Zone1 Since BLM is it harder for the police to kill black people

[rightwinger]

Here is how democrats handle crime.

Attention:

criminals are allowed to rob your business of up to $1000.00 per visit. So don’t call the police. And if they assault you and you fight back you will be prosecuted.

If you carry personal items or put any in your car…expect to be robbed or run over in the streets for your shopping purchases…infact it would be better if you just shopped online..however there is no guarantee your items will make it to your destination…so ..oh well..

If after all this you managed to get a criminal arrested just know they will be released without bail.

Thank you for your time.

Doesn’t answer the question

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Mod edit: Diversion. Way off topic.

 

[BlueGin]

Doesn’t answer the question

Do you think BLM is right to protest police abuse of handcuffed prisoners?

Do you support Republicans calling the FBI Nazis and KGB?

BLM is a fraudulent organization designed for money laundering. Their “ protest” was never about police brutality. It was about civil unrest designed to get democrats
elected. And at the same time have Hollywood and big corporations dupe the public into donating to them and the DNC.

 

[rightwinger]

BLM is a fraudulent organization designed for money laundering. Their “ protest” was never about police brutality. It was about civil unrest designed to get democrats
elected. And at the same time have Hollywood and big corporations dupe the public into donating to them and the DNC.

It was repeatedly about police brutality not being prosecuted

 

[BlueGin]

It was repeatedly about police brutality not being prosecuted

No…it was not. It was a tool to get democrats elected period. BLM has done nothing for the black community. All they have done is buy themselves and their friends and family multi million dollar homes to party in. Hell..,they won’t even fess up as to where all the donated money went.

 

[JoeMoma]

Point is

BLM has made a difference
Police realize they are now accountable

Yes, they have caused police to back off resulting in thousands of more blacks being murdered each year. It's the Ferguson effect. BLM is a joke, a very bad joke.

 

[2aguy]

Doesn’t answer the question

Do you think BLM is right to protest police abuse of handcuffed prisoners?

Do you support Republicans calling the FBI Nazis and KGB?

XXXXX - Mod Edit -- unnecessarily inflammatory to play the Nazi card. 2aguy

Sure, as long as they stop burning, looting and murdering people in our cities, they have the same Right to Assemble for the redress of grievances as anyone else....but when they go out on the orders of the democrat party to loot, burn and murder....no.

 

[2aguy]

Ben Crump has just been on TV talking about this.
He traces the improvement back to the Trayvon Martin case and through George Floyds murder. It is a lot more difficult for the police to get away with it.

My belief is that it must have been well nigh impossible to get justice. We only have to look at the case of Ahmed Aubrey to see the extent of racist corruption still present.

Making a noise makes a difference.

Why the Black Lives Matter Movement Still Matters - Deadline News

If you had to make a list of some of the most important socio and political movements of the last decade, Black Lives Matter would undoubtedly be right at the top. They’ve been celebrated. They’ve been vilified. But one thing is for certain: they’ve made the type of impact that few other groups...

www.deadlinenews.co.uk

In just on democrat party controlled city....

African Americans represent less than 10% of Minnesota’s population, but are 76% of the state’s murderers and 65% of its murder victims. These facts make nonsense of complaints by Black Lives Matter activists, and liberals generally, that law enforcement unfairly targets blacks, or that blacks are “over-represented” in arrests or any other metric.

The Demographics of Crime

Minnesota's Bureau of Criminal Apprehension released its report on the state's 2021 crime statistics late Friday afternoon. My colleague Bill Glahn was one of the few who noticed. The BCA's numbers indicate that in 2021, homicides were up 72% over 2019, the state's last 'normal' year. Aggravated...

www.powerlineblog.com

By trying to destroy the police, instead of dealing with the actual problems.......problems created and sustained by the democrat party........blm and the democrat party have led to these deaths....

 

[Tommy Tainant]

In just on democrat party controlled city....

African Americans represent less than 10% of Minnesota’s population, but are 76% of the state’s murderers and 65% of its murder victims. These facts make nonsense of complaints by Black Lives Matter activists, and liberals generally, that law enforcement unfairly targets blacks, or that blacks are “over-represented” in arrests or any other metric.

The Demographics of Crime

Minnesota's Bureau of Criminal Apprehension released its report on the state's 2021 crime statistics late Friday afternoon. My colleague Bill Glahn was one of the few who noticed. The BCA's numbers indicate that in 2021, homicides were up 72% over 2019, the state's last 'normal' year. Aggravated...

www.powerlineblog.com

By trying to destroy the police, instead of dealing with the actual problems.......problems created and sustained by the democrat party........blm and the democrat party have led to these deaths....

