Single payer system within 7 years

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On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years

The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.

According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.

The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
 
IMHO Krauthammer is right, the GOP surrendered (a long time ago) on government controlled healthcare and it's only a matter of time before full blown single payer is a reality, this latest bullshit health care "reform" from the GOP controlled HoR would effectively only change things from Obamacare-D to Obamacare-R, the federal government assisted suicide mission for the dollar and the general economy continues with full support from both of the major political parties.
 
Medicare is a single payer system,

If it is good enough for people over 65, it should be good for all,

Should be? What if it is not? Assuming it is not the perfect system for all, (crazy thought I know), what choices will they have?
 
IMHO Krauthammer is right, the GOP surrendered (a long time ago) on government controlled healthcare and it's only a matter of time before full blown single payer is a reality, this latest bullshit health care "reform" from the GOP controlled HoR would effectively only change things from Obamacare-D to Obamacare-R, the federal government assisted suicide mission for the dollar and the general economy continues with full support from both of the major political parties.

We all know it is a one party system in the federal government.

The only hope is the Article V movement. States should run their own health care, like MA.
 
When I heard Donald Trump say, "Make no mistake folks, this is a repeal and replacement of Obamacare.", I knew it wasn't.
 
Medicare is a single payer system,
Not really since Medicare Advantage (aka "Medigap") is covered by private insurance plans.

If it is good enough for people over 65, it should be good for all,
Sure why not, Medicare is only $27 TRILLION underwater in long term liabilities, might as well go ahead and make it $200 TRILLION, what the hell, the coming generations aren't going to be able to pay it anyways.
 
IMHO Krauthammer is right, the GOP surrendered (a long time ago) on government controlled healthcare and it's only a matter of time before full blown single payer is a reality, this latest bullshit health care "reform" from the GOP controlled HoR would effectively only change things from Obamacare-D to Obamacare-R, the federal government assisted suicide mission for the dollar and the general economy continues with full support from both of the major political parties.

We all know it is a one party system in the federal government.

The only hope is the Article V movement. States should run their own health care, like MA.
Kind of like public schools? Each public school could have it's own doctor or doctors.
 
On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years

The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.

According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.

The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system

Krauthammer's predictions haven't been correct for quite awhile.

That said, they are all acting like a bunch of retards.
 
Medicare is a single payer system,
Not really since Medicare Advantage (aka "Medigap") is covered by private insurance plans.

If it is good enough for people over 65, it should be good for all,
Sure why not, Medicare is only $27 TRILLION underwater in long term liabilities, might as well go ahead and make it $200 TRILLION, what the hell, the coming generations aren't going to be able to pay it anyways.

Medicare Advantage and Medigap are not the same thing and can never be construed as so. Medicare Advantage replaces your Medicare, you stay in the Medicare program and continue to pay Part B premium's but the govt pays the insurance company to take over your care.

Medigap you stay with original Medicare and it picks up the slack Medicare doesn't pay.
 
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system

Again, if you've ever had to argue with an insurance company to get treatment after they have your money, you would't say anything so retarded.

The reason why we will probably have single payer at some point is because the current system of corporate greed can't be maintained. Not with an aging population.
 
Medicare is a single payer system,
Not really since Medicare Advantage (aka "Medigap") is covered by private insurance plans.

If it is good enough for people over 65, it should be good for all,
Sure why not, Medicare is only $27 TRILLION underwater in long term liabilities, might as well go ahead and make it $200 TRILLION, what the hell, the coming generations aren't going to be able to pay it anyways.

Medicare Advantage and Medigap are not the same thing and can never be construed as so. Medicare Advantage replaces your Medicare, you stay in the Medicare program and continue to pay Part B premium's but the govt pays the insurance company to take over your care.

Medigap you stay with original Medicare and it picks up the slack Medicare doesn't pay.
Thanks for the clarification, my father always refers to his "Medigap" coverage as his "Medicare Advantage" and vice versa so I guess I picked up the vernacular, good to know the actual technical differences in terminology.
 
The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system

Again, if you've ever had to argue with an insurance company to get treatment after they have your money, you would't say anything so retarded.

