Smoker's - A Place to Work & Shop?

[Bonzi]

Should people be allowed to have work environments and run business that permit smoking?

If I'm a smoker and I want people to feel free to do so also and I own a business, should I have the right to do so? what if I want to run an establishment where I want people to smoke?

Or is it ok for the Government to decide this?

 

[Pogo]

Should people be allowed to have work environments and run business that permit smoking?

If I'm a smoker and I want people to feel free to do so also and I own a business, should I have the right to do so? what if I want to run an establishment where I want people to smoke?

Or is it ok for the Government to decide this?

Let's see what the Book that establishes the government says:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Nope. You still cannot get around the laws of physics. People breathe air. There is no job or business that requires smoking. It's the same reason you can't just go dump antifreeze into your local water supply. Does the government, in its role as guardian of the public welfare, not have the right to prohibit you doing that?

Why would you "want people to smoke"? In your business or anywhere? Are you a (drug pusher) tobacco company? Would you "want" people to shoot heroin?

 

[Bonzi]

I'm not saying make it a REQUIREMENT to smoke, just that they would allow it.

If I want to start a business, say, a comic book shop, in my neighborhood, but I want people to feel free to smoke while they are shopping, why not? People that don't like it can go elsewhere... why is this a problem?

 

[Blackrook]

My state Nevada has outlawed smoking in every establishment except casinos.

People who gamble smoke and drink alcohol while they are gambling. Gamblers will simply not come to a casino where they are not allowed to smoke.

If the federal government imposes a smoking ban on casinos, my state will sink into a permanent Depression with no way out.

I hope that idiot Senator Harry Reid will keep that in mind while representing the interests of Nevada.

 

[Pogo]

Gamblers will simply not come to a casino where they are not allowed to smoke.

How does anyone know that?

If the federal government imposes a smoking ban on casinos, my state will sink into a permanent Depression with no way out.

And if your state had made itself dependent on a system of taking advantage of people through false illusions -- whose fault is that?

 

[Pogo]

I'm not saying make it a REQUIREMENT to smoke, just that they would allow it.

If I want to start a business, say, a comic book shop, in my neighborhood, but I want people to feel free to smoke while they are shopping, why not? People that don't like it can go elsewhere... why is this a problem?

Because smoking cannot exist in a vacuum. Literally.
In other words it is impossible for one person in a roomful of people to be smoking. If one person lights up, everybody in the area is smoking. Whether they want to or not. And that's the issue. It always has been.

If one person in the same roomful of people is drinking --- that doesn't happen.

 

[Blackrook]

Gamblers will simply not come to a casino where they are not allowed to smoke.

How does anyone know that?

If the federal government imposes a smoking ban on casinos, my state will sink into a permanent Depression with no way out.

And if your state had made itself dependent on a system of taking advantage of people through false illusions -- whose fault is that?

Unless you live in Nevada, you are not entitled to an opinion.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Should people be allowed to have work environments and run business that permit smoking?

If I'm a smoker and I want people to feel free to do so also and I own a business, should I have the right to do so? what if I want to run an establishment where I want people to smoke?

Or is it ok for the Government to decide this?

Let's see what the Book that establishes the government says:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Nope. You still cannot get around the laws of physics. People breathe air. There is no job or business that requires smoking. It's the same reason you can't just go dump antifreeze into your local water supply. Does the government, in its role as guardian of the public welfare, not have the right to prohibit you doing that?

Why would you "want people to smoke"? In your business or anywhere? Are you a (drug pusher) tobacco company? Would you "want" people to shoot heroin?

Caffeine is a drug are you for banning coffee shops too?
Alcohol is a drug are you for banning drinking establishments too?

 

[Skull Pilot]

I'm not saying make it a REQUIREMENT to smoke, just that they would allow it.

If I want to start a business, say, a comic book shop, in my neighborhood, but I want people to feel free to smoke while they are shopping, why not? People that don't like it can go elsewhere... why is this a problem?

Because smoking cannot exist in a vacuum. Literally.
In other words it is impossible for one person in a roomful of people to be smoking. If one person lights up, everybody in the area is smoking. Whether they want to or not. And that's the issue. It always has been.

If one person in the same roomful of people is drinking --- that doesn't happen.

If I clearly state that smoking is allowed in my bar you don't have to drink there if you will be bothered by the smoke do you??

 

[Bonzi]

I'm not saying make it a REQUIREMENT to smoke, just that they would allow it.

If I want to start a business, say, a comic book shop, in my neighborhood, but I want people to feel free to smoke while they are shopping, why not? People that don't like it can go elsewhere... why is this a problem?

Because smoking cannot exist in a vacuum. Literally.
In other words it is impossible for one person in a roomful of people to be smoking. If one person lights up, everybody in the area is smoking. Whether they want to or not. And that's the issue. It always has been.

If one person in the same roomful of people is drinking --- that doesn't happen.

Just don't work for or frequent the establishment that allows smoking. No brainer.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Gamblers will simply not come to a casino where they are not allowed to smoke.

How does anyone know that?

If the federal government imposes a smoking ban on casinos, my state will sink into a permanent Depression with no way out.

And if your state had made itself dependent on a system of taking advantage of people through false illusions -- whose fault is that?

