Should Trump Officially Declare War On Iran??

[theHawk]

Good grief...You progressives let your fantasy world really get away from you....We are NOT in a war, declared, or otherwise, unless you want to just post lies.

So how does something Congress passed in 2002 give the President the right to do what he did 18 years later??

Or do you think a president can do whatever he wants when he wants??

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

The reason you dic suckers get so triggered over the war in Iraq isn't because you were against it...…

it is because you were wrong and hate having to admit that a "liberal" was right...…


and the same cheerleading you are doing now -- you will pretend to be against years later when the dust settles......now tell me how this drone strike is resulting in us pulling troops OUT OF IRAQ like Trump said he would??

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

 

[Polishprince]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

We aren't any more at war with the Axis of Evil than we were last week at this time.

Its my belief that the whacking of Soleimani has reduced tensions in the area and the possibility of war. between the Mullahs and America. Right now, they are shitting themselves in Tehran, they realize there is a new sheriff in town who isn't going to put up with their shit.

If I were advising Khamenei, I'd tell him to work hard to collude with Sleepy Joe to rig the upcoming election, not to fight a war he cannot win. Donald J. Trump is an Existential Threat to Islamonazi Terror, they can't risk angering him any more.

Would the "whacking" of one of generals result in eased tensions or would we see them as an act of war?

This American narcissism we have in the middle east is why we have been at war over there for almost 20 years...because we have this belief that if we do something, others are supposed to react to it in a way that we wouldn't ourselves.....

This is not going to lead to us leaving Iraq...because now we can continue to claim that our troops need to remain there indefinitely because of the "increased tensions" -- that your dumb ass just said eased....

I think what you are failing to realize Biff, is that Gen. Soleimani was one of the main instigators of Terrorism in the Middle East. He's the originator of a lot of their ideas like IED's and other strategeries of evil.

Capping his worthless behind might allow a Moderate general, someone who isn't as crazy to emerge and bring a measure of sanity into the Iran experience.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

So how does something Congress passed in 2002 give the President the right to do what he did 18 years later??

Or do you think a president can do whatever he wants when he wants??

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

The reason you dic suckers get so triggered over the war in Iraq isn't because you were against it...…

it is because you were wrong and hate having to admit that a "liberal" was right...…


and the same cheerleading you are doing now -- you will pretend to be against years later when the dust settles......now tell me how this drone strike is resulting in us pulling troops OUT OF IRAQ like Trump said he would??

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

We aren't any more at war with the Axis of Evil than we were last week at this time.

Its my belief that the whacking of Soleimani has reduced tensions in the area and the possibility of war. between the Mullahs and America. Right now, they are shitting themselves in Tehran, they realize there is a new sheriff in town who isn't going to put up with their shit.

If I were advising Khamenei, I'd tell him to work hard to collude with Sleepy Joe to rig the upcoming election, not to fight a war he cannot win. Donald J. Trump is an Existential Threat to Islamonazi Terror, they can't risk angering him any more.

Would the "whacking" of one of generals result in eased tensions or would we see them as an act of war?

This American narcissism we have in the middle east is why we have been at war over there for almost 20 years...because we have this belief that if we do something, others are supposed to react to it in a way that we wouldn't ourselves.....

This is not going to lead to us leaving Iraq...because now we can continue to claim that our troops need to remain there indefinitely because of the "increased tensions" -- that your dumb ass just said eased....

I think what you are failing to realize Biff, is that Gen. Soleimani was one of the main instigators of Terrorism in the Middle East. He's the originator of a lot of their ideas like IED's and other strategeries of evil.

Capping his worthless behind might allow a Moderate general, someone who isn't as crazy to emerge and bring a measure of sanity into the Iran experience.

You ever wonder why Iran was able to have such a strong proxy presence in Iraq after we invaded it??

If you buy into this Iraq invasion dumb shit -- then shouldn't Iran's ability to influence anything in that region be decreased??

However, we are still having embassy attacks in a country we claim to have liberated -- 18 years later....why are we still there?