The reason why we will probably have single payer at some point is because the current system of corporate greed can't be maintained. Not with an aging population.
...and yet your big beloved central government allows the corporate greed.

Amazingly you think that same big beloved government run by criminals, will fix the problem they caused.

Can't fix stupid.
 
Medicare is a single payer system,
Not really since Medicare Advantage (aka "Medigap") is covered by private insurance plans.

If it is good enough for people over 65, it should be good for all,
Sure why not, Medicare is only $27 TRILLION underwater in long term liabilities, might as well go ahead and make it $200 TRILLION, what the hell, the coming generations aren't going to be able to pay it anyways.
How do you run a deficit when you're the guy printing the money? :dunno:
 
Medicare is a single payer system,
Not really since Medicare Advantage (aka "Medigap") is covered by private insurance plans.

If it is good enough for people over 65, it should be good for all,
Sure why not, Medicare is only $27 TRILLION underwater in long term liabilities, might as well go ahead and make it $200 TRILLION, what the hell, the coming generations aren't going to be able to pay it anyways.

Medicare Advantage and Medigap are not the same thing and can never be construed as so. Medicare Advantage replaces your Medicare, you stay in the Medicare program and continue to pay Part B premium's but the govt pays the insurance company to take over your care.

Medigap you stay with original Medicare and it picks up the slack Medicare doesn't pay.
Thanks for the clarification, my father always refers to his "Medigap" coverage as his "Medicare Advantage" and vice versa so I guess I picked up the vernacular, good to know the actual technical differences in terminology.


Your father probably has this somewhere around the house but this is Medicare and you and most coverages.

Download handbook in different formats | Medicare.gov

I still have Medicare Advantage clients that refer to it as medigap and I always correct them, there is a big difference.

I have Medicare Advantage and it includes Part D prescription coverage and very satisfied with it. When you have a medigap policy you then have to purchase your Part D separate.
 
Medicare is a single payer system,
Not really since Medicare Advantage (aka "Medigap") is covered by private insurance plans.

If it is good enough for people over 65, it should be good for all,
Sure why not, Medicare is only $27 TRILLION underwater in long term liabilities, might as well go ahead and make it $200 TRILLION, what the hell, the coming generations aren't going to be able to pay it anyways.

Pay more taxes and it is covered.

Let/make even welfare recipients pay health tax, so all would have skin in the game. That would cut down on trips to emergency with a drippy nose. Stop frivolous law suits. Take care of yourself with proper diet and exercise.

Stop believing that you will get instant and immediate attention and never have to wait for anything. In other words, get real. You have to pay for your health one way or another, by higher taxes or otherwise.
 
On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years

The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.

According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.

The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality.


What the hell is this SUPPOSED to mean? Yeah, I see the random dropping of "socialist" is enought to solicit the Huzzahs of the local braindead, but what is

a) "Socialist"

b) BAD

about "trying to get things done that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population"? Should we aim for something considerably lower in the service of some "non-Socialist" faith?





And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system


Is The City of G*d really attainable?

What is your driving principle?


"AIM LOW! IT WILL ALWAYS NEVER GO IN IF IT IS BELOW THE HOLE."
 
Medicare is a single payer system,
Not really since Medicare Advantage (aka "Medigap") is covered by private insurance plans.

If it is good enough for people over 65, it should be good for all,
Sure why not, Medicare is only $27 TRILLION underwater in long term liabilities, might as well go ahead and make it $200 TRILLION, what the hell, the coming generations aren't going to be able to pay it anyways.

Pay more taxes and it is covered.
You first, I already pay way more taxes than I should and have absolutely no interest in participating in yet another government run health care scheme that accomplishes nothing more than to accelerate the deterioration of our already dire financial situation and adding to the degree of looting that the federal government is already perpetrating against me.


Stop believing that you will get instant and immediate attention and never have to wait for anything. In other words, get real. You have to pay for your health one way or another, by higher taxes or otherwise.
You're the one that is asking for "instant and immediate attention and never have to wait for anything" by advocating for government run single payer, it's the easy answer "let the government do it for me" , right?

I have no problem paying a private company for my health insurance, I just don't want to pay for everybody Else's too, capisce?
 

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