Silencing religious leaders with the tax code was never Constitutional...

[Oscar Wao]

WTF is "Judas law"? Are you trying to say "Jewish law"?

And yeah, if the preachers are able to start campaigning for their candidate from the pulpit, expect religion to creep into our government and take over.

"Judas" means Jew, so what's the problem?

Most church pastors avoid politics and the Bible because they want their sermons to be non-offensive to everyone, so there's won't ever be many pastors engaged in endorsing candidates, except in churches where the whole congregation is going to vote that way, anyway.

I'm sorry to hear the Free Speech terrifies you. You don't feel comfortable unless you're in chains.

No, churches avoid politics because the goal of the Church is to proclaim the Gospel of Christ, through the Word, absolution, and the sacraments.

 

[BulletProof]

No, churches avoid politics because the goal of the Church is to proclaim the Gospel of Christ, through the Word, absolution, and the sacraments.

Politics plays a role in the church's freedom to proclaim the gospel. So,what's your point.

Believe whatever stupid things you want. The primary reason churches stay out of politics is because they pander to the lowest common denominator. They don't want people leaving and finding another church over a disagreement with the pastor. It's the same reason they avoid much of the Bible and deliver worthless fluff sermons.

 

[ABikerSailor]

No, churches avoid politics because the goal of the Church is to proclaim the Gospel of Christ, through the Word, absolution, and the sacraments.

Politics plays a role in the church's freedom to proclaim the gospel. So,what's your point.

Believe whatever stupid things you want. The primary reason churches stay out of politics is because they pander to the lowest common denominator. They don't want people leaving and finding another church over a disagreement with the pastor. It's the same reason they avoid much of the Bible and deliver worthless fluff sermons.

Dunno what churches you are going to Butt Poof, but it's obvious that you've never been to a Southern country church.

 

[pismoe]

i think that FREE SPEECH from the Pulpit was fine before the imposition of the 'johnson amendment' and i think that FREE SPEECH from the Pulpit will be fine now Gents and Ladies .

 

[BulletProof]

Dunno what churches you are going to Butt Poof, but it's obvious that you've never been to a Southern country church.

The ones that drink real wine in communion and also teach that Jews are children of the devil? I'll concede my statement doesn't apply to those churches.

 

[daisiesRwild]

All churches are owned by the state now... therefore must do as they say and not God

 

[frigidweirdo]

....and now it will no longer be done.

For good or bad, we will now see the churches, synagogues and mosques take a more active role in promoting political candidates.

Wait, if they want to do politics, then they can pay tax the same as everyone else.

Go look at Northern Ireland and see what happens when religion takes center stage in politics.

 

[BulletProof]

All churches are owned by the state now... therefore must do as they say and not God

After looking at some of your posts, in case no one else tells you, you're a crazy shithead. The state has next to no control of the church in the west. Maybe you're posting from China?

 

[daisiesRwild]

All churches are owned by the state now... therefore must do as they say and not God

After looking at some of your posts, in case no one else tells you, you're a crazy shithead. The state has next to no control of the church in the west. Maybe you're posting from China?

listen one w/ the evil spirit... I have been researching for over 35 years... perhaps you should try it instead of having no mind of your own and just regurgitating the propaganda created to keep you dumbed down and asleep. You should be awake by now - wake up... do some research and do not call me a name again. go somewhere else

 

[task0778]

All churches are owned by the state now... therefore must do as they say and not God

After looking at some of your posts, in case no one else tells you, you're a crazy shithead. The state has next to no control of the church in the west. Maybe you're posting from China?

listen one w/ the evil spirit... I have been researching for over 35 years... perhaps you should try it instead of having no mind of your own and just regurgitating the propaganda created to keep you dumbed down and asleep. You should be awake by now - wake up... do some research and do not call me a name again. go somewhere else

OTOH, saying the state owns the churches is a bit out there, do you really think churches in this country have to follow gov't dictates rather than that of their God? I'd have to seriously doubt that. So, support your theory please, why do you say that?

 

[bodecea]

....and now it will no longer be done.

For good or bad, we will now see the churches, synagogues and mosques take a more active role in promoting political candidates.

Get rid of their tax exempt status...get rid of their special rights.

 

[task0778]

....and now it will no longer be done.

For good or bad, we will now see the churches, synagogues and mosques take a more active role in promoting political candidates.

