So in spite of the promise not to cut SS benefits

How many people do you believe are over 100 and receive Social Security Retirement?

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The first look showed millions... so let DOGE do a deeper dive... SS is going broke folks that's a fact and has been a fact for years.... 66% of democrat voters want the democrat party to take a wait and see on Trump's policies... if they don't get that message your side loses in 26 and 28...
 
Musk is repeatedly lying about government spending. He pushed that tweet about old people in the social security database without noting that they’re not actually receiving benefits.

So people think that 180 year olds are getting SS checks. That’s disinformation straight from Musk.
Musk is not lying your media is....
 
Musk is not lying your media is....
Musk is addicted to Twitter and there’s been an enormous amount of lying when it comes to DOGE.

The social security post is just one example, which you totally ignored because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
 
Musk is addicted to Twitter and there’s been an enormous amount of lying when it comes to DOGE.

The social security post is just one example, which you totally ignored because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
Good keep attacking Musk... I want you to....
 
Good keep attacking Musk... I want you to....
I can’t help but notice you won’t address a rational critique of his disinformation.

Is that because there is no defense of it?
 

After Lying That Trump Wants to Cut Social Security, Dems Rush Bill That Will Cut Benefits – Need Biden to Sign Before Trump Arrives​

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After Lying That Trump Wants to Cut Social Security, Dems Rush Bill That Will Cut Benefits - Need Biden to Sign Before Trump Arrives

After repeatedly accusing the president-elect of wanting to cut Social Security, Democrats new bill would do just that.
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21 Dec 2024 ~~ By Samuel Short, Western Journal.

Democrats have been caught doing the very thing they’ve been accusing President-elect Donald Trump of doing: Cutting Social Security.

On Wednesday, the U.K. Daily Mail reported Senate Democrats are trying to push through a Social Security reform bill they want to see signed by President Joe Biden before Trump takes office.
The Social Security Fairness Act aims to repeal provisions that reduce payouts to public sector employees like police officers, firefighters, teachers, and post workers. The Mail cites The Committee for a Responsible Budget in their article, and that group states this would make Social Security insolvent six months earlier than current projections by giving increased benefits to 3 million people who paid into their state or local pensions that did not pay Social Security.
The CRFB also states, “As a result, we estimate a typical dual-income couple retiring in 2033 would see their benefits cut by an additional $25,000 over their lifetime.”
The think tank says if Social Security runs out of money under this bill, as much as $400,000 in benefits would be lost for the average couple. CRFB states the cost for the bill over the next decade — citing the Congressional Budget Office — would be $190 billion.
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“It speeds the bankruptcy of Social Security. Social Security is due to go bankrupt in 2034. This will speed it up by a year or so. It’s $200 billion added to a program that is already short of money,” he said, following up by commenting, “If you’re going to add to its mandate by expanding it, you should pay for it.”
Schumer tried to pose the effort on X in the most altruistic fashion last week, saying, “It would ensure Americans are not erroneously denied their well-earned social security benefits simply because they chose at some point to work in their careers in public service.”
~Snip~
In July, Democrat Rep. Hakeem Jeffries invoked to boogeyman that is Project 2025 to say Trump would be the end of Social Security.
He claimed, “Trump’s Project 2025 will end Social Security and Medicare as we know it.”
Despite looking to address excessive government spending, Trump stated earlier this month, “We’re not touching Social Security.”
Under Democrats’ bill, cuts will be made, and insolvency will be sped up.
It is unclear whether Democrats actually think this is helpful, or if they just want to create a massive disaster later — perhaps for the president-elect to “deal” with.
That all being said, there may be a far less conspiratorial explanation for this latest move from the Democrats.
Hanlon’s Razor states we, “shouldn’t attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
 
I can’t help but notice you won’t address a rational critique of his disinformation.

Is that because there is no defense of it?
Why would I defend false claims made by people with emotional problems?....
 
How many people do you believe are over 100 and receive Social Security Retirement benefits?

WW
The first look showed millions... so let DOGE do a deeper dive... SS is going broke folks that's a fact and has been a fact for years.... 66% of democrat voters want the democrat party to take a wait and see on Trump's policies... if they don't get that message your side loses in 26 and 28...

See this is why you show you are uninformed and Musk knew it and could jerk your chain. And you fell into it.

Musk's chart DID NOT show that there were millions of people over the age of 100 drawing benefits. The charge showed the number of people in the SSA retirement system with the Death Flag set to FALSE.

Death Flag set FLASE != Receiving benefits.

The 2020 Census put the number of persons at a little over 90,000.

In December 2024 the number of persons 99+ years old that drew a SS Retirement Benefit was 89,106.

As expected the number of persons over 100 is pretty damn close to the number of persons drawing SS retirement.

The SSA DID NOT pay out SS Retirement benefits to millions of people over the age of 100.

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See this is why you show you are uninformed and Musk knew it and could jerk your chain. And you fell into it.

Musk's chart DID NOT show that there were millions of people over the age of 100 drawing benefits. The charge showed the number of people in the SSA retirement system with the Death Flag set to FALSE.

Death Flag set FLASE != Receiving benefits.

The 2020 Census put the number of persons at a little over 90,000.

In December 2024 the number of persons 99+ years old that drew a SS Retirement Benefit was 89,106.

As expected the number of persons over 100 is pretty damn close to the number of persons drawing SS retirement.

The SSA DID NOT pay out SS Retirement benefits to millions of people.

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DOGE finds billions in waste and fraud... the SS administration says its not so... so you believe them... let DOGE look deeper...
 
DOGE finds billions in waste and fraud... the SS administration says its not so... so you believe them... let DOGE look deeper...

I have no problem letting people that know that they are doing take a deep look at Social Security Retirement and rooting out fraud.