 

[Polishprince]

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

The reason you dic suckers get so triggered over the war in Iraq isn't because you were against it...…

it is because you were wrong and hate having to admit that a "liberal" was right...…


and the same cheerleading you are doing now -- you will pretend to be against years later when the dust settles......now tell me how this drone strike is resulting in us pulling troops OUT OF IRAQ like Trump said he would??

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

I don't think there will be a war between America and Iran in 2020 at all.

Trump doesn't want it, and Khamenei REALLY doesn't want it. It makes no sense for the Iranian mullahs to start a war and incur that kind of expense in 2020, when if they can maneuver to get Sleepy Joe back in , they will start getting the pallets of cash back when the Deal is reinstituted.

 

[xband]

The War Powers Act keeps Trump in check.

 

[Likkmee]

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

The reason you dic suckers get so triggered over the war in Iraq isn't because you were against it...…

it is because you were wrong and hate having to admit that a "liberal" was right...…


and the same cheerleading you are doing now -- you will pretend to be against years later when the dust settles......now tell me how this drone strike is resulting in us pulling troops OUT OF IRAQ like Trump said he would??

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

Same reason as the NK DMZ, Germany( to breed them tinted), Japan,Guam, aaaaaaaa

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The reason you dic suckers get so triggered over the war in Iraq isn't because you were against it...…

it is because you were wrong and hate having to admit that a "liberal" was right...…


and the same cheerleading you are doing now -- you will pretend to be against years later when the dust settles......now tell me how this drone strike is resulting in us pulling troops OUT OF IRAQ like Trump said he would??

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

I don't think there will be a war between America and Iran in 2020 at all.

Trump doesn't want it, and Khamenei REALLY doesn't want it. It makes no sense for the Iranian mullahs to start a war and incur that kind of expense in 2020, when if they can maneuver to get Sleepy Joe back in , they will start getting the pallets of cash back when the Deal is reinstituted.

Lol @ war makes no sense for Iran....

A war made no sense for Saddam either -- but it didn't stop you or anyone else from being gung ho about going to war with them....believing he was behind 9/11 and believing he was going to conduct a nuclear strike against the US...

So I hope you folks truly learned a lesson from 18 years ago and you will push back when the rhetoric starts to ramp up......

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The War Powers Act keeps Trump in check.

Adorable...

 

[BWK]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

Trump started the escalation with Iran by doing away with the Iran deal because of Trump's ego. Now you dupes have to deal with being supporters of a guy who has proved over and over to be straight full of shit; Trump predicted Obama would attack Iran to 'get elected' Don't feel like a total idiot?

Only idiot in this exchange is you....

Now before you respond back to me -- go google the word "satire" --- then take a nap...

Yep, I deserved that. Wrong poster. Sorry!

 

[BWK]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

Good grief...You progressives let your fantasy world really get away from you....We are NOT in a war, declared, or otherwise, unless you want to just post lies.

So how does something Congress passed in 2002 give the President the right to do what he did 18 years later??

Or do you think a president can do whatever he wants when he wants??

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

This was meant for you. Trump predicted Obama would attack Iran to 'get elected' What right action was that? To be full of shit before Trump was an illegal president ranting about Obama going to war with Iran, or after? Remember when Trump was all for going in and bombing the shit out of them and taking their oil? What right action are you talking about? Trump has two contradictory views on the middle east. Staying out and going in. That dumb sob doesn't have a clue, and neither do you.

 

[j-mac]

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

The reason you dic suckers get so triggered over the war in Iraq isn't because you were against it...…

it is because you were wrong and hate having to admit that a "liberal" was right...…


and the same cheerleading you are doing now -- you will pretend to be against years later when the dust settles......now tell me how this drone strike is resulting in us pulling troops OUT OF IRAQ like Trump said he would??

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

Easy....The same reason we are in any country, to protect American interests.

