Anybody who thinks they know for certain what happened is a clueless moron.
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The word "irrelevant" wasn't even in your post, douchebag. And doing something that every normal person does at that age is not a disqualifier. The Dim theory that college drinking means Kavanaugh isn't qualified couldn't be more idiotic or disingenuous.You're assuming she's telling the truth. That facts indicate she's lying. End of story.Maybe
But I think it was more than just a dry hump for fun
He tried to remove her clothes but she had a bathing suit on underneath and he gave up
--- which, again, demonstrates his disinterest in getting to the heart of the matter. Which is not a trait we'd want in a judge.
Obviously she'd be offended and have an imprinted memory of the sexual part and even more the suffocation part, which seems to have been the immediate threat in the moment. Being molested is one thing but being unable to breathe is rather urgent.
Considering Kavanaugh's own confirmation of how he "likes beer" and sometimes likes it to excess as well as observations by his co-beer likers I think the OP's scenario makes perfect sense. And the incident, at least the sexual part, should not be a factor in determining his suitability. But the obvious partisan positioning, the conspiracy-theory paranoia, the deliberate misstatement of facts (e.g. "they all say it didn't happen"), the evasiveness and flat refusal to answer questions and the emotional meltdown in general, comprise conduct unbefitting of a judge, regardless what the backstory is or isn't.
You're still illiterate. I just said the story is irrelevant. Go learn how to read.
Remember when I first got here and you wrote "I re-read your post and changed my response, not that I give a flying fuck"? I see you've learned nothing since those daze, certainly not how to read.
But still --- what "facts" would these be?
College drinking isn't even an issue. We were all blotto in those days.
Speak for yourself. And while you're doing that explain to the class how being "blotto" is a get-out-of-responsibility-free card.
Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.
I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.
Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.
Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.
My two cents. Yours?
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Both your claims are outright lies.What do we need to do, shut up?Bottom line: SHE ASKED FOR IT.
Wow, just wow.
Seems like we'll never get the knuckledraggers to pick up their knuckles. On behalf of males everywhere to females I apologize for those too dense to understand that they need to.
Don't apologize for us.
So basically right above we have one knuckledragger blaming the victim with "she asked for it" (in clueless all-caps no less) and calling for said victim to be "countersued",. presumably after setting somebody up to sue her first --- and a second knuckledragger who holds that a man can do anything he wants to a woman as long as he claims the status of "blotto".
That is why y'all need an apology.
In other words, you never said what you claim you said.The word "irrelevant" wasn't even in your post, douchebag. And doing something that every normal person does at that age is not a disqualifier. The Dim theory that college drinking means Kavanaugh isn't qualified couldn't be more idiotic or disingenuous.You're assuming she's telling the truth. That facts indicate she's lying. End of story.Maybe
But I think it was more than just a dry hump for fun
He tried to remove her clothes but she had a bathing suit on underneath and he gave up
--- which, again, demonstrates his disinterest in getting to the heart of the matter. Which is not a trait we'd want in a judge.
Obviously she'd be offended and have an imprinted memory of the sexual part and even more the suffocation part, which seems to have been the immediate threat in the moment. Being molested is one thing but being unable to breathe is rather urgent.
Considering Kavanaugh's own confirmation of how he "likes beer" and sometimes likes it to excess as well as observations by his co-beer likers I think the OP's scenario makes perfect sense. And the incident, at least the sexual part, should not be a factor in determining his suitability. But the obvious partisan positioning, the conspiracy-theory paranoia, the deliberate misstatement of facts (e.g. "they all say it didn't happen"), the evasiveness and flat refusal to answer questions and the emotional meltdown in general, comprise conduct unbefitting of a judge, regardless what the backstory is or isn't.
You're still illiterate. I just said the story is irrelevant. Go learn how to read.
Remember when I first got here and you wrote "I re-read your post and changed my response, not that I give a flying fuck"? I see you've learned nothing since those daze, certainly not how to read.
But still --- what "facts" would these be?
College drinking isn't even an issue. We were all blotto in those days.
Speak for yourself. And while you're doing that explain to the class how being "blotto" is a get-out-of-responsibility-free card.
Maybe you need to wait for your reading teacher to figure this out for you.
See, this is why stewing in emotional diaper-rash, in spite of the words sitting right there on the page, puts you in the hole you're in right now.