You keep referring to skin colour as an indicator of criminality.
XXXXXX -- mod edit -- excessive to play the KLAN card. Especially aimed at another member.
Tommy Tainant

Might there be other factors at work here ?

 

[2aguy]

You keep referring to skin colour as an indicator of criminality.
That is patently not the case and would be laughed at outside a Klan meeting.
Might there be other factors at work here ?

Nope..... you brought up Black Lives Matter, a racist group that led false attacks against the police in this country based on the lie that police are targeting blacks for murder. I am pointing out that the racist group, black lives matter, by attacking the police, has led to thousands of more murders of young black men.....you don't want to acknowledge that truth......by attacking the police, people like you allow criminals to run free....and this leads to more death and pain for black communities.

 

[Riff Raff]

Ben Crump has just been on TV talking about this.
He traces the improvement back to the Trayvon Martin case and through George Floyds murder. It is a lot more difficult for the police to get away with it.

My belief is that it must have been well nigh impossible to get justice. We only have to look at the case of Ahmed Aubrey to see the extent of racist corruption still present.

Making a noise makes a difference.

Why the Black Lives Matter Movement Still Matters - Deadline News

If you had to make a list of some of the most important socio and political movements of the last decade, Black Lives Matter would undoubtedly be right at the top. They’ve been celebrated. They’ve been vilified. But one thing is for certain: they’ve made the type of impact that few other groups...

www.deadlinenews.co.uk

Neither the Trayvon Martin or George Floyd case involved racism by police. No evidence of that whatsoever.

Furthermore, police do not shoot black crime suspects because of their skin color. No evidence of that either.

There is evidence, however, that BLM, Ben Crump and their supporters have falsely maligned police and the great people of America, resulting in irreparable harm.

 

[Riff Raff]

You keep referring to skin colour as an indicator of criminality.
That is patently not the case and would be laughed at outside a Klan meeting.
Might there be other factors at work here ?

Statistical evidence and scientific studies prove a correlation between violent crime and race. Blacks commit violent crimes at six-times the rate of White people. That is an enormous difference between those races.

In my city, black males are just 13% of the population but commit 85% of homicides.

 

[flacaltenn]

Ben Crump has just been on TV talking about this.
He traces the improvement back to the Trayvon Martin case and through George Floyds murder. It is a lot more difficult for the police to get away with it.

My belief is that it must have been well nigh impossible to get justice. We only have to look at the case of Ahmed Aubrey to see the extent of racist corruption still present.

Making a noise makes a difference.

Why the Black Lives Matter Movement Still Matters - Deadline News

If you had to make a list of some of the most important socio and political movements of the last decade, Black Lives Matter would undoubtedly be right at the top. They’ve been celebrated. They’ve been vilified. But one thing is for certain: they’ve made the type of impact that few other groups...

www.deadlinenews.co.uk

This a short OPINION piece that is your link and it has no METRICS on PROVING there's been in change in police killings of ANYONE in the US. Doesn't that trigger a bit of critical thinking for you?

Numbers would be important. And ALSO EXTREMELY important would be the numbers on DEAD AND WOUNDED cops. Which also is a part of the equation.

And if you DID live here -- you'd be aware of the MIGHTY blowback from minority communities about LESS protection from crime and violence. The kind that CAN enable the loss of lives because massive CUTS to policing and denigration of their service with early retirements and TRANSFERS OUT of communities which supported the BLM "Defund the Police" movement which the DEMS are now FLEEING FROM in an election year and trying to look more like "law and order" hypocrites.

 

[flacaltenn]

Blacks who kill other blacks go to prison

RARELY.. Especially in the Big Blue cities. Chicago with it's massive black carnage has an ATROCIOUS "clearing rate" for those cases for example. Applies to MOST of the places where gangs are considered "exempt militias".

As 2021 Ends With One Of City's Highest Murder Rates In Years, Many Families Left Without Any Kind Of Justice

In 2021, the city recorded one of its highest murder rates in years. But Chicago Police are touting a higher-than-average clearance rate for murder cases.

www.cbsnews.com

In 2021, the city recorded one of its highest murder rates in years. But Chicago Police are touting a higher-than-average clearance rate for murder cases.

As CBS 2's Jackie Kostek reported Friday night, police said they have cleared 49.4 percent of homicides in 2021. But that still leaves hundreds of families to grieve the loss of their loved ones without any kind of justice.

But that's just the ability of cops and prosecutors to BRING CASES TO COURT. You have to look at the murder CONVICTION RATE to find HOW FEW of these murders get ANY JUSTICE. The following link says just TWO CONVICTIONS in the first 9 months of 2021.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/8/2/22559312/mass-shooting-victims-gun-violence-crime-cpd-police-department

Over 1,000 victims, 126 dead, just 2 convictions: 6 years of mass shootings in Chicago​

Despite the skyrocketing number of shootings wounding four or more people in the city, the Chicago Police Department’s chief of detectives said solving the cases isn’t prioritized over other shootings.​

By Tom Schuba and Andy Grimm

Aug 2, 2021, 4:04pm CDT

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Might there be other factors at work here ?

