So, is the left denouncing Obama's "unlawful" war in Libya?

[NYcarbineer]

When will Biden start pushing for impeachment?

Don't you support the action in Libya??

 

[NYcarbineer]

Until i see those "NO WAR FOR OIL!" "IMPEACH OBOMBA!" Protests,i will never give Leftists/Democrats any credibility on issues like this ever again. I'll stay tuned.

I think you've slightly overestimated the amount of concern liberals have over your approval/disapproval.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I think you've slightly overestimated the amount of concern liberals have over your approval/disapproval.

AND underestimated the rank and reeking hypocrisy that is part and parcel of the leftists.

 

[M14 Shooter]

When will Biden start pushing for impeachment?

Don't you support the action in Libya??

Irrelevant to the issue - but then, you knew that.

The Obama openly stated that He does not have the power to do what He is doing. I am sure that when He said it, you swooned in agreement.

Biden said he would lead the charge to impeach a President that does what The Obama is doing. I am sure that when he said that, you swooned in agreement.

Whiy aren't you (and Biden) clamoring for The Obama's head on a pike?

 

[sinister59]

we have lot of stupid people in this country ,

We sure do, and they all voted for Obama.

Remember, the lower the IQ, the further to the left.

really ? you liked bush then ? now who's stupid ? no ? you like palin ? really ?

 

[Uncensored2008]

really ? you liked bush then ?

That is called a "false dichotomy." It's a logical fallacy.

I said nothing of "liking Bush." (Proper nouns should be capitalizes, your seething hatred has no bearing.)

You never answered earlier, did you make it to high school? I'm not asking if you graduated, we all know the answer to that. But did you get into high school?

 

[M14 Shooter]

You never answered earlier, did you make it to high school? I'm not asking if you graduated, we all know the answer to that. But did you get into high school?

Now THAT'S funny.

 

[sinister59]

When will Biden start pushing for impeachment?

thats all you clowns can think impeachment

 

[M14 Shooter]

When will Biden start pushing for impeachment?

thats all you clowns can think impeachment

The only person discussing impeachment is Biden.
Why aren't you supporting him?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I think you've slightly overestimated the amount of concern liberals have over your approval/disapproval.

AND underestimated the rank and reeking hypocrisy that is part and parcel of the leftists.

What hypocrisy are you accusing me of?

 

[NYcarbineer]

really ? you liked bush then ?

That is called a "false dichotomy." It's a logical fallacy.

I said nothing of "liking Bush." (Proper nouns should be capitalizes, your seething hatred has no bearing.)

You never answered earlier, did you make it to high school? I'm not asking if you graduated, we all know the answer to that. But did you get into high school?

Do you know how to use a semi-colon? No, you don't.

 

[KissMy]

Talk about hypocrites

Democrats: 66% approve of Obama's handling of Libya in the CBS poll, while 73% approve in the CNN poll. The CNN poll shows slightly lower approval among self-described liberals--68%--but nothing close to a clear rejection.

Independents: 43% approve of Obama's handling of Libya in the CBS poll, while 44% approve of Obama's handling in the CNN poll. This is almost identical to the 45% of independents who generally approve of the way Obama is handling his job as president in the CNN poll.

Republicans: In the CBS poll 43% approve of how Obama is handling the situation in Libya, while 27% approve in the CNN poll. Interestingly, 35% of self-described conservatives approve of Obama's handling of Libya, eight points higher than Republicans generally.

 

[The T]

When will Biden start pushing for impeachment?

thats all you clowns can think impeachment

The only person discussing impeachment is Biden.
Why aren't you supporting him?

Because he probably supports Plugs Biden, and is perplexed by it.

 

[The T]

Until i see those "NO WAR FOR OIL!" "IMPEACH OBOMBA!" Protests,i will never give Leftists/Democrats any credibility on issues like this ever again. I'll stay tuned.

I think you've slightly overestimated the amount of concern liberals have over your approval/disapproval.

Speak for yourself dumbass.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What hypocrisy are you accusing me of?

Reeking hypocrisy. War with Iraq bad - R after name. War with Libya good - D after name.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Do you know how to use a semi-colon? No, you don't.

Quite well, thank you.

 

[georgephillip]

America is the chief facilitator and benefactor of global capitalism. The military's job is to stabilize global markets on behalf of the transnationals that own government.

What do I mean by stabilize?

Walmart and Exxon make their money on products and labor that come from dangerous places. If these places become unstable - as they so often do - money is lost, economies are ruined. Put simply, America cannot afford for (say) the Straight of Hormuz to be shut down by terrorists. Therefore, we require a massive military umbrella - an empire of bases - to counter political instability.