Get rid of their tax exempt status...get rid of their special rights.

What special rights? Re the tax exempt status, I think that churches and other non-profit orgs do a lot of good in their communities and do it better than the federal gov't does.

 

[daisiesRwild]

All churches are owned by the state now... therefore must do as they say and not God

After looking at some of your posts, in case no one else tells you, you're a crazy shithead. The state has next to no control of the church in the west. Maybe you're posting from China?

listen one w/ the evil spirit... I have been researching for over 35 years... perhaps you should try it instead of having no mind of your own and just regurgitating the propaganda created to keep you dumbed down and asleep. You should be awake by now - wake up... do some research and do not call me a name again. go somewhere else

OTOH, saying the states own the churches is a bit out there, do you really think churches in this country have to follow gov't dictates rather than that of their God? I'd have to seriously doubt that. So, support your theory please, why do you say that?

I do not know how much you know about the real truth of this world When church and state are anything but separate

 

[daisiesRwild]

....and now it will no longer be done.

For good or bad, we will now see the churches, synagogues and mosques take a more active role in promoting political candidates.

Get rid of their tax exempt status...get rid of their special rights.

agreeeddddd - when push comes to shove The govt is going to pull rank on those Churches and make them give up thier members if there is ever martial law for example

 

[task0778]

All churches are owned by the state now... therefore must do as they say and not God

After looking at some of your posts, in case no one else tells you, you're a crazy shithead. The state has next to no control of the church in the west. Maybe you're posting from China?

listen one w/ the evil spirit... I have been researching for over 35 years... perhaps you should try it instead of having no mind of your own and just regurgitating the propaganda created to keep you dumbed down and asleep. You should be awake by now - wake up... do some research and do not call me a name again. go somewhere else

OTOH, saying the states own the churches is a bit out there, do you really think churches in this country have to follow gov't dictates rather than that of their God? I'd have to seriously doubt that. So, support your theory please, why do you say that?

I do not know how much you know about the real truth of this world When church and state are anything but separate

Your link is entirely about the Middle East, there is absolutely nothing in there about church and state in the US except to affirm that there is supposed to be a separation between church and state. Meaning no one religion should have sway over any other, and in this country that is still true.

 

[bodecea]

Will you be happy when the church of satan is in your childs school? Or islam is being taught to your child.

Again, this is not the topic of the thread.

It sounds like you think this thread is about choice in schools, but that's not what this thread is about.

This thread is about religious leaders having the freedom to support political candidates, without penalty from the tax code.

Which is wrong....special rights....no place for that here.

 

[bodecea]

Get ready for the Christian version of Sharia law to overtake the country.

They've tried a few times already...that clerk in Kentucky.....Roy Moore....

 

[task0778]

....and now it will no longer be done.

For good or bad, we will now see the churches, synagogues and mosques take a more active role in promoting political candidates.

Get rid of their tax exempt status...get rid of their special rights.

agreeeddddd - when push comes to shove The govt is going to pull rank on those Churches and make them give up thier members if there is ever martial law for example

Absolute and total BULLSHIT. Not in this country.

 

[bodecea]

Get ready for the Christian version of Sharia law to overtake the country.

Most Christians are more interested in helping Judases who impose Judas law, like Jewish judges who legislate the sodomizing of America. A real Christian wouldn't lie about Sharia law being imposed anywhere in America. A real Christian find anything offensive about most of Sharia law.

WTF is "Judas law"? Are you trying to say "Jewish law"?

And yeah, if the preachers are able to start campaigning for their candidate from the pulpit, expect religion to creep into our government and take over.

Actually, the opposite would end up happening...government creeping into religion.

 

[bodecea]

You don't know much about those of the Jewish faith or your own Bible for that matter. Judas refers to a disciple of Jesus who betrayed Him and turned Him over to the authorities.

And, how many Southern churches have you been to? Lots of them are not too shy about letting their congregation know how they feel about things, politics included.

I have more intelligence and knowledge in my pinky than you have in your whole extended family, so you should reconsider calling me ignorant. If Judas doesn't mean Jew, what does it mean? I don't think it's a coincidence that the only Jew among Jesus' apostles was the one who betrayed him. Nor, that it was the apostle with a name that means Jew who Jesus.

When someone has to declare how intelligent they are........................