 

[j-mac]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

Good grief...You progressives let your fantasy world really get away from you....We are NOT in a war, declared, or otherwise, unless you want to just post lies.

So how does something Congress passed in 2002 give the President the right to do what he did 18 years later??

Or do you think a president can do whatever he wants when he wants??

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

This was meant for you. Trump predicted Obama would attack Iran to 'get elected' What right action was that? To be full of shit before Trump was an illegal president ranting about Obama going to war with Iran, or after? Remember when Trump was all for going in and bombing the shit out of them and taking their oil? What right action are you talking about? Trump has two contradictory views on the middle east. Staying out and going in. That dumb sob doesn't have a clue, and neither do you.

LOL....I find it funny when progressives like you are so triggered by anyone who doesn't agree with you...

And what war are you speaking of? We aren't at war with Iran...It was a simple response for killing American's....

 

[BWK]

The reason you dic suckers get so triggered over the war in Iraq isn't because you were against it...…

it is because you were wrong and hate having to admit that a "liberal" was right...…


and the same cheerleading you are doing now -- you will pretend to be against years later when the dust settles......now tell me how this drone strike is resulting in us pulling troops OUT OF IRAQ like Trump said he would??

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

I don't think there will be a war between America and Iran in 2020 at all.

Trump doesn't want it, and Khamenei REALLY doesn't want it. It makes no sense for the Iranian mullahs to start a war and incur that kind of expense in 2020, when if they can maneuver to get Sleepy Joe back in , they will start getting the pallets of cash back when the Deal is reinstituted.

Too late, there already is. iran will retaliate and it will get our attention, all because of your "idiot in chief" who canceled a great deal with Iran.

You have to look to a Republican to fuck up good foreign policy. They were wrong in Iraq, and they were wrong to get rid of a deal that kept the peace. What a failure.

And by the way, tell Trump Rocket man says hello.

 

[Polishprince]

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

I don't think there will be a war between America and Iran in 2020 at all.

Trump doesn't want it, and Khamenei REALLY doesn't want it. It makes no sense for the Iranian mullahs to start a war and incur that kind of expense in 2020, when if they can maneuver to get Sleepy Joe back in , they will start getting the pallets of cash back when the Deal is reinstituted.

Lol @ war makes no sense for Iran....

A war made no sense for Saddam either -- but it didn't stop you or anyone else from being gung ho about going to war with them....believing he was behind 9/11 and believing he was going to conduct a nuclear strike against the US...

So I hope you folks truly learned a lesson from 18 years ago and you will push back when the rhetoric starts to ramp up......

But Trump is against war. Its the libs who would love to push America into an unpopular land war in Asia, but Trump is smart enough to avoid it. And the mullahs as well don't want it, I think they will stay on their best behavior.

 

[j-mac]

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

I don't think there will be a war between America and Iran in 2020 at all.

Trump doesn't want it, and Khamenei REALLY doesn't want it. It makes no sense for the Iranian mullahs to start a war and incur that kind of expense in 2020, when if they can maneuver to get Sleepy Joe back in , they will start getting the pallets of cash back when the Deal is reinstituted.

Too late, there already is. iran will retaliate and it will get our attention, all because of your "idiot in chief" who canceled a great deal with Iran.

You have to look to a Republican to fuck up good foreign policy. They were wrong in Iraq, and they were wrong to get rid of a deal that kept the peace. What a failure.

And by the way, tell Trump Rocket man says hello.

Good foreign policy?

I'm sorry, I learned as a child that you can't buy friends.

 

[Polishprince]

If the Iraqi government asks the US to pull out, and President Trump complies, you lefties will be screaming how he retreated and created a void in Iraq which will only lead to more war there.

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

I don't think there will be a war between America and Iran in 2020 at all.

Trump doesn't want it, and Khamenei REALLY doesn't want it. It makes no sense for the Iranian mullahs to start a war and incur that kind of expense in 2020, when if they can maneuver to get Sleepy Joe back in , they will start getting the pallets of cash back when the Deal is reinstituted.

