So in spite of the promise not to cut SS benefits

[Marener]

Hearing Wrap Up: DOGE Subcommittee’s First Hearing Uncovers Billions Lost to Fraud and Improper Payments, Launches “War on Waste" - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability

oversight.house.gov

• According to the Social Security Administration, all improper payments, including payments to the deceased and the very old, are estimated at about $3 billion per year.

• Total Social Security benefits in 2016 will exceed $900 billion, so eliminating $3 billion per year of improper payments would reduce costs by at most 0.4 percent, extending the program’s solvency by about 3 months.

Fact Sheet: How much waste, fraud, and abuse is there in Social Security? | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

• The Social Security Trustees estimate that reducing benefits to restore solvency would require an immediate 16.4 percent benefit cut – the equivalent of reducing benefits this year by

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[Rambunctious]

It's wrong and immoral to want people to work longer. What's the point in that?

People are just doing it... why stay home if you can still work?... not everyone wants to stop working... I'm retired but I work at the high school coaching the golf team... and I repair golf carts for the club... and I do all repairs at an apartment building I own... in fact I replaced two toilets today...

 

[Rambunctious]

According to the Social Security Administration

Of course they said that.... let DOGE look... do you want the SS program to go belly up?....

 

[Marener]

Of course they said that.... let DOGE look... do you want the SS program to go belly up?....

They know better than the clueless DOGE losers.

Some dope in front of the committee claimed the fraud rate was 20%. That’s idiotic.

 

[initforme]

What options would you suggest in order to prevent the program from automatic massive cuts, eventually?

Increased payroll deductions.

 

[Rambunctious]

They know better than the clueless DOGE losers.

Some dope in front of the committee claimed the fraud rate was 20%. That’s idiotic.

Then let us look.... if wolves were in charge of your chicken coop and a bunch of chickens went missing would you believe the wolves who say its only three chickens.... come on man...

 

[Marener]

Then let us look.... if wolves were in charge of your chicken coop and a bunch of chickens went missing would you believe the wolves who say its only three chickens.... come on man...

Huh? That doesn’t make any sense. In your analogy, the wolves have incentive to eat the chickens. Are you claiming social security administrators are secretly getting rich through fraud in social security?

 

[CrazyTrader55]

Increased payroll deductions.

Who? How much?

The program needs tax increases and some benefit cuts.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Increased payroll deductions.

From people working longer.

 

[Crepitus]

What options would you suggest in order to prevent the program from automatic massive cuts, eventually?

A, Stop raiding it.

B. remove the billionaire cap.

 

[Rambunctious]

Huh? That doesn’t make any sense. In your analogy, the wolves have incentive to eat the chickens. Are you claiming social security administrators are secretly getting rich through fraud in social security?

Someone is... employees are not doing their jobs if millions are missing.... that's number one... number two SS is going broke so every citizen should want DOGE to look... the initial report said billions are wasted or stolen.... people over 180 years old and checks going out to no one....
when your car needs repair you first have to diagnose the issue... that's all DOGE does....

 

[Marener]

Someone is... employees are not doing their jobs if millions are missing.... that's number one... number two SS is going broke so every citizen should want DOGE to look... the initial report said billions are wasted or stolen.... people over 180 years old and checks going out to no one....
when your car needs repair you first have to diagnose the issue... that's all DOGE does....

Cutting fraud out will save social security less than a half a percent. That’s not going to have any serious impact on its solvency.

Since there’s no incentive for the social security administrators to falsify the report on fraud, then the only reason you deny it is because it doesn’t fit your agenda.

DOGE is full of a bunch of clueless dopes, especially Musk, who don’t know what they’re doing.

 

[Rambunctious]

Cutting fraud out will save social security less than a half a percent.

That's just not true.... by the way 76% of Americans approve of Trump cutting waste and fraud... so if you want to die on that hill be my guest....

 

[Marener]

That's just not true.... by the way 76% of Americans approve of Trump cutting waste and fraud... so if you want to die on that hill be my guest....

Probably because they believe the steady stream of lies coming out of these dopes.

The fraud basically fictitious and no one understands what they define as waste.

 

[Rambunctious]

Probably because they believe the steady stream of lies coming out of these dopes.

No one is lying but your media... turn on FOX right now and learn something....

 

[CrazyTrader55]

A, Stop raiding it.

B. remove the billionaire cap.

STEP ONE IS FINDING OUT IF THERE IS FRAUD.

Let me re-phrase that. There is fraud. We just don't (yet) know how much.

 

[WorldWatcher]

That's just not true.... by the way 76% of Americans approve of Trump cutting waste and fraud... so if you want to die on that hill be my guest....

How many people do you believe are over 100 and receive Social Security Retirement benefits?

WW

 

[Marener]

No one is lying but your media... turn on FOX right now and learn something....

Musk is repeatedly lying about government spending. He pushed that tweet about old people in the social security database without noting that they’re not actually receiving benefits.

So people think that 180 year olds are getting SS checks. That’s disinformation straight from Musk.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

Cutting fraud out will save social security less than a half a percent. That’s not going to have any serious impact on its solvency.

Since there’s no incentive for the social security administrators to falsify the report on fraud, then the only reason you deny it is because it doesn’t fit your agenda.

DOGE is full of a bunch of clueless dopes, especially Musk, who don’t know what they’re doing.

Musk. Richest guy in the world. Paypal, Tesla, X (Twitter).

You: internet nobody.

I'll believe Musk when he says there is major fraud.

 

[Marener]

I'll believe Musk when he says there is major fraud.

Musk believes lots of crazy shit. He’s really gone off the deep end in the last few years.