Maybe
But I think it was more than just a dry hump for fun
He tried to remove her clothes but she had a bathing suit on underneath and he gave up
--- which, again, demonstrates his disinterest in getting to the heart of the matter. Which is not a trait we'd want in a judge.
Obviously she'd be offended and have an imprinted memory of the sexual part and even more the suffocation part, which seems to have been the immediate threat in the moment. Being molested is one thing but being unable to breathe is rather urgent.
Considering Kavanaugh's own confirmation of how he "likes beer" and sometimes likes it to excess as well as observations by his co-beer likers I think the OP's scenario makes perfect sense. And the incident, at least the sexual part, should not be a factor in determining his suitability. But the obvious partisan positioning, the conspiracy-theory paranoia, the deliberate misstatement of facts (e.g. "they all say it didn't happen"), the evasiveness and flat refusal to answer questions and the emotional meltdown in general, comprise conduct unbefitting of a judge, regardless what the backstory is or isn't.
Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.
I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.
Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.
Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.
My two cents. Yours?
.
Maybe
But I think it was more than just a dry hump for fun
He tried to remove her clothes but she had a bathing suit on underneath and he gave up
--- which, again, demonstrates his disinterest in getting to the heart of the matter. Which is not a trait we'd want in a judge.
Obviously she'd be offended and have an imprinted memory of the sexual part and even more the suffocation part, which seems to have been the immediate threat in the moment. Being molested is one thing but being unable to breathe is rather urgent.
Considering Kavanaugh's own confirmation of how he "likes beer" and sometimes likes it to excess as well as observations by his co-beer likers I think the OP's scenario makes perfect sense. And the incident, at least the sexual part, should not be a factor in determining his suitability. But the obvious partisan positioning, the conspiracy-theory paranoia, the deliberate misstatement of facts (e.g. "they all say it didn't happen"), the evasiveness and flat refusal to answer questions and the emotional meltdown in general, comprise conduct unbefitting of a judge, regardless what the backstory is or isn't.
Hey...dumb shit..... 3 three witnesses that she named say it didn't happen...... her witnesses, she named say it did not happen.... she can't say where it happened, where it happened and who, if anyone, drove her home after the traumatic event...
Both your claims are outright lies.What do we need to do, shut up?Bottom line: SHE ASKED FOR IT.
Wow, just wow.
Seems like we'll never get the knuckledraggers to pick up their knuckles. On behalf of males everywhere to females I apologize for those too dense to understand that they need to.
Don't apologize for us.
So basically right above we have one knuckledragger blaming the victim with "she asked for it" (in clueless all-caps no less) and calling for said victim to be "countersued",. presumably after setting somebody up to sue her first --- and a second knuckledragger who holds that a man can do anything he wants to a woman as long as he claims the status of "blotto".
That is why y'all need an apology.
Quoting lies doesn't turn them into truth.Both your claims are outright lies.What do we need to do, shut up?Bottom line: SHE ASKED FOR IT.
Wow, just wow.
Seems like we'll never get the knuckledraggers to pick up their knuckles. On behalf of males everywhere to females I apologize for those too dense to understand that they need to.
Don't apologize for us.
So basically right above we have one knuckledragger blaming the victim with "she asked for it" (in clueless all-caps no less) and calling for said victim to be "countersued",. presumably after setting somebody up to sue her first --- and a second knuckledragger who holds that a man can do anything he wants to a woman as long as he claims the status of "blotto".
That is why y'all need an apology.
Actually they're recorded and quoted in the post history here.
Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.
I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.
Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.
Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.
My two cents. Yours?
.
Bottom line: SHE ASKED FOR IT.
Wow, just wow.
Seems like we'll never get the knuckledraggers to pick up their knuckles. On behalf of males everywhere to females I apologize for those too dense to understand that they need to.
Maybe
But I think it was more than just a dry hump for fun
He tried to remove her clothes but she had a bathing suit on underneath and he gave up
--- which, again, demonstrates his disinterest in getting to the heart of the matter. Which is not a trait we'd want in a judge.
Obviously she'd be offended and have an imprinted memory of the sexual part and even more the suffocation part, which seems to have been the immediate threat in the moment. Being molested is one thing but being unable to breathe is rather urgent.
Considering Kavanaugh's own confirmation of how he "likes beer" and sometimes likes it to excess as well as observations by his co-beer likers I think the OP's scenario makes perfect sense. And the incident, at least the sexual part, should not be a factor in determining his suitability. But the obvious partisan positioning, the conspiracy-theory paranoia, the deliberate misstatement of facts (e.g. "they all say it didn't happen"), the evasiveness and flat refusal to answer questions and the emotional meltdown in general, comprise conduct unbefitting of a judge, regardless what the backstory is or isn't.