Too late, there already is. iran will retaliate and it will get our attention, all because of your "idiot in chief" who canceled a great deal with Iran.

You have to look to a Republican to fuck up good foreign policy. They were wrong in Iraq, and they were wrong to get rid of a deal that kept the peace. What a failure.

And by the way, tell Trump Rocket man says hello.

Iran would be pretty freaking stupid to retaliate, BWK.

And that's why they won't do it IMHO. From their standpoint, if they just wait until this fall and Trump loses, they get their pallets of cash and their "Deal" back. A war against America puts that in jeopardy

 

[BWK]

The United States Is Now at War With Iran

As much as Trump campaigned on not getting us further entangled in endless wars in the Middle East; with no exit strategy in sight --- as much as Trump and his cult followers pretend that they were against the war in Iraq all along -- I find it ironic that their authorization for taking out the military leader of a sovereign nation is the same authorization that allowed Bush to invade Iraq 18 years ago.....

"The United States is now at war with Iran. You don’t deliberately kill someone like Soleimani unless you’re at war with his country, and even then, you want to think long and hard before you do, given the near-certainty of blowback. To convey a sense of Soleimani’s significance, it would be as if, during the Iraq war, the ayatollah had ordered the assassination of Gen. David Petraeus, Gen. Jim Mattis, the head of Special Operations Command, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff"

Now I can imagine if our Defense Secretary was killed in a drone strike by any country, especially a Middle Eastern country (except for Saudi Arabia) -- we will take that action as an act of war -- so we can't pretend to be naïve as to believe Iran wouldn't take this as an act of war...And if you say "well he killed our soldiers, we are already at war with Iran" -- then you should demanding that Trump go before Congress (and the American people) and seek an official declaration of war against Iran...

Soleimani was a bad guy is not a good enough reason for declaring war (and the new general will most likely be a bad guy too) -- just like Saddam was a bad guy was not a good enough reason for declaring war on Iraq...which is why he had to claim Iraq was behind 9/11, Iraq had nukes and there was a mushroom cloud waiting to happen in the US, blah blah blah....all bullshit.....

Which is why we still to this day haven't declared war on anyone, except this ambiguous non-entity known as the war on terror -- a convenient way to do anything you want to do as long as you claim its a war on terror....and this goes for Bush, this goes for Obama and this goes for Trump --- the guy who was supposed to be DIFFERENT from the rest of them.

Good grief...You progressives let your fantasy world really get away from you....We are NOT in a war, declared, or otherwise, unless you want to just post lies.

So how does something Congress passed in 2002 give the President the right to do what he did 18 years later??

Or do you think a president can do whatever he wants when he wants??

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

This was meant for you. Trump predicted Obama would attack Iran to 'get elected' What right action was that? To be full of shit before Trump was an illegal president ranting about Obama going to war with Iran, or after? Remember when Trump was all for going in and bombing the shit out of them and taking their oil? What right action are you talking about? Trump has two contradictory views on the middle east. Staying out and going in. That dumb sob doesn't have a clue, and neither do you.

LOL....I find it funny when progressives like you are so triggered by anyone who doesn't agree with you...

And what war are you speaking of? We aren't at war with Iran...It was a simple response for killing American's....

And what do you think their response is going to be to your response? And by the way, the soldiers who died were a result of wartime deaths. Not that this General didn't deserve to die, but how stupid do you have to be to cancel a good Iran deal, get impeached, and then go and take out the very General of Iran that we know will trigger a response? You can be stupid about it, because you're a dupe to Trump, but other people have more sense. Going after Iran like this was a distraction for the news cycle. I have news for you, it's a losing strategy for Trump. The majority want him removed and the majority feel there should be a real senate trial. There, so much for Trumps distraction; Most Americans believe Trump committed impeachable offense

 

[j-mac]

Good grief...You progressives let your fantasy world really get away from you....We are NOT in a war, declared, or otherwise, unless you want to just post lies.