Most certainly are tommy, white liberals are playing the white community and black/minority communities against one another...I have been telling everyone this since I got here...minorities are a shield for white liberals.
Just look at any incident and notice who is not paying a price...white liberals

 

[Riff Raff]

"Hands up Don't Shoot" was a lie, that isn't racist, it's a fact.

Ah, yes, Ferguson, MO, home of strong-armed robber Michael Brown, Mr. "Hands Up, Don't Shoot." Except he never said those words. Those words were the invention of black racist am-bu-lance-chaser Ben Crump, racist black BLM agitators and racist national media megaphones, conspiring together to pull off their first big coordinated racist hoax.

While the black devils were whipping the nation into a frenzy with those magic words, "racist white cop" and "poor black victim" they spun stories so big "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" still rings in the outraged nation's ears today.

Of course, few heard the results of the local, state and federal investigations. After Brown committed a strong-armed robbery and assaulting the owner of a convenience store, he brazenly walked down the middle of a busy street.

A police car responding to the robbery but not yet knowing Brown was the robber, yelled through his car window for Brown to get on the sidewalk. Brown approached the car, leaned in the window then suddenly grabbed the officers gun from its holster. The officer's quick reaction prevented it's theft, so then Brown turned and started walking away.

The cop excited his vehicle and ordered Brown to stop. Continually, as Brown ignored the command and continued walking. The policeman gave Brown multiple warnings and orders to halt. Suddenly, Brown turned and charged at the officer at full speed. The cop gave more warnings then fired his gun to stop the attack.

All America knew was "racist white cop," "poor black victim" and "Hands Up, Don't Shoot." Violence in the streets. Searing hatred for the white policeman. Blaring from every TV in the country. The mold was set and would be repeated again and again at every opportunity, working the nation into a racist frenzy while the $millions rolled in.

 

[Riff Raff]

"Hands up Don't Shoot" was a lie, that isn't racist, it's a fact.

Ah, yes, Ferguson, MO, home of strong-armed robber Michael Brown, Mr. "Hands Up, Don't Shoot." Except he never said those words. Those words were the invention of black racist am-bu-lance-chaser Ben Crump, racist black BLM agitators and racist national media megaphones, conspiring together to pull off their first big coordinated racist hoax.

While the black devils were whipping the nation into a frenzy with those magic words, "racist white cop" and "poor black victim" they spun stories so big "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" still rings in the outraged nation's ears today.

Of course, few heard the results of the local, state and federal investigations. After Brown committed a strong-armed robbery and assaulted the owner of a convenience store, he brazenly walked down the middle of a busy street.

A police car responding to the robbery but not yet knowing Brown was the robber, yelled through his car window for Brown to get on the sidewalk. Brown approached the car, leaned in the window then suddenly tried to grab the officer's gun from its holster. The officers quick reaction wrestled the gun away from him, so then Brown turned and started walking away.

The cop excited his vehicle and ordered Brown to stop. Continually, as Brown ignored the commands and continued walking. The policeman gave Brown multiple warnings and orders to halt. Suddenly, Brown turned and charged at the officer at full speed. The cop gave more warnings until at the last moment he fired his gun to stop the attack.

All America knew was "racist white cop," "poor black victim" and "Hands up, Don't Shoot." Violence in the streets. Searing hatred for the policeman blaring from every TV in the country. The mold was set and would be repeated again and again at every opportunity, working the nation into an angry mob of heated protests and street violence while the $millions rolled in.

 

[rightwinger]

RARELY.. Especially in the Big Blue cities. Chicago with it's massive black carnage has an ATROCIOUS "clearing rate" for those cases for example. Applies to MOST of the places where gangs are considered "exempt militias".

As 2021 Ends With One Of City's Highest Murder Rates In Years, Many Families Left Without Any Kind Of Justice

In 2021, the city recorded one of its highest murder rates in years. But Chicago Police are touting a higher-than-average clearance rate for murder cases.

www.cbsnews.com

In 2021, the city recorded one of its highest murder rates in years. But Chicago Police are touting a higher-than-average clearance rate for murder cases.

As CBS 2's Jackie Kostek reported Friday night, police said they have cleared 49.4 percent of homicides in 2021. But that still leaves hundreds of families to grieve the loss of their loved ones without any kind of justice.

