Slade3200
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So to be clear you don’t think anything more than repealing racist laws should have been done to right the wrongs that our system had on generations of blacks in the USA? Is that correct?Let’s back up a bit and let me ask. Do you think the measures taken in the 60’s were justified or do you think nothing more than changing the laws should have been done?Our government had policies that impacted the health wealth social standing and education of an entire race of people for generations. That’s is not far off from my example and is deserving of something more than simply changing discriminatory laws. Come on dude, this isn’t very complicated to understand. Simple morals and ethicsYou couldnt
You couldn’t be any more off base... no it wasn’t just bad people it was our laws, our government our society that oppressed a race for generations and still has lasting effects in today’s society. Let that sink in. Also you ignored my central point about the water. Is providing funding and support for that down discrimination against other towns? Yes or no1. For it to be discrimination it need to unjust or prejudicial treatment. I don’t believe it is so. You can make the case that it causes harm to white who don’t get accepted but that’s like saying helping the town woth contaminated water is harmful for the neighboring town that didn’t get the same funding and support.
It is obvious unjust for white students to lose out on college slots to black students based on race.
Yes, it does cause harm to white students who don't get accepted, or don't get into the better schools, or don't get assistance, or ect. ect ect. Obvoiusly.
2. the people responsible are not people. It was our government and societies laws that lasted for generations and had a real and lasting effect. How do you suggest we right those wrongs?
The people responsible were people. How to right those long ago wrongs? By giving equality before the law for the last 50 years and making blacks fully equal citizens in the greatest country in the world.
Not by punishing white people today, for something other people did a long time ago, based on the fact that some of them have similar skin tones.
3. the fight against it and the pushback to their cries when they complain about modern day issues is what fuels the fire. Not the laws and movement enacted to improve the situation. The election of Obama was a great symbolic achievement for the black community but it also brought a wave of racial hate that had been burrowing for a long time. I was and still am very disappointed about how much of this crap still exists in our society.
The election of Obama did not bring a wave of racial hate. It brought a wave of horrific wace baiting where normal partisan opposition was falsely labeled wacism, by vile liars.
But, thank you for not denying the increased division and hatred that these actions are causing.
Time to stop them, before they totally tear this nation apart. If it is not already too late.
I ignored a bad analogy.
BUT for your analogy to be accurate, it is not just one town with bad water. There are many towns that have "bad water" ie historical reasons for poverty and hopelessness.
YOu just want to ignore the white ones and only focus on the black and brown ones.
And we have. For generations. And it has put enormous burdens on the poor and middle class whites of this country, to the point that white males are seeing their life spans SHRINK.
Time to stop the injustice. Time to stop the racism and discrimination.
"impacted"? Want to vague that up a bit?
And if they deserved anything beyond legal equality, they had it, for 70 years and they tapped out that well of white guilt.
We, current day whites, have paid enough and taken enough shit, that increasingly we are done with that.
Time to end that racist discrimination against white people. I want equality and equal protection before the Law for my people.
A very good question.
The repeal of Jim Crow Laws, I support. The idea of Affirmative Action, in all of it's guises, is a difficult question.
Two points stand out very well though.
1. Discriminating against a majority for a minority, is less painful and more sustainable, when the minority is a smaller minority, like 10 or 12 percent. That makes it possible for the white victims of such discrimination to hope to get a fair break the next time. As we move to MINORITY MAJORITY, it becomes a far heavier burden, and becomes more of a large percentage of the population ALWAYS being fucked.
2. The idea was that AA would improve the living standards of blacks and heal past injustices and racial tensions. We see that that has failed. Instead it seems to be growing an ever increasing belief in entitlement and/or privilege, that is tearing this nation apart, and indeed, killing people in the streets right now, with escalation an ongoing process.
I might have or might not have supported them THEN, but I sure as hell do not support them any more.