), hold on to your wallet. Rich and poor will all suffer in kind.

 

[playtime]

You claim that Trump supporters are being "tested by God".


That is a lie. You are an atheist, you dont' believe in God.


If you did, it would be some agnostic free form shit, that you would not expect to do personal "tests" for people.


That spelled out clear enough for you?

It's only the Christian Trump supporters that are being tested by God. God gave them an F.

how does a devout Christian support Trump? He's the antithesis of everything Christ stood for.

The Deepening Crisis in Evangelical Christianity

Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University, one of the largest Christian universities in the world, put it this way: “Conservatives & Christians need to stop electing ‘nice guys.’ They might make great Christian leaders but the United States needs street fighters like @realDonaldTrump at every level of government b/c the liberal fascists Dems are playing for keeps & many Repub leaders are a bunch of wimps!”

There’s a very high cost to our politics for celebrating the Trump style, but what is most personally painful to me as a person of the Christian faith is the cost to the Christian witness. Nonchalantly jettisoning the ethic of Jesus in favor of a political leader who embraces the ethic of Thrasymachus and Nietzsche—might makes right, the strong should rule over the weak, justice has no intrinsic worth, moral values are socially constructed and subjective—is troubling enough.

But there is also the undeniable hypocrisy of people who once made moral character, and especially sexual fidelity, central to their political calculus and who are now embracing a man of boundless corruptions. Don’t forget: Trump was essentially named an unindicted co-conspirator (“Individual 1”) in a scheme to make hush-money payments to a porn star who alleged she’d had an affair with him while he was married to his third wife, who had just given birth to their son.

1. Your claims of "might makes right" and such, is made up garbage. It is dismissed and you are ridiculed.


2. The sexual infidelity is a valid point. But it was vote for someone who was wiling to work with the Christians, ie Trump, or someone who would be actively hostile to them, ie Hillary.

the so called 'christians' that voted for trump & the 'party of family values' were all in for 3 specific reasons.

1) to overturn roe v wade
2) tax cuts
3) all things israel.

everything else didn't matter--- including christ's teachings. my sister is one of them thar hallelujah raise the hands to the sky - praise jesus till the cows come home.... except when it comes to paying higher taxes to help their fellow brethren, even after their wanting forced births & the cord is cut....but especially if they are brown brothers & sisters, or a brown bebé.

' hate your next door neighbor, but don't ferget to say grace '

There are millions of individual Christians who each considered hundreds of factors before deciding to support Trump for the presidency.

THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE DOES EVERY ELECTION.

Stripped on your spin and bigotry, Abortion, Taxes, and support for Israel are all valid political issues to consider before deciding which candidate to vote for. Your conclusion they are primary is irrelevant.


That you are angry that they did, what EVERYONE DOES, when deciding to choose between two flawed candidates,


proves that YOU are the bigot here, not them.

^^^ ^^^ ....

 

[Care4all]

I think you Trumpsters are being tested by God, how far will you go, denying Him, and what He taught, in your support, for the lawless one, the man of perdition, your new messiah..... in layman's English... Donald Trump.

Said the lying atheist.

But you aren't an atheist, right? You've read the bible cover to cover, yes? (I tried once,,,got about halfway through but found it too violent...all that "fear the lord" stuff seemed creepy)

What did Jesus say about accepting strangers, offering hospitality and loving your neighbor? Does this policy jive with those ideals?

Jesus promoted doing what our private charities do. Jesus never preached for government to take money away from people to provide the charity.

Christ NEVER said not to either...

Tithing Was taxes, Israel was a theocracy and ruled by the Jewish religious theocrats, the Roman rule was a side note.

It was mandatory tithing. Separate taxes for different things... some tithes were to pay for the clergy, some tithes to help the sick, some tithing to feed the hungry. Etc.... it was NOT voluntary personal giving when you simply felt like being generous or not...

This was what a Pharisee was complaining about when he challenged Jesus on why they should have to pay taxes to Caesar, when they were already taxed, with tithes by their Jewish Government...

Which Jesus told him to give unto Caesar what is his, and give unto God, what is God's

The Pharisee wanted to go to war or cause an uprising against the Roman gvt because they were being double taxed.

Jesus, shut him down.

So what exactly are you talking about?

What I'm talking about is very clear. Helping your fellow man is what Jesus taught, but he did not teach government taking from people what they didn't want to give to help their fellow man. What the government did was their own doing, not that of Jesus.

As it relates to today, just because Jesus didn't try to stop government from taking of the people doesn't mean he approved of it. The bottom line is that it's ridiculous for the left to bring up God or Jesus in this topic because government helping foreigners had nothing to do with his teachings, which was giving from your heart, not your government.

Charity is giving--not taking.

Have We Gotten 'Render Unto Caesar What Is Caesar's' All Wrong? | RELEVANT Magazine

Excellent article, thank you!

But, I am not certain you understood the entire message in it?