So how does something Congress passed in 2002 give the President the right to do what he did 18 years later??

Or do you think a president can do whatever he wants when he wants??

What a dumb comment...You do realize that's like asking how something ratified in 1782 gives the President his powers today right?

Face it, you're just pissed that Trump took the right action.

This was meant for you. Trump predicted Obama would attack Iran to 'get elected' What right action was that? To be full of shit before Trump was an illegal president ranting about Obama going to war with Iran, or after? Remember when Trump was all for going in and bombing the shit out of them and taking their oil? What right action are you talking about? Trump has two contradictory views on the middle east. Staying out and going in. That dumb sob doesn't have a clue, and neither do you.

LOL....I find it funny when progressives like you are so triggered by anyone who doesn't agree with you...

And what war are you speaking of? We aren't at war with Iran...It was a simple response for killing American's....

And what do you think their response is going to be to your response? And by the way, the soldiers who died were a result of wartime deaths. Not that this General didn't deserve to die, but how stupid do you have to be to cancel a good Iran deal, get impeached, and then go and take out the very General of Iran that we know will trigger a response? You can be stupid about it, because you're a dupe to Trump, but other people have more sense. Going after Iran like this was a distraction for the news cycle. I have news for you, it's a losing strategy for Trump. The majority want him removed and the majority feel there should be a real senate trial. There, so much for Trumps distraction; Most Americans believe Trump committed impeachable offense

LOL....Iran will do nothing of consquence, and if they do, they will pay the price...As for the rest of your fantasy here, you need to stay on topic.

 

[BWK]

Obama pulled out a significant number of troops because the Iraqi government asked them to pull out.....how did you respond to that??

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...q-withdrawal-he-passionately-supported-to-say

Idiot, I was against the war in Iraq back in 2003...I was against it then for the same reason dic suckers like you claim to be against it now...why the fuck do you think I would change my position on that??

That’s how neocons acted yes. How did the leftwing media act when President Trump ordered a withdraw in Syria from the Turkish border? They howled it was the end of the world and we were “betraying” the Kurds.

I am not the left wing media...I want all of the troops out of the middle east...period...

I WAS AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ BACK IN 2003 -- back when the so-called mainstream media was cheerleading it.....back when the media offered no push back at all -- back when Rumsfeld was able to say "we will be there for a few weeks, a few months, but definitely not longer than that" -- and the media didn't push back at all...

And now Trump is claiming a war with Iran will go pretty quickly...based on what??

No one to this day can tell me why we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan after nearly 20 years without using the same talking points they used 20 years ago...which tells me us being there isn't fixing shit....

I don't think there will be a war between America and Iran in 2020 at all.

Trump doesn't want it, and Khamenei REALLY doesn't want it. It makes no sense for the Iranian mullahs to start a war and incur that kind of expense in 2020, when if they can maneuver to get Sleepy Joe back in , they will start getting the pallets of cash back when the Deal is reinstituted.

Too late, there already is. iran will retaliate and it will get our attention, all because of your "idiot in chief" who canceled a great deal with Iran.

You have to look to a Republican to fuck up good foreign policy. They were wrong in Iraq, and they were wrong to get rid of a deal that kept the peace. What a failure.

And by the way, tell Trump Rocket man says hello.

Iran would be pretty freaking stupid to retaliate, BWK.

And that's why they won't do it IMHO. From their standpoint, if they just wait until this fall and Trump loses, they get their pallets of cash and their "Deal" back. A war against America puts that in jeopardy

You know what, here's what I have to say about that, when you have got an "idiot in chief" like Trump contradicting himself the whole way, criticizing and being wrong about Obama, canceling out a great Iran deal that kept the peace, only to rattle their chain as a result of that horrible move by Trump, being wrong on every foreign policy decision, and getting impeached, Trump is desperate. Who knows what will happen. If Iran retaliates, Trump will just go and bomb the shit out of whoever and get their oil. It's a distraction to his horrible failures. Trump predicted Obama would attack Iran to 'get elected'