Hey...dumb shit..... 3 three witnesses that she named say it didn't happen...... her witnesses, she named say it did not happen.... she can't say where it happened, where it happened and who, if anyone, drove her home after the traumatic event...
BULLSHIT.
Nobody outside the room said it "didn't happen". Nobody CAN say it didn't happen. That would be the task of proving a negative. And that is impossible.
Kavanaugh however floated this same line you just did ----- and amazingly nobody called him on it --- which is why I point out his dishonesty in framing it as such. The only people allegedly in the room were Kavanaugh, Ford and Judge. One says it didn't happen, one says it did, and the third won't talk.
Illiteracy must be contagious among the partisan hackery.
Bottom line: SHE ASKED FOR IT.
Wow, just wow.
Seems like we'll never get the knuckledraggers to pick up their knuckles. On behalf of males everywhere to females I apologize for those too dense to understand that they need to.
FU. You are a clown. One more PLOY to detract from the fact that this girl HAD NO BUSINESS being at that party that time of night at that age getting drunk with older boys. WHERE WERE HER PARENTS in guiding and supervising her? ANY OTHER TIME you'd be pointing out how alcohol lowers one's inhibitions and like any other drug makes the user not responsible for their actions.
Nothing makes molesting a girl against her will right, but nothing changes the fact that Chrissy can hardly be too surprised that after secretly sneaking to an older-boys all-boy party late at light BEHIND HER PARENT'S BACKS to get drunk at the tender age of 15, that some boys there plastered out of their minds in a moment of weakness, haze and horniness, mistook her presence as an invitation and interested and FELT HER UP.
It might have been wrong, but wholly predictable to anyone with a brain. So even if it happened, that certainly doesn't detract from Kavanaugh's character and qualifications to serve as a Justice on the bench. If anyone is guilty here, it should be the parents, whom today, parents are routinely prosecuted just for letting their kids walk home from the park, much less out late at night getting drunk and felt up.
We need to find out what her parents were like. Were they hippies too getting drunk and smoking pot in the home while their little girl was out getting drunk and looking for a good lay? Pogo probably sees nothing wrong with any of this because it reminds him of the home HE grew up in!
Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.
I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.
Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.
Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.
My two cents. Yours?
.
Only issue I have,
1. No one backs her account.
2. No time, no place, no accounting for very simple details, how did you get home, how did you get there
3. She was not credible. She seemed like she was faking her way through the testimony. Weepy and tearful when she talked to the republican questioner, happy and cool when she talked to democrats.
5. She never went to the police. She could have and should have started there. She diddnt.
she has changed the number of people in that room several times...first 4, but oh, the therapist got that wrong it was actually 2....
wow that is a rough looking 52 year oldProve it, asshole.Maybe
But I think it was more than just a dry hump for fun
He tried to remove her clothes but she had a bathing suit on underneath and he gave up
AM I THE ONLY ONE who has noticed the ring around Chrissy's throat?
View attachment 219298
What is that?
I want this to end up with Brett on the Supreme Court, Feinstein impeached and Chrissy Ford counter-sued for one million dollars.
- Residual marks left from her B&D sex collar removed for the hearing?
- Deliberately put there to subliminally make her appear more the "victim?"
- Leftover choke marks from her husband after pleading with the psycho liberal bitch not to go through with this crap failed?
Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.
I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.
Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.
Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.
My two cents. Yours?
.
Prove it, asshole.Maybe
But I think it was more than just a dry hump for fun
He tried to remove her clothes but she had a bathing suit on underneath and he gave up
AM I THE ONLY ONE who has noticed the ring around Chrissy's throat?
View attachment 219298
What is that?
I want this to end up with Brett on the Supreme Court, Feinstein impeached and Chrissy Ford counter-sued for one million dollars.
- Residual marks left from her B&D sex collar removed for the hearing?
- Deliberately put there to subliminally make her appear more the "victim?"
- Leftover choke marks from her husband after pleading with the psycho liberal bitch not to go through with this crap failed?
I don't know if that's a real non-photoshopped picture or not (and I doubt it considering the source) but my mother had a scar just like that. It was from a thyroid operation. I remember the time she was in the hospital, vividly.
By the way Einstein --- how exactly do you "countersue" if you haven't been sued?
Dumbassssss.