But that's just the ability of cops and prosecutors to BRING CASES TO COURT. You have to look at the murder CONVICTION RATE to find HOW FEW of these murders get ANY JUSTICE. The following link says just TWO CONVICTIONS in the first 9 months of 2021.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/8/2/22559312/mass-shooting-victims-gun-violence-crime-cpd-police-department

Over 1,000 victims, 126 dead, just 2 convictions: 6 years of mass shootings in Chicago​

Despite the skyrocketing number of shootings wounding four or more people in the city, the Chicago Police Department’s chief of detectives said solving the cases isn’t prioritized over other shootings.​

By Tom Schuba and Andy Grimm

Aug 2, 2021, 4:04pm CDT

What a ridiculous response
You should know better

We have 2.5 million in our prisons, a disproportional number are black. You implying that because many murders go unsolved proves blacks are not prosecuted is ridiculous

 

[Friends]

Crime rates changed dramatically across the United States in 2020. Most significantly, the murder rate — that is, the number of murders per 100,000 people — rose sharply, by nearly 30 percent. Assaults increased as well, with the rate of offenses rising by more than 10 percent. Both increases are part of a broader surge in gun violence. More than 75 percent of murders in 2020 were committed with a firearm, reaching a new high point, and cities that report data on shooting incidents, like New York, saw significant increases in this form of violence as well.

Murders rose in cities nationwide and jurisdictions of all types. Relative to 2019, the number of murders jumped by more than 30 percent in the largest cities and by 20 percent in places designated by the FBI as “suburban” — cities with fewer than 50,000 inhabitants that are within a Metropolitan Statistical Area. Murders rose by comparable levels in rural areas too — an important fact that is only now beginning to receive press attention...

According to the New York City Mayor’s Office of Criminal Justice, the number of shootings doubled in the neighborhood of East New York (from 51 to 102) and nearly tripled in Brownsville (from 34 to 96)...

murder rates in major cities continued to increase, but at a much slower rate than the 2019–2020 increase. The trend is especially pronounced in the five largest American cities...

gun assaults rose by 8 percent, and motor vehicle thefts continued their precipitous rise. Taken together, this information suggests that the divergence between property and violent crimes observed in 2020 — with violence rising even as other types of crime stabilized or declined — continued into 2021.

Myths and Realities: Understanding Recent Trends in Violent Crime

The recent rise in crime is extraordinarily complex. Policymakers and the public should not jump to conclusions or expect easy answers.

www.brennancenter.org

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This website tries to explain the rise in crime in ways that absolve Black Lives Matter, and efforts to defund and demoralize the police, but the facts speak for them selves.

 

[rightwinger]

Crime rates changed dramatically across the United States in 2020. Most significantly, the murder rate — that is, the number of murders per 100,000 people — rose sharply, by nearly 30 percent. Assaults increased as well, with the rate of offenses rising by more than 10 percent. Both increases are part of a broader surge in gun violence. More than 75 percent of murders in 2020 were committed with a firearm, reaching a new high point, and cities that report data on shooting incidents, like New York, saw significant increases in this form of violence as well.

Murders rose in cities nationwide and jurisdictions of all types. Relative to 2019, the number of murders jumped by more than 30 percent in the largest cities and by 20 percent in places designated by the FBI as “suburban” — cities with fewer than 50,000 inhabitants that are within a Metropolitan Statistical Area. Murders rose by comparable levels in rural areas too — an important fact that is only now beginning to receive press attention...

According to the New York City Mayor’s Office of Criminal Justice, the number of shootings doubled in the neighborhood of East New York (from 51 to 102) and nearly tripled in Brownsville (from 34 to 96)...

murder rates in major cities continued to increase, but at a much slower rate than the 2019–2020 increase. The trend is especially pronounced in the five largest American cities...

gun assaults rose by 8 percent, and motor vehicle thefts continued their precipitous rise. Taken together, this information suggests that the divergence between property and violent crimes observed in 2020 — with violence rising even as other types of crime stabilized or declined — continued into 2021.

Myths and Realities: Understanding Recent Trends in Violent Crime

The recent rise in crime is extraordinarily complex. Policymakers and the public should not jump to conclusions or expect easy answers.

www.brennancenter.org

--------------

This website tries to explain the rise in crime in ways that absolve Black Lives Matter, and efforts to defund and demoralize the police, but the facts speak for them selves.


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BLM is not protesting blacks being killed by whites

They are protesting unarmed blacks being killed by police and not being held accountable.

 

[Friends]

BLM is not protesting blacks being killed by whites

They are protesting unarmed blacks being killed by police and not being held accountable.

If black lives matter, why do so many black men kill other black men, as well as black women and black children? Why do so few black men marry the mothers of their children and raise those children properly?

Black Lives Matter is a shakedown organization that takes millions of dollars from gullible, virtue signaling whites, and spends the money buying mansions for themselves.