Everyone who gambles knows the house always wins but they choose to gamble anyway.

And every state government sponsors gambling via lottery and scratch tickets.

 

[Pogo]

Gamblers will simply not come to a casino where they are not allowed to smoke.

How does anyone know that?

If the federal government imposes a smoking ban on casinos, my state will sink into a permanent Depression with no way out.

And if your state had made itself dependent on a system of taking advantage of people through false illusions -- whose fault is that?

Unless you live in Nevada, you are not entitled to an opinion.

Absolute fucking horseshit. The questions stand. If they're inconvenient, tough titty.

Gamblers will simply not come to a casino where they are not allowed to smoke.

How does anyone know that?

If the federal government imposes a smoking ban on casinos, my state will sink into a permanent Depression with no way out.

And if your state had made itself dependent on a system of taking advantage of people through false illusions -- whose fault is that?

Everyone who gambles knows the house always wins but they choose to gamble anyway.

And every state government sponsors gambling via lottery and scratch tickets.

Thanks, but that wasn't the question either.

 

[Pogo]

I'm not saying make it a REQUIREMENT to smoke, just that they would allow it.

If I want to start a business, say, a comic book shop, in my neighborhood, but I want people to feel free to smoke while they are shopping, why not? People that don't like it can go elsewhere... why is this a problem?

Because smoking cannot exist in a vacuum. Literally.
In other words it is impossible for one person in a roomful of people to be smoking. If one person lights up, everybody in the area is smoking. Whether they want to or not. And that's the issue. It always has been.

If one person in the same roomful of people is drinking --- that doesn't happen.

If I clearly state that smoking is allowed in my bar you don't have to drink there if you will be bothered by the smoke do you??

Nope. I don't do bars anyway so I don't care.
But that wasn't the point. The point is that if a given person DOES walk in and somebody is smoking -- then that newcomer is smoking too. There's no way around that.

 

[Pogo]

Should people be allowed to have work environments and run business that permit smoking?

If I'm a smoker and I want people to feel free to do so also and I own a business, should I have the right to do so? what if I want to run an establishment where I want people to smoke?

Or is it ok for the Government to decide this?

Let's see what the Book that establishes the government says:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Nope. You still cannot get around the laws of physics. People breathe air. There is no job or business that requires smoking. It's the same reason you can't just go dump antifreeze into your local water supply. Does the government, in its role as guardian of the public welfare, not have the right to prohibit you doing that?

Why would you "want people to smoke"? In your business or anywhere? Are you a (drug pusher) tobacco company? Would you "want" people to shoot heroin?

Caffeine is a drug are you for banning coffee shops too?
Alcohol is a drug are you for banning drinking establishments too?

You can pick up a caffeine high by walking into a coffee shop and not drinking anything?
Can I get a buzz on by standing at the door of a bar.

No. So it's not the same thing.

 

[Blackrook]

I don't think anyone who doesn't live in Nevada has a say in how we run our casinos.

 

[Pogo]

I'm not saying make it a REQUIREMENT to smoke, just that they would allow it.

If I want to start a business, say, a comic book shop, in my neighborhood, but I want people to feel free to smoke while they are shopping, why not? People that don't like it can go elsewhere... why is this a problem?

Because smoking cannot exist in a vacuum. Literally.
In other words it is impossible for one person in a roomful of people to be smoking. If one person lights up, everybody in the area is smoking. Whether they want to or not. And that's the issue. It always has been.

If one person in the same roomful of people is drinking --- that doesn't happen.

Just don't work for or frequent the establishment that allows smoking. No brainer.

You asked "why is this a problem" -- I told you why it's a problem. Now you want to deny people jobs because you can't figure a way around the problem?

 

[Pogo]

I don't think anyone who doesn't live in Nevada has a say in how we run our casinos.

Nor is that what I suggested.
Every one of you clowns has tried to redefine my points instead of addressing them.

 

[mdk]

I've always felt the free market should decide such a question. If you don't care for the fact that I allow smoking in my bar then go somewhere else.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Should people be allowed to have work environments and run business that permit smoking?

If I'm a smoker and I want people to feel free to do so also and I own a business, should I have the right to do so? what if I want to run an establishment where I want people to smoke?

Or is it ok for the Government to decide this?

Let's see what the Book that establishes the government says:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
​

Nope. You still cannot get around the laws of physics. People breathe air. There is no job or business that requires smoking. It's the same reason you can't just go dump antifreeze into your local water supply. Does the government, in its role as guardian of the public welfare, not have the right to prohibit you doing that?

Why would you "want people to smoke"? In your business or anywhere? Are you a (drug pusher) tobacco company? Would you "want" people to shoot heroin?

Caffeine is a drug are you for banning coffee shops too?
Alcohol is a drug are you for banning drinking establishments too?

You can pick up a caffeine high by walking into a coffee shop and not drinking anything?
Can I get a buzz on by standing at the door of a bar.

No. So it's not the same thing.

A drug is a drug and you asked if someone was a drug pusher if they wanted to allow smoking and even equated it to heroin

 

[rightwinger]

Smokers should be free to spread their filth wherever they please

Just lke the good ole days