Single payer system within 7 years

Yes, drugs are cheaper when you threaten to steal them. DERP!

Sure they are.

What is a drug? It's a combination of chemicals. In short, it's knowledge.

Now, if we only charge the cost of those chemicals, like the Europeans do, drugs are cheap.

The problem is, we let big Pharma charge whatever they feel like in this country, and people are desperate enough to pay that.

That's just fucking crazy.

Now, if we only charge the cost of those chemicals, like the Europeans do, drugs are cheap.

Yes, if you only want the drugs we have now, you can have all the cheap drugs you want.

The problem is, we let big Pharma charge whatever they feel like in this country,

Too much freedom, eh comrade?

and people are desperate enough to pay that.

People want drugs that can save their lives? If only there was a way to encourage new drug development......

That's just fucking crazy.


Irony is ironic.
 
On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer predicts America will have single-payer health care within 7 years

The recent passage of a tweak on Obamacare by the GOP is viewed with disdain by pretty much everyone, just like when the Dims passed Obamacare and were rounded up and thrown out of office.

According to some, however, this will only lead to a single payer in a very short time.

The GOP acted like a bunch of Dims yesterday as they tweaked, not repealed, Obamacare. They were not even very sure what was in the bill, Nancy Pelosi style. They did not even wait for a CBO analysis of what exactly they were voting for. Then they all went to the White House to celebrate like a bunch of retards. Of course, the main objective in Washington is simply to "get things done" that work 100%, 100% of the time for 100% of the population. This is nothing short of a socialist mentality. And since socialism is nothing but a never ending quest for the unattainable, the drum beat will continue for a single payer system
I'm not so sure the current gop push will result in single payer. I think it will block grant Medicaid, and create a separate pool for ill, disabled and unemployed.

I'm unhappy about it, because I think it punishes children born with disabilities and workers who were injured by lumping them in with goldbrickers, but I blame Obama for expanding Medicare. I'd prefer not to have "non-workers" in my insurance pool, though.
 
Yes, if you only want the drugs we have now, you can have all the cheap drugs you want.

Works on the assumption scientists are only in it for the money. THey aren't.

Some- and I know this is a concept you don't get, being a battered housewife REpublican - do it because they actually want to help people.

Works on the assumption scientists are only in it for the money.


Who is going to give the scientists billions of dollars to discover, develop, test and get approved a cheap drug?
 
The government and universities aren't spending billions to develop, test and get approval for new drugs.

Um, yeah, they are.

Here's a cute story.

This Pharma Company Won't Commit To Fairly Pricing A Zika Vaccine You Helped Pay For | HuffPost

The Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, which is part of the U.S. Department of Defense, began developing the vaccine in March 2016. In September, the Army announced that it had enlisted Sanofi Pasteur, a division of the Paris-based pharmaceutical giant Sanofi, as its research partner. Sanofi was awarded a $43 million grant to conduct a second phase of trials, set to begin in early 2018. If those prove successful, the government has promised Sanofi another $130 million to conduct the third phase of trials.

But that’s not all Sanofi stands to gain if the Zika vaccine works. The Army intends to grant the company an exclusive license to sell the vaccine in the U.S., according to a notice filed in the Federal Register in December.

That arrangement has consumer watchdogs and U.S. lawmakers, including Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), raising the alarm. Millions of Americans of reproductive age could need this vaccine to protect against a virus that can spread through sex and cause major birth defects in the children of infected women. And Sanofi ― a company that has previously been accused of jacking up drug prices for American customers ― would be the one setting the cost of this much-anticipated vaccine.
 
The government and universities aren't spending billions to develop, test and get approval for new drugs.

Um, yeah, they are.

Here's a cute story.

This Pharma Company Won't Commit To Fairly Pricing A Zika Vaccine You Helped Pay For | HuffPost

The Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, which is part of the U.S. Department of Defense, began developing the vaccine in March 2016. In September, the Army announced that it had enlisted Sanofi Pasteur, a division of the Paris-based pharmaceutical giant Sanofi, as its research partner. Sanofi was awarded a $43 million grant to conduct a second phase of trials, set to begin in early 2018. If those prove successful, the government has promised Sanofi another $130 million to conduct the third phase of trials.

But that’s not all Sanofi stands to gain if the Zika vaccine works. The Army intends to grant the company an exclusive license to sell the vaccine in the U.S., according to a notice filed in the Federal Register in December.

That arrangement has consumer watchdogs and U.S. lawmakers, including Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), raising the alarm. Millions of Americans of reproductive age could need this vaccine to protect against a virus that can spread through sex and cause major birth defects in the children of infected women. And Sanofi ― a company that has previously been accused of jacking up drug prices for American customers ― would be the one setting the cost of this much-anticipated vaccine.

Um, yeah, they are.

Prove it. Show me a case where the government and a university spent a couple of billion to get a drug from discovery, through trials and testing, to approval.
 

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