IcebergSlim
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Who told you this?
IF there is "no cap out of pocket", what is Medicare spending all that money on?
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Single payer system within 7 years
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IF there is "no cap out of pocket", what is Medicare spending all that money on?
IcebergSlim
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How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
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Who cares its free money .......no need to know where its going or anythingWho told you this?No cap on out of pocket as I understand it.......Explain how that is possible.......IS it really good enough??? Really.....IF my dad and mother in law had to depend on it they'd be bankruptMedicare is a single payer system,
If it is good enough for people over 65, it should be good for all,
IF there is "no cap out of pocket", what is Medicare spending all that money on?
BuckToothMoron
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The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
Nope, as soon as you change it, you own it. The press and the Dems are a dynamic team, and although you may blame the Dems for taking this giant step towards single payer, as soon as the GOP signs on to it, it's their's.
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They haven't changed it. A proposed bill that is not signed into law by the president does nothing to change the status quoThe GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
Nope, as soon as you change it, you own it. The press and the Dems are a dynamic team, and although you may blame the Dems for taking this giant step towards single payer, as soon as the GOP signs on to it, it's their's.
How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
BuckToothMoron
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They haven't changed it. A proposed bill that is not signed into law by the president does nothing to change the status quoThe GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
Nope, as soon as you change it, you own it. The press and the Dems are a dynamic team, and although you may blame the Dems for taking this giant step towards single payer, as soon as the GOP signs on to it, it's their's.
It will eventually get altered by the GOP, the president will sign it, and the GOP will OWN IT.
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"It's all so bewildering. Things are changing so fast."
There's a reason why Republican hack extraordinaire Tucker Carlson, didn't quite outright bash the direction to a single-payer system, it's because an R is behind the current President's name.
See any bash on the direction the country's heading is a direct or indirect bash on the current President, and rightwing hack Tucker Carlson, wouldn't dare go against his party masters, now would he?
Now had it been Hillary, Bernie or any President with a D behind their name, this segment would have been a field day bashing the idea of single-payer, it wouldn't be simply "bewilderment."
#SMHGOP
There's a reason why Republican hack extraordinaire Tucker Carlson, didn't quite outright bash the direction to a single-payer system, it's because an R is behind the current President's name.
See any bash on the direction the country's heading is a direct or indirect bash on the current President, and rightwing hack Tucker Carlson, wouldn't dare go against his party masters, now would he?
Now had it been Hillary, Bernie or any President with a D behind their name, this segment would have been a field day bashing the idea of single-payer, it wouldn't be simply "bewilderment."
#SMHGOP
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Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
JoeMoma
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Republicans and Democrats have a tendency to switch their talking points depending on who is in office."It's all so bewildering. Things are changing so fast."
There's a reason why Republican hack extraordinaire Tucker Carlson, didn't quite outright bash the direction to a single-payer system, it's because an R is behind the current President's name.
See any bash on the direction the country's heading is a direct or indirect bash on the current President, and rightwing hack Tucker Carlson, wouldn't dare go against his party masters, now would he?
Now had it been Hillary, Bernie or any President with a D behind their name, this segment would have been a field day bashing the idea of single-payer, it wouldn't be simply "bewilderment."
#SMHGOP
I agree, it will happen.
Once you start handing Americans a mere subsidy, they'll scream that it's not enough, and they'll expect their ENTIRE healthcare bill be paid by someone else.
Once you start handing Americans a mere subsidy, they'll scream that it's not enough, and they'll expect their ENTIRE healthcare bill be paid by someone else.
BuckToothMoron
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How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
task0778
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How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
And then why did we only get 1.6% economic growth for his time in office?
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On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
That's not going to happen.
IcebergSlim
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I love how you've been trained to reject everything you don't want to hear as "fake"...like that....How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
But why would the CBO ever put up "fake numbers", even under a Director appointed by a Republican Congress? This, after a commendable effort on the part of republicans at every level, to sabotage the outcome.
IcebergSlim
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How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
No kidding, why did the debt double during the BO years?
And then why did we only get 1.6% economic growth for his time in office?
Ah, a "numbers guy".....
Post the growth rate of discretionary spending Under Obama........post the same number for his predecessor...
leave the determination of which is larger to me....
thanks....
Siete
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"It's all so bewildering. Things are changing so fast."
There's a reason why Republican hack extraordinaire Tucker Carlson, didn't quite outright bash the direction to a single-payer system, it's because an R is behind the current President's name.
See any bash on the direction the country's heading is a direct or indirect bash on the current President, and rightwing hack Tucker Carlson, wouldn't dare go against his party masters, now would he?
Now had it been Hillary, Bernie or any President with a D behind their name, this segment would have been a field day bashing the idea of single-payer, it wouldn't be simply "bewilderment."
#SMHGOP
it was.. Bernie was pro single payer, Fox labeled him a "socialist" and the Fox fans jumped on Sanders with both feet.
IsaacNewton
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Single payer healthcare. And then the nightmare conservatives have been dreading for a hundred years.
Everyone gets to see a doctor.
Oh the Horror!
Everyone gets to see a doctor.
Oh the Horror!
I love how you've been trained to reject everything you don't want to hear as "fake"...like that....How did they do THAT?The GOP doesn't own anything yet. The Senate will devour that pathetic bill and what comes out the other side will look completely different.On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years
The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.
According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
Couldn't agree more. And the Dems breathed a huge sigh of relief when that bill passed the house, because they know the Repubs now own healthcare and all the shit to come.
And besides that the DEMOCRATS are solely responsible for this mess because they SINGLE HANDIDLY CREATED IT.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....they only had to qualify their original glowing reports after Yahoo idiots insisted on not participating (of course several, at the state level, would eventually see the light), and to sabotage perfectly well designed elements by withholding resources.
For all the dire clap trap you've been told by FOX, medical professionals who analyze health care policy were quite pleased with numerous outcomes. It was even cited by the Medicare Trustees as a reason for the extension of the programs "viability horizon".....
The "mess" is a result of Congressional Loudmouths not having the wherewithal to even PROPOSE a meaningful alternative over the course of 7 years.
CBO has CONSISTENTLY scored ACA deficit neutral.....
Was that based on a couple of years of tax receipts before the spending began?
I love fake numbers like that!
But why would the CBO ever put up "fake numbers", even under a Director appointed by a Republican Congress? This, after a commendable effort on the part of republicans at every level, to sabotage the outcome.
I love how you've been trained to reject everything you don't want to hear as "fake"...
Counting 5 years of revenues versus 3 years of spending isn't fake?
What do you call it?
But why would the CBO ever put up "fake numbers",
Garbage in, garbage out.
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