Snake Meat......source of chinese virus

[Persistence Of Memory]

This!

 

[badger2]

It's fascinating to see the experts at Mount Sinai point to their Nerium page. This instantly takes oleandrin out of context and miscegenates (mixes) hundreds of other Nerium compounds into the discussion:

18 Aug 2020 'No Evidence' Oleandrin Can Cure COVID-19, As Experts Warn That It Can Be Toxic

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/no-evidence-oleandrin-cure-covid-19-experts-warn-toxic-170303112.html

 

[badger2]

'No evidence' oleandrin can cure COVID-19, as experts warn that it can be toxic

Experts unpack the dangerous, toxic effects associated with oleandrin, an extract of oleander that President Trump reportedly believes may help with COVID-19.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Marion Morrison]

They always said you could eat Diamondback, but I never did.
I just kills 'em and buries 'em. Maybe take a skin sometimes.
Pfft, that last skin I salted and tacked out the cats ate like potato chips before dawn.
May have been coons involved.
Anything that has poison, I ain't eating that!
No blowfish, no Diamondbacks.

 

[badger2]

There are 152 references for oleandrin at Pubmed. However, the recent manipulation (scrambling) of the usual chronological order for Pubmed abstracts complexifies research for the average person. For instance, rather than the earliest, first entry for oleandrin, which would give the researcher a time of discovery of pharmacological interest, there is abstract #151, dated 1987. Abstract #152 is dated Jul 2020.

 

[badger2]

The difference between a poison and a medicine may be only the amount. There are many examples.

 

[badger2]

The pertinent oleandrin study in post #899:

https://www.biorixv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.15.203489v1.full.pdf

 

[badger2]

One can scroll down to the controversial study, "Prophylactic and Therapeutic Inhibition of In Vitro SARS-CoV-2 Replication by Oleandrin" in Yahoo's Trump-oleandrin article:

Trump reportedly pushing new unproven coronavirus treatment that is also embraced by HUD Sec. Ben Carson and MyPillow's Mike Lindell

MyPillow's Mike Lindell said Trump "basically said: …'The FDA should be approving it,'" regarding oleandrin as a potential coronavirus treatment.

www.yahoo.com

 

[badger2]

Authors of the controversial paper are, Kenneth S. Plante, Jessica A. Plante, Diana Fernandez, Divya Mirchandani, Nathen Bopp, Patricia V. Aguilar, K. Jagannadha Sastry, Robert A. Newman, Scott C. Weaver.

 

[badger2]

That this was non-peer reviewed, might ruffle some feathers, though how do the facts square with the opposition's claims? For example, the cardiac parameters?

* Oleandrin showed 3,000-fold reduction in infectious virus production.

* EC50 values were 11.98 ng/ml when virus output was measured at 24 hr post-infection, 7.07 ng/ml at 48 hr post-infection.

* "The well-accepted mechanism of action for these compounds lies in their ability to inhibit functioning Na+/K+-ATPase, which in turn, alters ion flux across membranes. This explains, for example, the ability of this class of compounds to improve functioning of heart muscle in patients with congestive heart failure."

 

[Unkotare]

They always said you could eat Diamondback, but I never did.
I just kills 'em and buries 'em. Maybe take a skin sometimes.
Pfft, that last skin I salted and tacked out the cats ate like potato chips before dawn.
May have been coons involved.
Anything that has poison, I ain't eating that!
No blowfish, no Diamondbacks.

Wuss

 

[Marion Morrison]

They always said you could eat Diamondback, but I never did.
I just kills 'em and buries 'em. Maybe take a skin sometimes.
Pfft, that last skin I salted and tacked out the cats ate like potato chips before dawn.
May have been coons involved.
Anything that has poison, I ain't eating that!
No blowfish, no Diamondbacks.

Wuss

Poison free wuss.

 

[Unkotare]

They always said you could eat Diamondback, but I never did.
I just kills 'em and buries 'em. Maybe take a skin sometimes.
Pfft, that last skin I salted and tacked out the cats ate like potato chips before dawn.
May have been coons involved.
Anything that has poison, I ain't eating that!
No blowfish, no Diamondbacks.

Wuss

Poison free wuss.

Don't you know? Oxygen is poisonous.

 

[Marion Morrison]

They always said you could eat Diamondback, but I never did.
I just kills 'em and buries 'em. Maybe take a skin sometimes.
Pfft, that last skin I salted and tacked out the cats ate like potato chips before dawn.
May have been coons involved.
Anything that has poison, I ain't eating that!
No blowfish, no Diamondbacks.

Wuss

Poison free wuss.

Don't you know? Oxygen is poisonous.

Not in my world. Diamondback bites will kill you, though.

 

[Unkotare]

They always said you could eat Diamondback, but I never did.
I just kills 'em and buries 'em. Maybe take a skin sometimes.
Pfft, that last skin I salted and tacked out the cats ate like potato chips before dawn.
May have been coons involved.
Anything that has poison, I ain't eating that!
No blowfish, no Diamondbacks.

Wuss

Poison free wuss.

Don't you know? Oxygen is poisonous.

Not in my world. ....

In everyone's world.

 

[Unkotare]

...Diamondback bites will kill you, though.

Yeah, look at those teeth!

 

[Turtlesoup]

The chiinese eat all kinds of exotic foods......and live with pigs in many cases....the source of most of the flu viruses that travel around the world.

.Wuhan: Chinese scientists trace coronavirus to snakes - Breitbart

Snakes had nothing to do with it-----its the Wuhan Labs doing and the open air market although completely disgusting is just not the source. Head of wuhan lab was um lets say QUICKLY replaced-----

 

[badger2]

Replacing the head of Wuhan lab was a media ploy. There are no engineered lab-like sequences in the COVID-19 genome, which at the time it was suggested, was sensationalist, yellow journalism.

 

[badger2]

Americans seem to be projecting their embarrassment onto Trump as a convenient scapegoat. In reality, no other group of Homo sapiens thought COVID would turn out to be this pandemically potent, either.

19 Aug 2020 Disapproval of Trump COVID Response Hits New High

Disapproval of Trump COVID response hits new high — and many aren’t hopeful, poll says

A majority of people said they were embarrassed by the response to the pandemic.

www.yahoo.com

'....An Overwhelming Majority of Americans Say the U.S. Response to Coronavirus Makes Them Feel Embarrassed....Fifty-five percent also said they thought the worst of the pandemic was yet to come.'

 

[badger2]

We can't agree that snakes have nothing to do with COVID-19.

5 Aug 2020 Snake Venom / COVID-19

Snake venom-derived bradykinin-potentiating peptides: A promising therapy for COVID-19? - PubMed

The severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-COV-2), a novel coronavirus responsible for the recent infectious pandemic, is known to downregulate angiotensin-converting enzyme-2 (ACE2). Most current investigations focused on SARS-COV-2-related effects on the renin-angiotensin system...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

'....Bothrops jararaca....'

On a snakes and hypertension trajectory, we mentioned Bothrops jararaca in this thread around 17-18 Jul 2020, in posts # 756, 761 and 764.

Snake Meat......source of chinese virus

ACE (angiotensin-converting enzyme) blockade was mentioned in post #756 for maximakinin from the Chinese Red Belly toad, Bombina maxima. Ace blockade is also from the venom of Bothrops jararaca, which interesting history is here: Snakes and Hypertension...

www.usmessageboard.com

At the time of those posts, we were tracking the Rab gene in relation to zinc and the inhibition of Zika virus, and for the controversial Zelenko Protocol's use of zinc in conjunction with hydroychloroquine and azithromycin.