Musk isn't the one to do it.

He didn't even know the differnce between what the Death Flag meant and the number of people actually drawing Social Security Retirement by age.
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Maybe if Congress had upgraded the SSA systems as requested for decades they wouldn't still be running their core system on COBOL.

With a modern system it would be very easy to begin cross checking other systems to determine or at least flag records for possible fraud. And this has nothing to do with age 100+, it could be done for anyone either (a) drawing early retirement, or (b) someone that has reached full retirement age. For example:
  • Any individual that worked the required time to qualify for SSA benefits will also automatically have Medicare Part A (Hospitalization)
  • Any individual that worked the required time to qualify for SSA benefits will also be eligible to enroll in Medicare Part B (Outpatient), A Medicare Part C (Advantage), and/or Medicare Part D (Prescription Drugs).
  • Periodically cross check SS Retirement Benefits payments to Medicare claims.
  • Anyone drawing SS Retirement benefits that exceed the Federal minimum for filing a tax return (in 2024 that was $14,600).
  • Any indidual with SS Retirement Benefits equal to $1,216.67 would have to file. The average benefit in 2024 was about $1,800.
  • Periodically require the States to report anyone that has filed with the State Department of Taxation in the last year.

As people get older they see the doctor. If you have someone getting payments and HAVE NOT had any medical attention in the preceeding tax year, that would be a good place to look. Someone drawing benefits that required Federal and State tax returns that didn't file tax returns would also be a good way to go.

Are there other financial transactions that are manadotory reporting? For example withdrawls from retirement account or pension which will automatically generate a 1099-R (Retirement Transaction) that would be sent to the IRS and the SSA could cross check those.

See when you actually take the time to think through things instead of believing a bump sticker claim by a South African immigrant you can actually get meaningful resuts.

If you choose not to think through things because you enjoy being enraged and just want to stick it to the LIBs, then you don't really find fraud and fix the problems.

But of course this is going to be TL;DR.

People committing death fraud through the SSA aren't going to be visiting the doctor as their dead grandmother.

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Oh for God's sake! The Social Security Trust Fund WILL NEVER RUN DRY!

It would be suicide for everyone in Congress.

They will delay as long as possible, and posture their little asses off, but they will get it done. DO NOT WORRY about it.
 
I have no problem letting people that know that they are doing take a deep look at Social Security Retirement and rooting out fraud.

Musk isn't the one to do it.

He didn't even know the differnce between what the Death Flag meant and the number of people actually drawing Social Security Retirement by age.
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Maybe if Congress had upgraded the SSA systems as requested for decades they wouldn't still be running their core system on COBOL.

With a modern system it would be very easy to begin cross checking other systems to determine or at least flag records for possible fraud. And this has nothing to do with age 100+, it could be done for anyone either (a) drawing early retirement, or (b) someone that has reached full retirement age. For example:
  • Any individual that worked the required time to qualify for SSA benefits will also automatically have Medicare Part A (Hospitalization)
  • Any individual that worked the required time to qualify for SSA benefits will also be eligible to enroll in Medicare Part B (Outpatient), A Medicare Part C (Advantage), and/or Medicare Part D (Prescription Drugs).
  • Periodically cross check SS Retirement Benefits payments to Medicare claims.
  • Anyone drawing SS Retirement benefits that exceed the Federal minimum for filing a tax return (in 2024 that was $14,600).
  • Any indidual with SS Retirement Benefits equal to $1,216.67 would have to file. The average benefit in 2024 was about $1,800.
  • Periodically require the States to report anyone that has filed with the State Department of Taxation in the last year.

As people get older they see the doctor. If you have someone getting payments and HAVE NOT had any medical attention in the preceeding tax year, that would be a good place to look. Someone drawing benefits that required Federal and State tax returns that didn't file tax returns would also be a good way to go.

Are there other financial transactions that are manadotory reporting? For example withdrawls from retirement account or pension which will automatically generate a 1099-R (Retirement Transaction) that would be sent to the IRS and the SSA could cross check those.

See when you actually take the time to think through things instead of believing a bump sticker claim by a South African immigrant you can actually get meaningful resuts.

If you choose not to think through things because you enjoy being enraged and just want to stick it to the LIBs, then you don't really find fraud and fix the problems.

But of course this is going to be TL;DR.

People committing death fraud through the SSA aren't going to be visiting the doctor as their dead grandmother.

WW
Musk is the perfect guy for this job... Biden had this job under Obama... Al Gore had this job under Clinton... they got zero results...
 
Musk is the perfect guy for this job... Biden had this job under Obama... Al Gore had this job under Clinton... they got zero results...

Musk didn't know the difference between Death Flag and receiving benefits.

Of course you still believe him even after being showed the number of people resceiving SS Benefits by age and the claim was "millions" (which you supported) and the facts were a little over 89,000.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Musk didn't know the difference between Death Flag and receiving benefits.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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And now he does... don't believe the media and the bureaucrats on this... that's just being stupid... do you want our deficit cut or not?...
 
If you care about SS you better get on board with DOGE... they are trying to save it by finding and cutting WASTE and FRAUD just like Obama and Biden and Clinton promised but never did.... Gore had Musk's job before Musk... he did a lousy job of it though...
One is not related to the other. Republicans are already try to fuck.over nonBoomers in favor of the wealthy
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Good job!
 
You didn't answer my question.... Not surprised....
Oil company workers lose their jobs several times during their career, it's nothing new.

Chevron Announces Job Cuts; Impact on Permian Basin ...​

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Chemical Processing
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Feb 14, 2025 — The company plans to eliminate 15% to 20% of its global workforce by the end of 2026.

Are you going to bash Chevron now?
 
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