AGAIN: Everything from Walmart to American clothing brands depend on ultra cheap resources & labor. Cheap labor increases the profits of shareholders, which is the point of capitalism. I'm talking about labor so cheap that it could only be maintained in places that lack human rights and essential human freedoms. How do you repress whole populations? How do you create the conditions for ultra cheap labor? You support a network of ruthless dictators, from Pinochet to the Shaw to Hussein and Gaddafi: all supported by the US Government until they became unmanageable. That's the problem with ruthless dictators. They're good at repressing their populations so US interests can usurp their resources, but those same useful dictators can sometimes go too far - Hussein and Gadaffi being the most recent examples).

Do talk radio republicans know how much money & weapons the US Government -- under both parties -- has given to Libya? Do they know how much support Reagan/HWB gave to Hussein in the 80s when he was gassing his own people? Do they know why Reagan and Bush 41 poured so much money and weapons into Iraq, or Iran? Do they know why Reagan removed Hussein's Iraq from the official list of terrorist nations? Do they know how deeply the American lifestyle is maintained by labor and resources that come from "bad" places, requiring arrangements with bad people? Do they understand that the American Dream is built from Chinese credit & terrorist crude? Do they understand that America's largest retailer could not function without the spectacular contribution of Chinese tyrants? Do they understand that talk of "freedom" and "free markets" is a sick joke?

Answer: no. Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh never talk about how Washington manages the global system. They don't explain that because the oil comes from a bad place, sometimes we have to get in bed with bad people. They just speak in cliches about how "Freedom is on the march". They don't even know how much oil is produced in Libya, or the other vital resources we get from Northern Africa. This makes talk radio and FOX news a dangerous farce, because they are raising a generation of truly ignorant morons who simply don't understand how the capitalist engine gets fed. [America has always protected the women, children, and republicans from learning about the evil that men must do in the outlying colonies]

The OP misses something fundamental. He thinks that the occupant of the White House has influence over the current system of military globalization - which is run on behalf of the corporate elite who fund elections and own both parties. Obama and Bush are mere reflexes.

Is Obama a hypocrite? Yes, by definition, because he is a politician. Democrats who oppose war are like Republicans who oppose spending: they are lying to get elected, so that they can get hold of the Big ATM and hand out money to the corporations who put them in office.

"Operation Libya" is part of a five year, 7 country "Just War" heist that Wesley Clark mentions in his book Winning Modern Wars.

"'in the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said.

"But there was more.

"This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan.... (Wesley Clark, Winning Modern Wars, p. 130)."

The broad strokes include gaining control and corporate ownership of more than 60% of the world's reserves of oil and natural gas, including oil and gas pipelines.

And it doesn't depend on which party controls the White House or the Congress. Corporations acting through Wall Street set the agenda, and Republicans AND Democrats and the Pentagon bow and scrape before those who fund their campaigns...and retirements.

Interesting conspiracy theory. Gain a controlling share of the oil industry through war.

Of those seven countries that Wesley Clark mentions, Libya, Sudan and, to a lesser degree, Iraq all appear to be following the Yugoslavia model:

"In Yugoslavia, US-NATO forces triggered a civil war.

"The objective was to create political and ethnic divisions, which eventually led to the break up of an entire country.

"This objective was achieved through the covert funding and training of armed paramilitary armies, first in Bosnia (Bosnian Muslim Army, 1991-95) and subsequently in Kosovo (Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), 1998-1999).

"In both Kosovo and Bosnia, media disinformation (including outright lies and fabrications) were used to support US-EU claims that the Belgrade government had committed atrocities, thereby justifying a military intervention on humanitarian grounds."

Insurrection and Military...

That's not to say Belgrade, Khartoum and Gaddafi never committed any atrocities, it's simply providing additional context into why some of their crimes took place.

If western corporations acting through the governments they own eventually control 60% of the oil and natural gas in the Middle East and North Africa, it won't happen without conspiracies.

Or war and debt for 90% of humanity.

 

[Trajan]

ell have no fear, nato is taking over....

NATO to take over no-fly zone - TheHill.com

so, how do the special forces teams we have on the ground there fit in?

 

[NYcarbineer]

What hypocrisy are you accusing me of?

Reeking hypocrisy. War with Iraq bad - R after name. War with Libya good - D after name.

I put a line in my sig a few days ago just for people like you.

 

[M14 Shooter]

really ? you liked bush then ?

That is called a "false dichotomy." It's a logical fallacy.

I said nothing of "liking Bush." (Proper nouns should be capitalizes, your seething hatred has no bearing.)

You never answered earlier, did you make it to high school? I'm not asking if you graduated, we all know the answer to that. But did you get into high school?

Do you know how to use a semi-colon? No, you don't.

Do you know how to address an issue, rather than very un-cleverly avoiding it, offering red herrings, leaping to unsupportable conclusions and pointing out meaningless spelling/punctuation errors?

No, you don't.